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June 24, 2008 at 05:33:27
Promoted to Headline (H2) on 6/24/08: by Susan Allen Page 1 of 1 page(s) |
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Congress lacks Authorization to Grant Telecoms Selective Immunity Article 4, Section. 2. Clause 1: The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. All citizens are entitled to the same immunities. Telecoms are not entitled to privileged immunities. War on Terror is a Fraud Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15 states: The Congress shall have Power to provide for calling forth the Militia to suppress an insurrection or to repel an invasion. Article 1, Section 9 states:No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; Terror is not a crime. It has no name, no face, and cannot be caught and jailed. It's illegal to fund the war on Terror because terror is an emotion and not a tangible thing. Given terror is invisible, it cannot be fought. A war against something invisible is absurd. Fourth Amendment Prohibits Warrantless Searches
The online legal Dictionary states:"Federal and state criminal statutes provide for the punishment of persons convicted of fraudulent activity. Interstate fraud and fraud on the federal government are singled out for federal prosecution. The most common federal fraud charges are for mail and wire fraud. Mail and wire fraud statutes criminalize the use of the mails or interstate wires to create or further a scheme to defraud (18 U.S.C.A. §§ 1341, 1342). http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fraud
The Telecoms violated U.S. citizens' Fourth Amendment rights. Under the law, they must be prosecuted under the law. Failure to prosecute criminals is condusive of anarchy. U.S. citizens are not paying taxes to support anarchy. A Republican Form of GovernmentArticle 4, Section. 4 states: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; The Telecoms engaged in wire tapping while U.S. citizens talked on the phone. President Nixon was impeached for this.
President Bush and Congress have no authority under the law to amend the Constitution without State ratification. Wiretapping, without approval through three-fourths state ratification is therefore illegal. Ex Post Facto laws are illegalArticle 1, Section 9, Clause 3 states: No ex post facto Law shall be passed.What this means is, what is illegal cannot be made legal retroactively. Voting to grant immunity to the Telecoms for spying on Americans is therefore an illegal act.
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Immunity or impunity?
The NSA warrantless eavesdropping program has already been ruled in violation of FISA by a federal court. Then suddenly, no one was prosecuted for it. Articles of Impeachment were filed and it didn't even make the evening news. Who is supposed to be enforcing the law? by Gustav Wynn (77 articles, 65 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 422 comments [34 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:57:15 AM
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Why are so many elected
who don't believe in the Bill of Rights and happily break their oath to protect and defend the Consitution?? by Laudyms (0 articles, 1142 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 708 comments [138 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:22:28 PM
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Anyone voting for this "compromise"
is aiding and abetting crimes against the constitution, (fourth amendment), and is therefore guilty of treason. I really believe this and I believe that no Bush democrat should be elected or re-elected. This includes anyone who votes 'yes' on this bill or does not join in on a filibuster. This is just one crime among many. We need impeachment to happen now! by Cheryl Abraham (13 articles, 2 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 207 comments) on Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:40:44 PM
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SUBMITTED WITH RESPECT
I agree philosophically with much of what you have written, but I think you have made some factual errors that should be addressed. Although the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution prohibits searches and seizures without "probable cause", searches and seizures without warrants are allowed if they are considered to be reasonable (e.g., a police officer who apprehends a man fleeing from a bank robbery). In the case of KATZ v. UNITED STATES (1967), the Supreme Court stated: "The Government's eavesdropping activities violated the privacy upon which petitioner justifiably relied while using the telephone booth and thus constituted a 'search and seizure' within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment." As specified by the Fourth Amendment, the government must have some reasonable basis for directing a search at a particular target. However, there is a lot of evidence that our government is engaged in electronic surveillance of all communications entering the United States without consideration of whether probable cause exists for such surveillance. by Blaine Kinsey (12 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 181 comments [80 recommended, 8 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:00:19 PM
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Reply: Reasonable=with reason=with probable cause
According to Article VI of the Constitution, laws must be made in pursuance of the Constitution. Article V states that this Constitution shall be valid to all intents and purposes. Reasonable = means with probable cause. You said: "searches and seizures without warrants are allowed if they are considered to be reasonable (e.g., a police officer who apprehends a man fleeing from a bank robbery). When justices use that argument, they seem to be using the definition of reasonable as if it means appropriate. However, the word, "reasonable" is derived from the word, "reason." "Reason," within this context, is synonomous with cause. A judge needs to show cause, (give a reason) for granting a warrant. All warrantless searches are therefore unconstitutional. According to Article VI of the Constitution, laws that conflict with the Constitutional aren't valid. Article V states that this Constitution shall be valid to all intents and purposes. by Susan Allen (18 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 23 comments) on Saturday, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:07:45 AM
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and I will add...
If this spying, surveillance and easedropping was so "legal and ethical", why did Qwest bow out and NOT do it? Certainly when Qwest stated no, that it was illegal and against the constitution, the other companies weren't so ignorant that they did NOT know this. Are we to believe that Qwest has constitutional geniuses working within their corporation but AT&T, Verizon et al. just didn't know the 4rth Amednment existed? I believe it's the LOBBYING AND THE CAMPAIGN donations that are giving these telecoms immunity, not facts and legalities. You can bet your ass they surveillanced every single one of us. I know AOL did my email, and believe they still do. They don't target evil commie satan worshippers. They target American citizens that object to the War in Iraq, the Bush Administration lies and deceit, and citizens that belong to such horrid groups like Peace activists, Peta, Greenpeace, environmental groups and other oh so bad people. Yet they leave the KKK alone. It's time to vote 3rd party and give both parties a run for the cliff. by shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 592 comments [98 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:55:00 PM
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WE GET THE PICTURE. SMILE AT THE FIRING SQUAD.
We are on our own. We are orphans in the storm. Some will survive, probably the ones with some means and no gumption. Heil Dubya sounds good for an Emperor. Now go back to sleep and have happy dreams. The Homeland Gestapo will show you where to put your personal belongings before the shower. by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:45:27 AM
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Here's an action strategy which I suggest:
Let's all take up our pens, do our homework, and expose the voting record of our local Congressperson who voted for this. And urge readers to vote them out of office, and to spread word to that effect. Shut up Wolfie. The dogs are barking because you are riding. We don' t need negativity and discouragement, and you know it too. This is deliberate work on your part and you are A-moral, not immoral. Ship out or shape up! That is what I would say if I was Rob Kall and this was my forum. In fact, I would have booted you off long ago. Get lost! by Kathryn Smith (110 articles, 2 quicklinks, 43 diaries, 542 comments [23 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:10:22 AM
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Reply: I'll SECOND THAT!
Thanks for stepping up! The trivial BS that canine posts is not useful in any way AND it's not even amusing either! Thanks for speaking out. by mrk * (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 312 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:03:38 AM
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Reply: BOW WOW.
If you are referring to this mangy mutt, I take no offense. I wish only to stir your emotions, which I seemed to have done. Now tell me who do I write to , or post to, or cry to, or talk to, or scream to, or get anything of import from. You want to talk a good game, then what is your strategy in one concise paragraph that is going to be taken seriously by a non-nerd unlike me. Bring it on! Or just shut up. by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:58:31 AM
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Reply: Strategy
The stragegy is simple. Compare legislative action in Congressional Record with Constitutional law. Expose law-breaking legislators in writing to their main constituent voting bace. Under Constitutional law, we are Sovereign Kings and Queens and it's time we started acting like Kings and Queens. Since when do Kings and Queens of Europe pay their subjects taxes? It's absurd. We do not have to pay income taxes. Paying anything but sales taxes to the Federal government is illegal. by Susan Allen (18 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 23 comments) on Wednesday, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:32:09 PM
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