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June 13, 2008 at 05:35:20

Atheist community greatly disturbed by secret Obama meeting with Christian Leaders

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Questions Raised About Commitment to Democracy, Secret Deals to Bypass First Amendment

Los Angeles – The Atheist community learned with alarm of a secret meeting that presumed Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama held with self-proclaimed leaders of the US Christian community this week after apparently securing the nomination of his party in early June. 

"Meeting with Christian groups and leaders in public is perfectly appropriate for political candidates," said Atheists United president Stuart Bechman, who went on:

 

"But meeting with religious leaders behind closed doors only raises serious suspicions about the candidate's commitment to defending the First Amendment and the separation of church and state.  The timing of the meetings only make matters worse in that it appears like he is making a secret pact for their support in the upcoming election season.

 "Atheists and all who cherish our rights of government neutrality towards religion call on all of the presidential candidates to take a strong stand in defending the First Amendment, and to avoid questions of complicity and quid-pro-quo special favors from religious leaders."

When John F. Kennedy was running as a candidate for the US presidency, he gave a speech to the Greater Houston Minsterial Association where he stated: "I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute." 

He also said "I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end--where all men and all churches are treated as equal."  

Kennedy praised those government officials "whose public acts are responsible to all groups and obligated to none". He stated that religion was a "private matter" and proudly defended his pledge to be guided by his conscience and his oath of office rather than by any church official: "I do not speak for my church on public matters--and the church does not speak for me." 

Over the past eight years, that wall has become seriously eroded.  The trust that the public has placed in our government to defend that wall has been severely undercut as our elected leaders have not only neglected, but seemingly proudly flaunted their assaults on that wall. 

Mr. Obama has made "change in Washington" the cornerstone of his campaignHowever, by holding secret sessions with religious leaders, Mr. Obama appears to be repeating the patterns of the current administration and impugning his credibility to uphold his oath of office. 

If Mr. Obama truly wants to bring a change to Washington, we encourage him to reverse this ominous slide of religious pandering by our elected leaders and boldly and decisively make a commitment to redraw the line between religion and government.  

 

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Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

I should have expressed myself better,...

but the fundamentalists that I refer to are the Christian variety, the Right wing political variety, and the Atheist variety. Any varieties of fundamentalist that I missed should feel welcome to join in with the crowd here named.

by John Sanchez Jr. (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 1045 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 12:35:45 PM
 


Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

Being an Atheist does not make you a fundamentalist.

Being a fundamantalist does, whether you are Atheist, Christian, Jewish, Muslim or any other faith or devotion. When one's belief system leads one to believe that they can impose their beliefs or recieve special deference from others who don't share their faith (yes, Atheism is a faith, too) then they are fundamentalists.

by John Sanchez Jr. (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 1045 comments) on Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 6:08:48 AM
 


Undergraduate degree in political science and philosophy: summa cum laude, Phi Beta Kappa; with postgraduate work in political economics. Postgraduate degree is a juris doctorate. I am a voracious reader and, although I make no claim to expertise, have self studied in logic, linguistics, theology, theoretical physics, macroeconomics, technical and fundamental market analysis, world history, and many other subjects, which I believed at the time helped explain the world around me.

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W.M.L.Undergraduate degree in political science and philosophy: summa cum laude, Phi Beta Kappa; with postgraduate work in political economics. Postgraduate degree is a juris doctorate. I am a voracious reader and, although I make no claim to expertise, have self studied in logic, linguistics, theology, theoretical physics, macroeconomics, technical and fundamental market analysis, world history, and many other subjects, which I believed at the time helped explain the world around me.

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SOURCE PLEASE?

What is the author's source for the alleged meeting?  This is a very unusual article, ending only with links to the editor, newspapers, and congresspersons.  There is no “contact author,” etc. as usually follows other articles.  Additionally, I note the author has been a member for 25 weeks, but has made only one drive by comment (“What a cop out!”), and now this uncorroborated rumor about Obama. 

He does provide us links to write to our newspapers, though, so that the "greatly disturbed atheist community" for which he presumably speaks, can reach out and further disseminate a not so secret "Secret Obama Meeting with Christian Leaders."  

Come on editors.  There's a foul smell in the car, and I know I didn't. 

by W.M.L. (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 281 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 6:35:09 PM
 


Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

The meeting was reported in the corporate media,...

at least here in the Chicago area. When I heard of it, my supposition was that it was arranged to neutralize the automatic endorsement of Republicans from Christian pulpits.

by John Sanchez Jr. (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 1045 comments) on Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 6:13:20 AM
 

 

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