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Our Nation has a Great Deal to Learn from Phillip Butler about Morality, Law, and Torture

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As a patriot who fought and sacrificed for our country, I ask all Americans to stand up for what is civil, humane and right. If we don't demand accountability for the crimes that were committed in our name, then we as a nation will have effectively institutionalized the torture of the last eight years. Let's keep the promise for ourselves and all humanity, the promise that is our United States of America.

- Phillip Butler (8 Years as a POW)


United States Naval Academy graduate and Veterans for Peace member, Dr. Phillip Butler, said today that "civil liberties and human rights organizations around the country are calling for accountability for torture. I'm amazed and profoundly disappointed that this has apparently become necessary in our country."

Upon his graduation from the United States Naval Academy in 1961, Dr. Butler served 20 years as an active duty commissioned officer in the United States Navy. As a naval aviator he was shot down over North Vietnam and for almost eight years was incarcerated as a prisoner of war. During his distinguished career he was awarded two Silver Stars, two Legion of Merits, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Heart medals.


Remembering those horrific years as a POW, Dr. Butler said the he "and more than 90 percent of my fellow POWs were repeatedly tortured for the extortion of information to be used for political propaganda and sometimes just for retribution. Because the Vietnamese had not yet formally recognized any international treaties on treatment of prisoners - including the Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War or the United Nations' Convention Against Torture - we were not treated as POWs, but instead pronounced 'criminals.'"


During his captivity as a POW, Dr. Butler and his fellow POW's, he said, "were regularly subject to torture, harassment, malnutrition, isolation, lack of medical care, and other degradations during our captivity. I was tortured dozens of times during my captivity. I often thought of our Constitution and the higher purpose we served - a purpose that helped me resist beyond what I thought I'd ever be capable of. Ironically, we POWs received great moral and psychological strength during our incarceration, telling each other, 'Our country is civilized and would never knowingly treat people like this. Our country would never stoop to torture and the low level of treatment we were experiencing at the hands of our captors.'"

Speaking with pride, Dr. Butler said, "we felt we had the moral high ground and took great pride in being American, above such barbarity. Besides, we all knew from experience that torture is useless, because under torture we told our tormentors whatever we thought they wanted to hear. Whenever possible, we slipped in ridiculous statements like one I used in a torture-extracted 'confession,' that "only officers are allowed to use the swimming pool on the USS Midway.' Another friend wrote in a 'confession' that 'my commanding officer, Dick Tracy, ordered me to bomb schools and hospitals.' These are just two examples of the kind of culturally embedded nonsense people can expect to extract through torture."

Given Dr. Butler's experiences, as well as the current political debate over "enhanced interrogation techniques," and "stress positions" as not constituting torture, he says "if you don't think so, try going out on your driveway or sidewalk, without any clothes on, on a frigidly cold night. Kneel down on the concrete, holding your body erect with your arms extended above your head. In a very few minutes you will begin to feel real pain. Imagine several menacing tormentors hovering above you to ensure that you remain in that position. That's torture."


Addressing another popular argument being advance by those supporting the use of such techniques by the United States, Dr. Butler said that "argument attempts to qualify captives as POWs, or 'detainees' or, as the Bush administration referred to the detainees, 'enemy combatants.' Please - they are human beings. We are holding people in indeterminate isolation from families, Red Cross visits and requirements under international law and the Geneva Convention. From experience, I say this constitutes torture of the heart and soul."

Dr. Butler addressed what he views as another nonsensical argument used by some to justify torture "what if we have someone who has planted an atomic weapon in a major city and we want to find out where in time to stop it? ... Do we enact a special law that violates our Constitution, treaties and statutes for this preposterous eventuality? Do we seriously think we could extract 'where and when' from this individual anyway?"

Based upon his honorable service to this country, including almost eight years as a POW, Dr. Butler refuses to remain a silent participant in the public debate over these issues. "Will the American public demand that President Obama live up to his stated promise that 'no one is above the law?' Will we hold the new administration to the Constitution, treaties and other statutes prohibiting such cruel and unusual punishments and demand accountability for the shameful legacy of torture that has tarnished America's reputation over the last eight years?" said Dr. Butler.

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Lawrence J. Gist II is a dedicated pro bono attorney and counselor at law, adjunct professor of legal studies at Mount St. Mary's College in Los Angeles, CA, a member of the board of directors of the Institute of Indigenous Knowledges, and a veteran (more...)
 

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Thank you so much for telling us about Dr. Butler by Margaret Bassett on Thursday, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:41:21 PM
Torture by dick bureson on Friday, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:40:08 PM
Dr. Butler's TV Interview (now on youtube) by Lawrence Gist on Friday, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:28:24 PM
Here is some additional info regarding the youtube video by Lawrence Gist on Friday, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:30:19 PM

 

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