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September 30, 2007 at 08:22:12

Is Osama bin Laden Dead? Part 1: December is for Dying

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GUPTA: You can look [at pictures from a December 2001 video] and notice that he has what some doctors refer to as sort of a frosting over of his features -- his sort of grayness of beard, his paleness of skin, very gaunt sort of features. A lot of times people associate this with chronic illness. Doctors can certainly look at that and determine some clinical features.

But even more than that, it's sometimes possible to differentiate the specific type of disease or illness that he may be suffering from. The sort of frosting of the appearance is something that people a lot of times associate with chronic kidney failure, renal failure, certainly someone who is requiring dialysis would have that.

He's also not moving his arms. I looked at this tape all the way through its entire length. He never moved his left arm at all. The reason that might be important is because people who have had a stroke -- and certainly people are at increased risk of stroke if they also have kidney failure -- he may have had a stroke and therefore is not moving his left side. And in the rest of the videotape, he does move his right side a little bit more than he does his left. So those are some of the things that are sort of "of note" here in this more recent videotape.

ZAHN: I think we need to remind the viewers once again that the president of Pakistan talked about [bin Laden] importing two dialysis machines into Afghanistan. Of course, no one other than the president of Pakistan right now is confirming that [bin Laden] in fact needed dialysis.

GUPTA: That's right. And again, renal dialysis -- talking about hemodialysis -- is something that really is reserved for patients in end-stage renal failure. That means their kidneys have just completely shut down.

The most common cause of something like that would be something like diabetes and hypertension. Once that's happened, if you're separated from your dialysis machine -- and incidentally, dialysis machines require electricity, they're going to require clean water, they're going to require a sterile setting -- infection is a huge risk with that. If you don't have all those things and a functioning dialysis machine, it's unlikely that you'd survive beyond several days or a week at the most.

ZAHN: If he had all these things you're talking about to keep the dialysis machine running, how much help does he need around him to administer the treatment?

GUPTA: You certainly need someone who really knows how to run that dialysis machine. You have to have someone who's actually assessing his blood, Osama bin Laden's blood, to see what particular dialysate he would need, and to be able to change his dialysate as needed. So you'd need a kidney specialist, a technician -- quite a few people around him. (Source: click here)

It was pretty clear to everyone except, perhaps, some factions of the American government, who may know one thing and say another anyway, that bin Laden had advanced kidney disease, a disease that would be extremely hard to treat in the mountains of Afghanistan or Pakistan, a disease that can lead to death in even the best of circumstances.

 Wait, It Gets Worse

According to a January 28 report by Dan Rather on CBS News, on September 10. 2001, one day before that fateful September day, bin Laden was in a Pakistani military hospital in Rawalpindi. He may well have been in that same hospital during and after 9/11. All of this fuels immense speculation about the extent of cooperation between al Qaeda and Pakistan, as well as underscoring that bin Laden was a sick, sick man. Here is a portion of the transcript:

DAN RATHER, CBS ANCHOR: As the United states and its allies in the war on terrorism press the hunt for Osama bin Laden, CBS News has exclusive information tonight about where bin Laden was and what he was doing in the last hours before his followers struck the United States September 11.

This is the result of hard-nosed investigative reporting by a team of CBS news journalists, and by one of the best foreign correspondents in the business, CBS's Barry Petersen. Here is his report.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) BARRY PETERSEN, CBS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Everyone remembers what happened on September 11. Here's the story of what may have happened the night before. It is a tale as twisted as the hunt for Osama bin Laden.

CBS News has been told that the night before the September 11 terrorist attack, Osama bin Laden was in Pakistan. He was getting medical treatment with the support of the very military that days later pledged its backing for the U.S. war on terror in Afghanistan.

Pakistan intelligence sources tell CBS News that bin Laden was spirited into this military hospital in Rawalpindi for kidney dialysis treatment. On that night, says this medical worker who wanted her identity protected, they moved out all the regular staff in the urology department and sent in a secret team to replace them. She says it was treatment for a very special person. The special team was obviously up to no good.

"The military had him surrounded," says this hospital employee who also wanted his identity masked, "and I saw the mysterious patient helped out of a car. Since that time," he says, "I have seen many pictures of the man. He is the man we know as Osama bin Laden. I also heard two army officers talking to each other. They were saying that Osama bin Laden had to be watched carefully and looked after." Those who know bin Laden say he suffers from numerous ailments, back and stomach problems. Ahmed Rashid, who has written extensively on the Taliban, says the military was often there to help before 9/11.

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ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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Dead or Alive, does it really matter?

Do you really believe that bin Laden matters much? He was, I concede, a focal point for half wits and rednecks hatreds, and a symbol of a war for those who love to hate.

Osama bin Laden, dead or alive, was merely a convenience to the neocons, who had been working towards a permanent American military presence in the Middle East for decades. AlQaeda will endure the death of one of its financiers, as it has many such whose wealth exceeds the gross national product of several nations. The USA has diligently and purposively fomented class and religious warfare in that region of the world to its own purpose and whether one figure, however central, lives or dies is not relevant.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments) on Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 9:42:22 AM
 


Student of history, religion, exoteric and esoteric, the Humanities in general and advocate for peace, justice and the unity of humankind, not through force, but through self-realization and mutual respect.
Mac McKinneyStudent of history, religion, exoteric and esoteric, the Humanities in general and advocate for peace, justice and the unity of humankind, not through force, but through self-realization and mutual respect.

Deflating the Archetype

What is driving masses of American people to continue to swallow the War on Terror is the stranglehold of this archetype of evil on their their psyches, just as the Nazis nourished the Jew as the archetype of evil. If we can deflate this archetype, Americans will begin to free their minds more and more. Right now America is lurching from bogey man to bogey man irrationally, emotionally with no engagement of the critical faculties. Every revelation of truth is a step in the right direction.

by Mac McKinney (42 articles, 69 quicklinks, 164 diaries, 1070 comments) on Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 10:01:51 AM
 


10 year Navy veteran,former Federal employee with various agencies,
Gallaher10 year Navy veteran,former Federal employee with various agencies,

I could be Osama.

It is funny. My mother in law asked me with concerned look on her face if I had seen the latest Osama bin Laden tape when it came out.  I assured her, "With enough makeup the guys from Hollywood could make me look like Osama bin Laden. The government is just trying to scare you. I used to put out false information like this for your government when I was in the military."

by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 608 comments) on Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 6:11:05 PM
 

 

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