What bothers me is the Democratic process implies that if a President is able to wait it out until a new election and a new President takes the office; somehow magically the offending President is off the hook? This really implodes my mind in thinking I have confidence in such a system. Who made that rule? Where in the law does it state we will run out of time? When crimes are committed as far as I know there is no statue of limitations especially when it comes to taking away life.
These people do the crime, they are not off the hook, whether a new election or President is elected or not; as far as I am concerned.
And speaking about new Presidents, another major issue is the fact that we have many many candidates running for office, yet none except Dennis Kucinich are ringing the impeachment bell.
Well ring my dinner bell, why in the world would we want to elect any candidate who is not seeking impeachment as if they certainly are not interested in the rule or letter of the law? I might add; especially when the sitting President and Vice President have committed so many crimes, and bragged about doing them.
It doesn't take a tinker-tot sand toy wizard zippo match-box car scientist to figure out what we need to do and go about doing it, which certainly requires the duty to impeach. Election campaigns should revolve and focus on impeachment.
Even Mike Gravel a well known candidate who was instrumental in the Nixon impeachment has somehow clam baked and says nothing! Is it because of a sensed futile effort, because really Nixon got away with what he did? He resigned, and then the next President Mr. Ford pardoned him? Is that the reason Mike Gravel won't seek impeachment; on Cheney and Bush; really?
And so what sort of image to the world does that leave behind? Oh....that American leaders can break laws and get away with it no matter how serious their offense? History does not lie, it tells the real story my American friends. All the lying Presidents got away with crimes. America has never had a successful impeachment. Something is radically wrong and distrubing about this!
In fact it is quite psychotic, and displays a moral mental deficiency of the character of the United States and its Law officials or Representatives meaning Senators, and Congress people who naively think no US President in America is or has been bad enough of a leader deserving impeachment.
How insane, and outrageous, especially to the people who were victims to the crimes. No wonder other countries don't want Democracy, because it is so belligerent, pugnacious, combative, arrogant, warring, and without self reflection to human dignity and the necessity in honoring the code of law. Lawless Leaders Reflect Lawless Citizens. Now consider America's crime problem. Anyone want to go to the Malls to watch a shooting? Or go to a School to watch a massacre? You get my point!!
And so who and what Presidential candidate is out there saying they will seek impeachment and prosecution; promising they will not pardon political criminals? The silence is deafening.
Instead America has compiled a history dating further back than Harry Truman, where every sitting President has broken the law egregiously, and the only ones they impeach are frivilous unsubstantiated flimsy impeachment hearings and sessions that ultimately failed.
They tried to impeach 2 democrats Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton, and failed. And then Republicans rallied to impeach Nixon because he was willing to end the Vietnam War, something the MIC and War fanatics wanted to keep going.
As far as the Congress and Senate being implicated with the Presidents Crimes, I think are without merit or basis, if they reconcile their mistake, especially if they realize they were the victims to lies, and false disclaims and declarations from the Executive Branch.
Once the truth is known they have an obligation to speak up and proceed with the business of the day, meaning the retraction of the lies that made them vote the way they voted. The fault lies squarely on the President who initiated the orders, wrote the Acts, and signed them into law.
Bush will be held accountable. There are too many people who believe he needs to be brought to justice. Since his poll ratings are lower than sewer gas, he certainly has no standing support or effective posturing that can stop impeachment. He has guns, and could have his henchmen orchestrate another terrorist attack, but I think we all would know why and who did it if it happened. Bush is boxed in, and we need to relieve him of his post.
If not we are adrift in senselessness to the law; we are aimlessly going toward what direction my fellow Americans? The choices are clear, to continue supporting lawlessness in both parties where law based on the Constitution becomes impotent and of no consequences, or do we operate and clean out the blocked arteries that has manifest itself in Americas Modern Day Political Establishment. We need to use Impeachment when we actually see it and need it, and reexamine the proceedings that were quite unsubstantiated and flimsy from prior impeachment proceedings.
American against War and Violence. Writer, English Teacher, Inventor, Creator of the First Manmade Floating Farm On The Ocean.... My companies name is ACET: Algae Charcoal Ethanol Technicorp. We grow Algae for Oil.
I had not heard about Pelosi using illegals in the vinyards. I think they are doing the wrong things although there is no certainty in why. It is a criminal obstruction of Justice, a failure of Duty, possibly TREASON to stand in the way of Impeachment when the High Crimes are so overwhelming.
It will only get worse if they do not take out the head and exhibit that we are strong enough to handle it. Should we run off the top two I really think this would be healing for our nation. It would ease the fear in developing nations.
I like Ron Paul. I really think if we defund our covert activity against other nations especially ones that seem to honor democratic principles we would promote a better world.
We should convert as fast as possible to the use of wind power and the production of liquid Hydrogen from the wind power. We could produce turbines for the global conversion. We could promote a healthy, Peace Loving World. We could do this by promoting a very religious based philosophy (Love thy Neighbor) rather then rule by force.
We could spend some of the budgetary savings on repairing and improving our transportation system. We could convert our aging rail system to a faster, safer means of transporting freight and passengers. We could create so many jobs in the united states that we could increase Legal imigration to help fill the void rather then the current wave of illegals used by those who disregard law and seek to exploit workers by putting a downward pressure on wages and supporting the lawlessness of illegal imigration.
Our lawmakers consider themselves as nobles. They feel above the common law. They would rather create a War on drugs and infringe on rights of citizens while they are covertly aiding in the smuggling of drugs into our country and protecting the criminals in their employ who do the footwork.
The reason we have a W excessively expanding executive power is because of the Nixon Pardon. Had that leader been held accountable for his crimes which are miniscule compared to W's then this expansion of power never would have been played out. It has been a major goal in the life of Dick Cheney to expand the unitary executive thought into a reality. They must be impeached. They will resign before they are removed, but for the sake of the country they must be held acountable for their crimes even if they have to be turned over to an international court.
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Sleeper (1 articles, 1 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 276 comments)
on Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 11:00:11 AM
You are correct on all of your assertions. We sent those people to washington for a purpose, and it appears that Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid are hindering that purpose, Before we attempt the goals you posted, including indictments against Chaney, and Bush we must work on removing pelosi, and Reid. I liked Pelosi, until I realized where she really stood
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GUY P. FRASER (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 62 comments)
on Monday, December 24, 2007 at 3:18:37 PM
That's right Sleeper. We need to impeach from the inside and the outside meaning get John Conyers to work against Pelosi. She is corrupted and needs to change her course. We also need one of the Presidential candidates or more than one to begin supporting impeachment. So far none have said a word. It is quite disturbing. How are they going to deal with the crimes this administration has committed? Are they for the rule of law or not? If they ignore it, as they all have; it is a sure clue they are part of the Bush snow blindness, corruption heading in the obvious wrong direction.
I think Impeachment will help the economy. A new confidence will emerge, and people will begin to have faith that America as overcome the worse. But impeachment has to be successful. We need a conviction, and I certainly do not see why it won't stick in this case.
People are defaulting on mortgages and not paying credit cards at an alarming rate. They have loss confidence in the American direction. In fact the economy is not controlled by the Fed. They may think they control it with increasing rates or lower them, but that has nothing to do with the confidence factor, or the peoples personal objective. They don't want to support a war President. They are not going to work for it. So activity stops. With Global Warming hovering over them, they are secure in their ideas to not support this administration.
But when we Impeach for the Economy the whole conditon will change. Jobs will appear in stopping Global Warming, and people will know their efforts will not be about supporting Bush and the WAR machine. They just don't want it. I DON"T WANT IT. Goodness is not about WAR. And the Economy is not about WAR.
So Candidates better get tuned in, because even now they are drueling idiots that have no real clue of the real America.
IMPEACH FOR THE ECONOMY>
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Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 930 comments)
on Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 5:46:41 PM
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