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June 18, 2008 at 22:21:16

Headlined on 6/18/08:
John Yoo, Totalitarian

by Paul Craig Roberts     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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John Yoo stands outside the Anglo-American legal tradition.  His views lead to self-incrimination wrung out of a victim by torture.  He believes a president of the US can initiate war, even on false pretenses, and then use the war he starts as cover for depriving US citizens of habeas corpus protection.  A US attorney general informed by Yoo's memos even went so far as to tell the Senate Judiciary Committee that the Constitution does not provide habeas corpus protection to US citizens.

Yoo's animosity to US civil liberties made him a logical choice for appointment to the Bush Regime's Department of Justice (sic), but his appointment as a law professor at the University of California, Berkeley, shatters that university's liberal image. 

Habeas corpus is a centuries-old British legal reform that stopped authorities from arbitrarily throwing a person into a dungeon and leaving him there forever without presenting charges in a court of law.  Without this protection, there can be no liberty.

Yoo is especially adamant that "enemy combatants" have no rights to challenge the legality of their detentions by US authorities before a federal judge. Yoo would have us believe that the detainees at Guantanamo, for example, are all terrorists who were attacking Americans.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

The question is whether any of the detainees are "enemy combatants."  Yoo would have it so because the president says it is so.  As the president has already decided, what is the sense of presenting evidence to a judge?  For Yoo, accusation by the executive branch is the determination of guilt.

But what we know about the detainees is that many are hapless individuals who were captured by war lords and sold to the Americans for the bounty that the US government offered for "terrorists."  

Some of the other detainees could be Taliban who were engaged in an Afghan civil war that had nothing whatsoever to do with the US.  The Taliban were not fighting the US until the US invaded Afghanistan and began attacking the Taliban.  This would make Taliban detainees prisoners of war captured by invading US troops.  How POWs can be tortured, denied Geneva Conventions protections, and tried by military tribunals without the US government being in violation of US and international law is inexplicable.

Suppose you were a traveling businessman grabbed by a tribe and sold to the Americans.  Would you consider it just to be detained in Gitmo, undergoing whatever abuse is dished out, for 5 or 6 years of your life, or forever, without family knowing what has become of you?

Perhaps the greatest injustice was done to John Walker Lindh, an American citizen who, like Americans of a previous generation who fought in the Spanish Civil War, was fighting for the Taliban in the Afghan civil war against the Northern Alliance.  Suddenly the Americans entered the Afghan civil war on the side of the Northern Alliance.  Lindh was captured and sentenced to 20 years in prison.  

This kind of punishment is a new form of tyranny.  It is not law, and it is not justice.  

Lindh had no opportunity to withdraw once the US entered on the opposite side. The only point of treating Lindh as if he were some dangerous traitor was to demonstrate that American citizens can be treated to a Kafka-type experience and have the American public accept it.

Yoo stands for the maximum amount of injustice, illegality and unconstitutionality that can be committed in the name of the national security state.

No American security was at stake in Afghanistan or in Iraq, and none is at stake in Iran today.  The Bush Regime may be creating security problems for Americans in the future by fomenting hatred of Americans among Muslims.  This security problem is insignificant compared to the threat to our liberty and freedom posed by John Yoo and his Republican Federalist Society colleagues who are committed to tyranny in the name of "energy in the executive."

Writing on the Wall Street Journal editorial page on June 17, Yoo denounced the five Supreme Court justices who defended the US Constitution against arbitrary "energy in the executive." 

Yoo believes that the Constitution and liberty rank below "the nation's security."  Fortunately, Yoo wrote, a fix is at hand.  "The advancing age of several justices" means that President McCain can give us more judges like Roberts (no relation) and Alito who will make certain that mere civil liberties don't get in the way of arbitrary executive power justified by national security.

In a Yoo-McCain regime, the terrorists you will have to fear are those in your own government, against whom you will have no protection whatsoever.  

 

Paul Craig Roberts, a former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, has held numerous academic appointments. He has been reporting shocking cases of prosecutorial abuse for two decades. A new edition of his book, The Tyranny of Good Intentions, co-authored with Lawrence Stratton, a documented account of how Americans lost the protection of law, was published by Random House in March, 2008.

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Mark SashineA writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

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Not to sound as a bigot

but I want to mention that Yoo demonstrates a very interesting phenomena: a  direct stereotyping of the US society by the Chinese descendants ( please, I again do not mean to generalise but this phenomena exists; I know that being an immigrant myself). Many of those people  really do not appreciate or understand how the system here works and  consider it all as some kind of a game of power lubricated by hypocrisy. They think that they just need to find a  master to serve.  Yoo is so vehement because he  himself considers his behavior quite normal. It corresponds to his model of success. He thinks ALL people here are like him only they exercise hypocrisy.  And he is not totally wrong. He does not care for anyone or anything.  Again, such person is extremely  harmful to society, more harmful than even open enemy.  Mr. Yoo should be disbarred.

by Mark Sashine (47 articles, 19 quicklinks, 235 diaries, 3360 comments) on Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 2:41:59 PM
 


Student of history, religion, exoteric and esoteric, the Humanities in general and advocate for peace, justice and the unity of humankind, not through force, but through self-realization and mutual respect.
Mac McKinneyStudent of history, religion, exoteric and esoteric, the Humanities in general and advocate for peace, justice and the unity of humankind, not through force, but through self-realization and mutual respect.

Yoo's Views Welcome in Red China

Yoo excretes a totalitarian philosophy more akin to the Chinese Communists and the Burmese Junta then to a constitutional republic. He belongs in prison or on the gallows just as surely as the architects of the Third Reich did, for he has helped enable what many call the Fourth Reich. That UC Berkeley carries him as a professor is disgusting beyond belief and shows what cowards the Regents and Chancellor of the University of California are. What little, little craven men.

by Mac McKinney (42 articles, 62 quicklinks, 147 diaries, 985 comments) on Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 3:55:40 PM
 


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PutnikAn auto-didact with a bent for comment.

Amen!

Mark,

Just a minor correction, to the best of my knowledge, Yoo is a Korean of Chinese extraction, born in Seoul.

However, I most vehemently agree with you that Yoo should be 1) removed from his teaching post at UC Berkeley (where he teaches Constitutional Law!), 2) immediately disbarred for his demonstrated ignorance of the very Constitution he is supposed to be teaching, 3) taken immediately to the Hague for trial at the ICC for war crimes (after all, we tried Nazi lawyers and judges for their purposeful misapplication of legal standards to support the Nazi regime).

I know, it is never going to happen, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't!

by Putnik (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 28 comments) on Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 5:21:44 PM
 


A writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

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Mark SashineA writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

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Does not matter

I sincerely don't care. Again, It is not that I want to smear the Asian immigrants. But I do know that especially among those but also among other ones from the totalitarian countries there is a tendency of ' just figuring out who is in charge and follow them'. It has nothing to do with ideals. But it does have everything to do with the skills. Such person, offering his/her services to the evil brings his 'evil' with him as a bonus.

 

That simple 

by Mark Sashine (47 articles, 19 quicklinks, 235 diaries, 3360 comments) on Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 7:35:12 PM
 


I think that all people must be held accountable for their actions under the law. Everyone must be treated the same under International Law, National Laws, and Local Laws, NO EXCEPTIONS! ----- Let only God enforce the laws created by God and let Humans only enforce the laws created by Humans. ----- www.CitizenAmendments.org ----- I support the Mike Gravel National Initiative for Democracy (WWW.NI4D.US) -----
Anton GrambihlerI think that all people must be held accountable for their actions under the law. Everyone must be treated the same under International Law, National Laws, and Local Laws, NO EXCEPTIONS! ----- Let only God enforce the laws created by God and let Humans only enforce the laws created by Humans. ----- www.CitizenAmendments.org ----- I support the Mike Gravel National Initiative for Democracy (WWW.NI4D.US) -----

NO immigrant Citizen need apply

All people in the United States government whether elected, appointed, hired, or part of a study group or think tank which affects or attempts to affect United States Policy must be 100% Citizens of the United States, are not political refuges or the children of political refuges.

Anyone who has a dual Citizenship, are Political immigrates, or the Children of Political Immigrates are unlikely to always represent the best interests of the United States. Who were the advisors to the President that pushed for the invasion of Iraq? Who were the advisors to the Senators who did not read the reports about Iraq, but relied on their trusted advisors? Who were the advisors that thought torture was OK?

 

by Anton Grambihler (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 263 comments) on Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 11:25:00 PM
 


A writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

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Mark SashineA writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

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Oh, folks

I was very careful and still I brought out the ' Anglo- Saxon' invention of civil liberties and ' No immigrants should apply'. That was nott my intention.   I could successfully argue, for instance that, say  the  Russian Orthodox Church was the promoter of the  humility  of the rulers and that is something they never had in the West. But  this all is  not about that.  Immigrants are different, I am a Russian immigrant and 90% of us are pro- Bushists but what would you do with me?  Ban me too? The origin does not guarantee that this particular person has  or has not  a certain dark side.  It does have a legacy, though and that  is the legacy I pointed at. But  the scrutiny process when people are  hired for such positions must include the  certain checking of the individual's perception of what the freedom is.  That is not the issue of the  people to be hired- it is the issue of the system. And I can assure you- if the rulers wanted to  they would be able to hire the  most free- minded, the most honest and  the most skillfull and those could be of all origins because   as evil is universal, so is good. Only you have to want to find it.

by Mark Sashine (47 articles, 19 quicklinks, 235 diaries, 3360 comments) on Friday, June 20, 2008 at 8:06:33 AM
 


I live on an island off the coast of Maine. Political junkie of liberal persuasion.
I have long been a registered Independent and now am a member of the Maine Green Independent Party.

Widower, grandfather of two, retired.

Jack HarringtonI live on an island off the coast of Maine. Political junkie of liberal persuasion.
I have long been a registered Independent and now am a member of the Maine Green Independent Party.

Widower, grandfather of two, retired.

It is not who he is or where he is from

that matters.  What matters is what he has been able to emplace, what he has destroyed in the process. He is an authoritarian, plain and simple. John Dean's book "Conservatives Without A Conscience" describes people like him to a "T".

We have allowed people who look to a system of strong man rule to dominate in our government. We protest, but do not effectively challenge. And we are, because of the unConstitutional rubbish people like Yoo are putting out there, rapidly losing our ability to respond effectively. With each success, they grew bolder and bolder, controlling the courts, intimidating Congress, setting horrendous and horrific policy, establishing police state tactics and dictatorial rule...

Yoo, striped to essentials, is an authoritarian and totalitarian. Not American traits or characteristics. We need to excise the Yoo implants into our governmental rules, cleanse the mess he has helped create, and restore our integrity. 

by Jack Harrington (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 274 comments) on Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 1:01:20 PM
 

 

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