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Obama: No War Crimes Charges Against the War Criminals

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The news just keeps getting worse for those who have been expecting or hoping that Obama would make right that which has been so monstrously wrong. The following story is the latest evidence that what Dr. Philip Zimbardo observed about his famous Stanford Prison Experiment remains true: while not all guards in the experiment were sadistic in their treatment of the prisoners, not a single one of the "good guards" intervened on behalf of a prisoner against the "bad guards."

Failing to prosecute and hold accountable war criminals means that the Bush Regime's actions can be repeated in the future, whether under the Obama administration or by some future president. In other words, any tyrant can do anything he or she wants because the Bush Regime did it and got away with it.

Even if, for the sake of argument, Obama doesn't torture and doesn't spy upon all of us during his term(s), the failure to prosecute Bush et al for what they have done means that the only way to insure that these war crimes, crimes against humanity and breaches of the public trust and of the rule of law can be prevented in the future is by electing individuals who promise to refrain from doing these monstrous things. We can only count on their promise and their self-regulated behavior because the mechanisms - impeachment and prosecution - to ensure that illegal and outrageous behavior doesn't occur have been left to rust by the Democrats and mainstream media as curious historical relics.

The rule of law no longer applies if Bush et al are allowed to go away without being prosecuted. This is what Obama and his party have given us. Regardless of what they do, good or bad, this one failure to act represents a stain and shame with consequences impossible to overstate.

How many of us were holding our breath this last election, worried that yet another election might be outright stolen? Do you really want to go through that over and over again? Is that any way to handle crimes against humanity? Yet this is the only thing we can count on within the parameters of official politics.

How do you like the politics we're allowed to believe in now?



If Obama is allowed to do what his people are signaling that they intend to do this also means that horrid injustice and crimes will go unpunished, irrespective of the consequences down the road.

Unfortunately, this news is not surprising. It is entirely consistent with the stance that Obama has been taking since being a US Senator: when he had the chance, the legal and moral responsibility to stop the torture and spying and so on, he demurred.

There's a changing of the guard coming but the new guards are still guards.

Yes, Virginia, this is "change we can believe in."

Obama Advisers Say No Charges Likely Against Those Who Authorized Torture

Monday 17 November 2008

by: Lara Jakes Jordan, The Associated Press

Washington - Barack Obama's incoming administration is unlikely to bring criminal charges against government officials who authorized or engaged in harsh interrogations of suspected terrorists during the George W. Bush presidency. Obama, who has criticized the use of torture, is being urged by some constitutional scholars and human rights groups to investigate possible war crimes by the Bush administration.

Two Obama advisers said there's little - if any - chance that the incoming president's Justice Department will go after anyone involved in authorizing or carrying out interrogations that provoked worldwide outrage.

The advisers spoke on condition of anonymity because the plans are still tentative. A spokesman for Obama's transition team did not respond to requests for comment Monday.

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A website has been mentioned by Oh on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:54:30 AM
Here's that website by Cheryl Abraham on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:44:42 AM
Love me ...I'm a liberal by Paul Donovan on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:20:49 AM
He's No Liberal by Dr. Dennis Loo on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:05:47 AM
DR. LOO by WML on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:23:50 PM
Agree, with a different perspective by martinweiss on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:37:52 PM
During the entire '08 campaign, the Dems tried to pretend by Richard Mynick on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:18:02 AM
See my response below for one major issue with this... by Steven Leser on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:27:55 PM
Hear, Hear Richard! by Dr. Dennis Loo on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:40:20 AM
Obama's First Mistake! by Dennis Kaiser on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:26:36 AM
Managed Collapse by Susan Guest on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:19:21 PM
The finest agents of oppression. by John Hanks on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:25:42 PM
Try This Remedy -- We'll All Feel Better! by boomerang on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:40:17 PM
It's only War Crimes by Munich on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:48:10 PM
Obama is the next errand boy for the "bi-partisan" Empire by coyote on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:54:42 PM
Check out "Beyond Treason" by Nick van Nes on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:17:00 PM
Sounds to me... by William Whitten on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:47:18 PM
Really enjoying this discussion by martinweiss on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:22:21 PM
Excellent points, Martin by Bia Winter on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:18:35 PM
Give Obama a break? by Dr. Dennis Loo on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:17:04 PM
You Hit it Square in the Head amigo by Randje Mitchell on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:55:02 PM
Impeachment, Complicity & Ultra-Patriotism by dotmafia on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:37:34 PM
Déjà vu by Linda Carraway on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:54:13 PM
"Obama: No War Crimes Charges Against the War Criminals" by Keith Hupp on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:02:43 PM
we are the ignorant by martinweiss on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:57:59 PM
Let's not forget that by Kevin Gosztola on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:04:43 PM
No War Crimes Charges by Munich on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:18:57 PM
I Am Shocked and Amazed by Michael Cavlan on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:59:32 PM
It's why I supported Cindy by David Hastings on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:33:11 PM
I'm Looking forward to my New Bank Stock & Free Car!!! by boomerang on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 6:39:58 PM
What do you think humans do when all legal avenues are off by Brett Paatsch on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 6:58:37 PM
Drastic Measures by Bia Winter on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:30:20 PM
Putting Bush's hide on the wall has occurred to many I'm by Brett Paatsch on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:53:11 PM
I would make a distinction by Dr. Dennis Loo on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:01:57 AM
IF WE EXPORT IT -- IT WILL COME! by boomerang on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:20:14 PM
A flawed article based on a flawed article. by Steven Leser on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:53:51 PM
Actually, its even worse on consideration... by Steven Leser on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:09:41 PM
You don't know what you are talking about by Brett Paatsch on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:27:47 PM
I will answer as soon as you answer this question... by Steven Leser on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:59:44 PM
If anybody else and ESPECIALLY the author of the article by Brett Paatsch on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:15:37 AM
Brett by Dr. Dennis Loo on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:57:51 AM
you gotta be kidding ! by jersey girl on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:41:22 PM
Steve Leser by Dr. Dennis Loo on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:08:07 AM
I don't see the connection. by Steven Leser on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:36:54 AM
excellent point Dennis by jersey girl on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:51:32 PM
excellent point Dennis by jersey girl on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:53:31 PM
Mr. Leser by Kevin Gosztola on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:38:43 AM
Well, I'm glad you asked the question... by Steven Leser on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:07:29 AM
and by the way, any UN member state could request this... by Steven Leser on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:15:18 AM
A fair trial could not occur in the US by Richard Pietrasz on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:36:10 AM
It's only murder ... by Mr M on Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:29:21 AM
the real illusion by martinweiss on Friday, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:29:59 PM
one more thing by martinweiss on Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:33:02 PM

 

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