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It's not a matter of giving Obama a chance. It's a matter of giving LIBERALS a chance.

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Hmmm, doesn't look good, does it?  Obama's first pick (chief of staff) is Rahm Israel Emanuel, arguably the most important position on his "team" considering Emanuel's power to decide all my himself who Obama gets to talk to or not -- among other powers too numerous to mention.  Emanuel's conservative background is to the right of most Republicans.

Emanuel recently came out with the Palinesque pronouncement that the Democratic Party doesn't "have" a base."

Oh no, tell me it ain't so.  This is pure, 100%, undiluted Clinton anti-liberalism.  This is the DLC, these are the "centrists", and this is status quoism to the max (and please note that status quoism is basically a synonym of fascism).

Thus, we must NEVER forget that 2008 "centrists" were about three standard deviations to the right of the mean eight years ago.  So translation:  year 2008 "centrist" =  year 2000 extreme right wing.

And how did this slight of hand happen?  Well, it came from the COMBINED efforts of DLC/Clinton types and eight years of propaganda from George W. Bush.  In other words, when it comes to defining a political stance as centrist, that means (a.) in reality, that stance is very right wing, and (2.) this slight of hand was created by Bush/Clinton (two sides of the same coin) when it comes to declaring total war on liberals.

Indeed, IF we had a two party system it would be between liberals and progressives VS DLC centrists, Republicans, and elites.  In short the pseudo "centrists" are MUCH more lined up with fascist (remember, ZERO CHANGE, status quo people) Republicans.  However this is merely a symptom, because the real reason fascist centrists are virulently anti progressive is became they know the ONLY political force in this country that could drag down the elites (even if just a little) are passionate progressives. 

OK, does this mean Obama's victory was a non event?  Beats me.  Time will tell, but so far Obama certainly seems to be sucking up to the DLC and that is the kiss of death because they are the closet fascists of the Democratic Party.  Need an example?  Nancy Pelosi and nearly the entire 2006 dem congress -- that congress of traitors.

So, the groom stalks out even before the honeymoon starts.  Forget the progressives and liberals who (a.) got Obama into the primaries in the first place, and (b.) who were the core infrastructure of his election in 2008.

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I wonder what high moral/rational progressive issues Emanuel is going to try to trash?  What do you bet he's going to be 100% against diplomacy with ANYONE, since this guy’s past is more militant than most right wing pugs? He’s also probably going to try to bury any kind of "accountability" for the last eight years.  After all, since the DLC dems have been pigging out at the same elite-provided hog trough as the pugs, why would he want to bite the hand that feeds these gutless, greedy, Judas (alleged) Democrats?

So what about Obama's future appointments?  You know, it just could be he won't appoint EVEN ONE patriotic progressive. He certainly won't if he listens to his chief of staff who has magically explained away the realty base who supported and elected Obama.

In a nutshell, what we're looking at is the real possibility (probability?) that this is not going to be an Obama Administration, but an Obama/Cliinton (or Clinton/Obama) Administration.

But why are DLC/Clinton types so militantly anti-progressive?  We’re used to being trashed by fascist Republicans, but not by alleged Democrats.  Well, probably most of it goes back the fact that virulently status quo people are, by definition, fascists.  So, Rahm Israel Emanuel hates progressives because he's a textbook fascist Democrat, and fascist Republicans = fascist Democrats.  Samo, samo.

So now we see more than ever that the ONLY two party system in America are progressives and liberals VS dem/pug fascists.  Of course we already knew this during the 2006 "dem" congress which dutifully kept nearly all of their heads where the sun doesn't shine in George W. Bush (Nancy Pelosi was a veritable Bush homunculus).

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So, to rephrase the question, why are "fascists" (DLC or RNC) such mortal enemies of progressives?  More specifically, why are Emanuel and Clinton such mortal enemies of progressives? 

Almost certainly, it all goes back to the elites combined with militant religious fanatics.  The fanatics are terrified of any challenge (e.g., science) to their Palin/pamphlet version of life (like the Armageddon loony tunes that the world is going to go boom any day now). And, tragically, nearly all that passes for political fascism is now totally contaminated with murder-in-the-name of-God mental illness.

However, almost certainly the ultimate big picture of America (and the world) is still the Have and Have Not horror.  And fascism (dem, pug or otherwise) is merely the police force that defends a given Dictatorship of the Rich.

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