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FISA - Obama can choose to lose the War, but still fight the Battle

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I wrote a heartfelt letter to Barack Obama last night.

In my letter, I urged Barack to fight to remove the Immunity Provision for the Telecom from the bill in question as he has promised he would. I also urged that in failing to do such, he should vote against the bill.

It is clear to me that barring a miracle, Barack most likely will not be able to mobilize enough votes to strip the provision, and in addition, he will not be able to stop the bill from becoming law. In his voting NO (which is what most of us on the Left wish for), the media will have a field day in describing his first post-Nominee battle and how he lost it. He will be slandered as "ineffective". Couple that with his less than stellar fundraising May numbers, and the attacks that he flip-flopped on Public financing, the media will get their wish; a bludgeon to hammer Obama over the head for as long as they so determine.

As such time, the Republicans will start making their commercial portraying Barack Obama as weak on National Security. They will point to his "pre 2001" mentality, and how enabling terrorists is the reason that he should not be elected. The media will go with that, removing all nuances of the issue (as they always do), and allow the "Bumper Sticker" slogan aimed at Democrats, i.e., they are weak on NS, to rule the airwaves. Democrats who vote for the FISA bill will attempt to distance themselves from Senator Obama. His statement from yesterday will be jutapoxed against his "NO" vote and he will be portrayed as a Flip-Flopper, because the RNC with the assistance of the Media can. Obama will have no explaination for it other than saying that doing what was right won over political pragmatism.


The bill will be signed by George Bush who will call it a victory against Obama and the liberals, and a win for Bush/McCain.

The LIV (low information voters) will downgrade Obama for this action, without them truly understanding the whys and hows of it all. They will be forced to rely on the corporate media to explain it to them. The media will oblige.

Obama's lead against McCain will shrink and he will get a few points behind McCain, in particular, in some of the swing states. Whether the attack on this issue will cost him and us longer than a couple of weeks or throughout the general election is an unknown.

Obama's defense will come in how he chooses to articulate his decision and how he can convey such to the American people. In voting NO on the FISA bill, this will be his only tool. The media may or may not air his rebuttals, because they won't have to if they don't want to.

That leaves the progressive Democratic base, who then will be content in knowing that Obama stood for something, no matter the political cost.


If he so chooses to act as I have outlined, I will offer him solace that in him doing what is right, even if it meant losing, he will have stayed true to himself and to his base.....which in reality is the only way that he can win with us, even if he loses.

We are all aware that with running a Senator, comes the consequences of vunerabilities called votes. We are willing to accept this because standing up for the 4th amendment means more to us than winning an election. It is to some degree a choice, and we are making it.

Some will see the catch 22; others won't care what the catch is.

Whatever Obama chooses to do,, I will respect him for it....because, you see, he cannot win with his base unless he loses that battle (and he will) .....and that is something he will come to understand once he has read the many letters sent to him.

I urge Obama’s base to write to our own senators and to Newspapers in the LTTE format and I am serious about this. If nothing else, we need to provide the support Barack will need prior to the fact. We need to make his fall as cushioned as possible. If we are not willing to do this, then we cannot speak as to what we expect from him. We have less than a week to do what we can to turn the political climate on this issue that he, and by extension us, will have to content against.

The Right have been listening to Left’s discontent of Barack since Friday, and they are strategizing....so don't expect turning the tide to be easily doable.

We are the ones that we have been waiting for, and I don't believe that Barack Obama can win or lose this election on his own. We can bitch and moan about what he might or might not do and become spectators to the spectacle, OR we can take smart action to enable Sen. Obama to make the right decision. It is work for us to get this done, but Barack has warned again and again that Hope and Change aren’t easy for anyone of us.

 

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Frenchie was born in Paris, France. She Currently lives in the California Bay Area and has been self employed as an accountant for the past 26 years. Frenchie has been married for 24 years and has raised two daughters, one in her last year of high (more...)
 

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Obama has already sold out on the FISA bill.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/20/obama_supports_fisa_legislatio.html

Sorry to puncture your illusions in him, but he's just another Dem Party phony. Did you really believe he was going to stick up for the 4th Amendment?

by Richard Mynick (2 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 1552 comments [255 recommended, 5 rejected]) on Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:46:00 PM

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Reply: Well I was aware that I had voted for a politician.

and I also knew that there was very little that he could do until he became President.  The Bill will pass regardless of what Barack Obama does.  The bill will pass whether Obama or McCain end up as President. So the issue of your ire against Sen. Obama may not be the 4th amendment, but rather that you choose not to accept his tactical pragmatism in getting to the White House (because, I reiterate, the bill will pass and is not dependent on Barack Obama). 

I have listened to his speeches, and so I already knew he wasn't perfect, as he kept saying so.  He also said that he would disappoint me at times, and that we were bound to disagree at some point. 

I guess the person that you should contact at this point is Senator Reid if you really care about the 4th Amendment, as he is the one who has the power to bring the measure to the floor, or not to.  Last I checked, and in reading the article, Barack hasn't voted yet.  Even when he does, I will have to understand, considering that the bill will pass anyway.  I have children and I care, but I never saw Barack Obama as the Messiah who would do all exactly as I wanted.  Maybe I'm a pragamatist too.  Life does that to most. Again, the bill will still pass.

by FrenchieCat (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 9 comments) on Sunday, Jun 22, 2008 at 3:00:18 AM

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Reply: HA HA

More "Change you can count on".

by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 990 comments [34 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:57:50 AM

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Reply: I see change, I just don't see a Messiah

"My wife reminds me all of the time that I am not a perfect man, and I will not be a perfect candidate.  I may disappoint you sometimes, and we may not always agree.  But what I will do, is tell you things that you may not want to hear, but that you need to know. Change isn't easy"--Barack Obama (from his standard stump speech that he gave consistently throughout the primaries). 

Odd that you didn't hear that part, or maybe you didn't want to hear it.

If you at anytime truly believed that Obama was going to be 100% change 100% of the time,  you must be disappointed--setting unrealistic goals for oneself is always a let down when they don't come to pass.

by FrenchieCat (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 9 comments) on Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:27:02 AM

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Weary and Weary

I am so weary of Pelosi-style politicians who are afraid to fight for what's right unless they're guaranteed a victory in advance. I am so wearly of the political calculus prevailing over simply doing what is right. We need leaders, not more Reid-style managers. If Obama isn't that leader, he deserves to lose. But do we deserve to lose with him? No.

JP

by JonmarkP (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 111 comments [13 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Jun 22, 2008 at 6:08:30 PM

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