Georgianne

Your comparisons of human habitants per hectare can only be used as valuable information if "carrying capacities" are established for both.

Not providing this information allows you to value hectares in the Chad Desert to that of the fertile Mississippi valley as equals.

Adding an additional 100 million people to the U.S. will destroy this country and certainly any semblance to our present living standards.

The world is overpopulated, whether it be Africa or the masses that the mineral wealth of Africa is sought to provide for. We are well into our non-renewable reserves of natural occurring resources.

I do agree that Africa should be unhampered and unrestricted by foreign nations. Should their practices result in famine or feast, they should free to experience which ever descends upon them without intervention.

by Mike Folkerth (120 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 566 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 2:33:00 PM
 

Goose

Thank you for your input and for reading the article.

But what is good for goose is good for gander. My point, and I do have one, is that there is a hidden agenda to depopulate Africa and to take your point as valid, I did not see "carrying capacities" explained anywhere in mainstream. I have been to Central and South Africa and points in between and there are VAST and I do mean vast fertile valleys that are being preserved for conservation interests. Come along with me and I will show you.

I stand by the math, and the manipulative manner in which it was used.

by Georgianne Nienaber (145 articles, 46 quicklinks, 13 diaries, 337 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 2:50:50 PM
 

The Problem with Blaming Man for Global Warming

This is one of the big problems I see with claiming that man is causing global warming when we really aren't.  It gives these "conservation" organizations implicit power to reduce populations, or to never allow those populations to develop a decent standard of living.

by Frank Staheli (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 29 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 3:17:40 PM
 

Global warming

You hit the nail on the head about conservation interests. World Watch put out a paper in 2004 that took conservation organizations to task for being the corporate, yes I said corporate, lying, cheating entities that they are. And I consider myself a conservationist...but not an "ism."

Follow the money. Who gives out the big grants to conservation?

I dunno..my personal jury is out on global warming...so I am silent on that one. 

by Georgianne Nienaber (145 articles, 46 quicklinks, 13 diaries, 337 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 3:23:38 PM
 

Overheating

Three-quarters or more of the work done is totally unnecessary, is done solely for us humans to make 'the money' to pay interest and taxes and buy the food to live, because do we think that food grows in the ground or on trees of something goddammit? 

All the energy wasted in this unnecessary work is overheating the planet. - Ergo the infliction of the swindle of money on us all the world over via our bought-and-paid-for politicians is what is overheating the planet. 

And do you know who has been inflicting the fiction of finance on us all for the last five thousand years, and who presently is most responsible?  Just guess who.

See www.justice-publications.com/R.html

So abolish finance, work three months per year and stop overheating the planet.  And quite incidentally abolish wars, taxes, poverty, stress and most crime, and also incidentally, just enjoy life.  Easy.

by amazin (32 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 396 comments) on Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 8:41:43 AM
 

Actually, US plans big ole hectare increase

A little more research and you should be able to find that the good old U S of A and the power elite need a little elbow room and will be instituting a little hectare expansion in the near future. 

Frighteningly detailed down the the already built 800, give or take, FEMA camps all through the US, most conveniently right next to railroad tracks.  Add in the posse commitatis (sp?), referenced in one of the 35 articles of impeachment by Dennis Kucinich and martial law by executive order and bam-zip... a made to order nation-wide remodel for those hard to gift people on your list. 

 Now the "freaks" carrying the "The end of the world is near" signs are finally vindicated.

by bucketslogg (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 72 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 3:28:29 PM
 

Write about the FEMA Camps

I am worn out and cannot possibly do any more research. I am gratified that I get so much mail about looking into everything, but I am quickly turning into a three whiskey a day journalist from the stress of everything.

This time I am not joking. It is a cry for help!

Write about it!

by Georgianne Nienaber (145 articles, 46 quicklinks, 13 diaries, 337 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 3:39:48 PM
 

You know what... I should.

I think I'll check with my husband first and see if he won't mind if I endanger our lives.  He's a very kind man with a big heart and will more than likely opt for the greater good over a relatively safe, albeit, shortened then horrifying life we will alternately have.

 I have so much respect for people who are out there fighting the good fight, for everyone's sake.  I am still, for the most part, in shock and awe... great job George.  But, I'm composing myself, maybe, just maybe I'll catch ya in the funny papers.

by bucketslogg (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 72 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 6:38:36 PM
 

It is so nice to meet a person so informed, Georgianne

I am beginning to see this overpopulation drivel playing out once again. When the US suffered its' 60s/70s quagmire, we were reading about overpopulation and territorial imperative. We were living with war weariness and high gasoline prices. And just to divert attention, Earth Day was promoted. In my class a young man from Chicago was telling a young one from India how the earth was getting too crowded. The response was we didn't have enough people in the US.

I think of those vast acres (except Wyomingites usually refer to sections, which is 640 acres) and then look at the map of Russia where I imagine much of it has the same kind of topography. In Wyoming there are so few people, so much commerce. Oil, gas, methane gas, uranium and bentonite, besides the well known Powder River coal basin. It makes some sense that if there are few people above ground, it behooves them to core drill. The economy is great there because the state has low taxes. Many landownders, as well as the Treasury in Cheyenne, get a percentage from mineral rights exploited by energy companies.

WMD in Iraq? No, but our government is having a hard time getting the "sovereign country" to fork over more mineral rights than the Iraqis care to contribute.

Another thing. Notice how the tone has changed from trading down to save the environment to taking public transit to save the cost?

by Margaret Bassett (25 articles, 1606 quicklinks, 29 diaries, 966 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 10:37:04 PM
 

Wow

Margaret,

I just caught up on a couple of your articles and I want to be like you when I grow up! What a woman!

by Georgianne Nienaber (145 articles, 46 quicklinks, 13 diaries, 337 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 10:47:12 PM
 

The people of Africa ...

have the unfortunate disadvantage of having a skin pigment disagreeable with those whom see themselves superior and living in an area with abundant natural resources said elites believe they need to maintain their strangle-hold over the rest of the world and maintain "our standard of living" at the exspence of others.

That people of Africa have feelings, a heritage and a history reaching back to the dawn of time makes not one whimper of difference to those whom would perform genocide of the likes to make Hitler's "Final Solution" pale in comparison.

The "Endgame" is real. There is a move on to eliminate 80% of the people on this planet targeting people of color.

 http://www.911docs.net/endgame.php 

Evidence of AIDS and Ebola being introduced to the African people by elements within the CIA can be found at various sites.

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/1904

Of course the sad thing is we/they/mankind has know-how to give every person on this planet a decent standard of living. But, that for all our accomplishments, stunning achievements, of which most we're not even made aware of, from what we know of ancient civilizations and mysteries we're just now being to understand, and of untold others that were buried in ashes of Mesopotamia to Mesoamerican to present sacking of Baghdad, we have with all our accumulated knowledge haven’t yet been able to crawl but a few inches out of our caves and simply will not stop beating ourselves over the head with a club we refuse to let go of.

So what do we do? I have the sad misfortune to inform you that, yet you may be tired, and that although neither dust from plains of Africa has yet to be washed from your hair, nor smell of thick swamp flowers have surrendered their scent from your clothes, that it is now more than ever that we need your talent, intelligence and courage. And that although your spirit may be in need of rest there are those whom tonight, as we tap on keyboards, snug, feed and sheltered, beg for release from torture inflicted pain. And we don’t have to travel half-way around the world to find evidence of this.

You’re right Georgianne, evidence is all around us, it’s not brain surgery, it’s all here – but not for long. We can’t wait – sorry – already Internet 2, corporate tyranny’s long panned execution to destroy Net Neutrality is well underway. Soon, very soon, this freedom will be taken away. We have to make the most of it while we can or for sure all our voices will be silenced in screams of those we will join.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ba9e_4907&c=1

Now more than ever, wounded, weak and unwilling those of us who can employ our pens as swords have no time for rest. Our enemies never rest and although they are many, we still outnumber them. And as long as we can keep writing we can take the place of those souls that have fallen so that we may carry on.

And I can promise you this – it won’t get any easier. Michael Regan, that’s right Ronald “Bang-Bang” Reagan’s adopted son, on his radio show openly called for his listeners to hunt down activist Mark Dice and “ … shot him in the head …” and that “… he’d buy the bullets,”  on air.  

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/130608_b_murder.htm

If Benjamin Fulford is to be believed, and I see no reason to doubt him, he’s already been warned that if he did not stop exposing Illuminati’s genocide of people of color he would be killed. And that and ancient Asian secret society has given a warning that it will unleash its 6,000,000 members and 100,000 assassins against the elites of white civilization and their Earth-Quake machine HAARP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InV0cVH6KZc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRN0GDFH3Vs

I wish I could say I was making this up. I would wish to believe someone else was.  

9/11 is looking like a conspiracy of tremendous proportions and that thousands of people were duped and/or coerced into. It’s looking more and more like most of people and politicians of influence have been bought, threatened, or otherwise silenced.

You can bet the house if the-powers-that-be could find a way to “Wellstone” Kucinich right now they would.

No, no, I’m sorry, for once more you must draw from your Nordic ancestors spirit and cut through the fog of lies and help lead mostly undeserving masses to safer shores using your words as a compass.

We need you to not falter – you are that strong.

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 1387 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 11:21:56 PM
 

African Input

My journalist friend, who is also my son in the best of African tradition, will be joining me in NOLA in a few days. He has been deeply touched by the flooding in the Midwest and shocked at the ineptitude of the Mainstream Press. He is dismayed that the American people, with all of our individual freedom of expression, have kept our collective head in the sand about world affairs. He worries about his mom.

"I think maybe you are just tired," he tells me. "Did you sleep well last night?"

He wants to learn all he can about NOLA and take it back to his country. He wants Americans to understand more about his culture.

NOLA will like him.

by Georgianne Nienaber (145 articles, 46 quicklinks, 13 diaries, 337 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 11:40:53 PM
 

Of course NOLA will welcome

him and cast her seductive haunting charm of blending colors and cultures to carry with him wherever he goes.

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 1387 comments) on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 11:51:13 PM
 

"Africa is no more overpopulated than Iraq ....by Nienaber

There is another place on the World Map where WHITES of another religious denomination, mostly IMMIGRANTS(?) from Europe are also complaining about the UNFAIR 'population growth rate' of the NATIVES and seeking CUSTER & KRUGER type solutions to halt such growth. Guess, where!  

by syed mahdi (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 125 comments) on Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 2:45:53 AM
 

kill 'em off

recently, I did a book Review on The State of HEALTH ATLAS .

This is a unique book that show maps based on health statistics. It was horrifying to see that there were nations in Africa where the average lifespan in Africa in less than 39 years.

We need more ways, and more ways to empower organizations that stop transnational megacorporations and their agents, like the WTO from terraforming the planet to meet the needs of corporations instead of humans.  There should be an international treaty that corporations, worldwide do NOT have the rights afforded to humans-- the rights currently call rights of corporate personhood. 

by Rob Kall (801 articles, 3910 quicklinks, 329 diaries, 1692 comments) on Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 6:32:20 AM