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March 10, 2008 at 05:41:49

Bush and Uribe v. Chavez and Correa

by Stephen Lendman     Page 4 of 6 page(s)

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-- the diplomatic front by accusing Chavez of destabilizing the region; also by "diplomatic terrorism," including sanctions "for made-up things" like non-existent drugs trafficking or not cooperating against it or the "war on terrorism;" and

-- the military front with a large US presence in the region, major support for Uribe, and "use of Colombian paramilitaries (and) intervention of US Special Forces; the paramilitaries are the 'actors'....they're....sent....to try to assassinate Chavez (but) command-and-control is directed and controlled by the US Special Forces;" the paramilitaries and Colombian army "do the dirty work" while the US is "building up a secret (military) base near" Venezuela's border; in addition, "there were attempts to push the FARC into Venezuela to provide an excuse for Colombian troops to enter the country (and) make (the) border a combat zone." At the time Golinger wrote, she said there were more than 3000 paramilitaries in the Caracas area alone. That number or more are still likely there and elsewhere in the country, and in Ecuador as well.



Colombian-Directed Hostility Toward Chavez

Since his 2002 election, Uribe has been hostile to Chavez, and Colombian paramilitaries continue committing border-area terrorist attacks and within Venezuela as well. Uribe is Washington's key Latin American ally, he's liberally funded for his role, and his background makes him ideal - his hard right ideology, a wealthy land-owning family background, and a tainted past history:

-- he's been linked to the country's paramilitary death squads and drug cartels;

-- for over 20 years in various government positions, he supported state terrorism, including kidnappings and assassinations - of trade unionists, opposition group peasants, social and human rights activists, journalists, and others on the left who oppose the country's corporatist interests; and

-- he frequently violates Venezuelan sovereignty with full backing and funding of the Bush administration calling the shots.

In his earlier writing, long-time Latin American expert, James Petras, referred to "the Uribe Doctrine (that) lays the basis for unilateral military intervention anywhere in the hemisphere (and echoes) Washington's global pronouncements." They remain unchanged and claim the right to:

-- "violate any country's sovereignty (through) force and violence;

-- recruit and subvert military and security officials to serve (Colombian and Washington's) interests;

-- allocate funds to bounty hunters or 'third parties' to engage in illegal violent acts within a targeted country;

-- (assert) the supremacy of Colombian laws, decrees and policies over and against the sovereign laws of the intervened countries;" and

-- target Venezuela and militarily act wherever else Washington directs it in the hemisphere.

Chavez correctly calls Colombia "Latin America's Israel." And Washington funds it well for that purpose and to aid the Bush administration's top regional priority - toppling Chavez with Uribe's incursion the latest episode that signals further escalation. Petras says Uribe acts openly, and he's supported "at the highest level of the US government." Bogota ambassador, William Brownfield, is also supportive. He formerly served in the same capacity in Caracas where he frequently clashed with Chavez while there.

Petras also explains what Uribe's doctrine is up to, and it's clear where it originates. First and foremost it's to support Bush administration regional policies, specifically target Chavez, and get billions in funding to do it. In addition, it's to:

-- "destroy Cuban-Venezuelan trade ties (to) undermine (Cuba's) government;" efforts to do it may now intensify against the new Raul Castro government;

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The shrinking influence of the USA

in many places around the world is well exposed in this fine and exhaustively detailed work, thanks for it Mr. Lendman.

The monies this nation pours into Columbia, supposedly to combat the drug cartels that are poisoning our youth, goes mainly to make Columbia's military the most powerful in that region of the world. Just like Israel, Columbia is propped up with our tax revenues and made as a miltary bastion in a region ever more hostile to US interests there.

There are two great tragedies here, from a standpoint of our own interests; one is that the American people are simply disinterested in this situation to our everlasting shame. The other is that, regardless of which candidate wins the Presidency in the fall, our policies towards Columbia, Venezuela, Israel and the Palestinians will not change one iota.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2388 comments) on Monday, March 10, 2008 at 8:47:17 AM
 


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You are either very young or very shallow

perhaps both. Concerning internet etiquette, it is a gross violation of manners to correct ones spelling, grammar or punctuation. You should learn this, adhere to it, or risk being labeled as unworthy of response.

Perhaps you are simply grouchy today, perhaps you are worse than that.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2388 comments) on Monday, March 10, 2008 at 4:34:32 PM
 


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Clarifying the US Incursion into Ecuador

The US=Colombian raid was an act of war. In violation of the UN Charter, it illustrates the Administration's zeal for yet another preemptive war.

Under NSPD 51 President Bush has the excuse to declare Martial Law and to suspend the 2008 elections. Stephen Lendman is one of the few who recognizes the dangers the incursion might bring.

If anyone has a more cogent explanation for these goings on, he or she has my complete attention. 

by Jason Paz (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 72 comments) on Monday, March 10, 2008 at 12:55:25 PM
 


62 years old, world traveler and former expat, hunting, cooking.
Don Gist62 years old, world traveler and former expat, hunting, cooking.

No Bush, Just Uribe, Chavito and el Correazo

I'm sure you will be surprised to hear that Chavez and Correa both commited what has been adjudicated to be Acts of War by Intl Law by giving aid and comfort to the enemy of Colombia.  I don't need to invent nor borrow from the talking points of the rabid socialists to know that Mr. Lendman's article is pure invention.  I've spent too much time in all three of these countries to be gullible enough to believe what he purports.  To begin with, Ecuador was advised by Interpol in June of 2007 of the Sta. Rosa emcampment and did nothing.  In January this year, that harmless little fellow, Raul (not Paul) Reyes visited Romania to attempt to locate nuclear material.  He travelled with, guess, a Venezuelan passport.  Now, how did he get that!  Ah, I didn't make that up, that was an Interpol report.

 When Interpol validates the computers, and contents, how will you defend that, Mr. Lendman?  Tell me, do you know why Ecuador has not returned the FARC Kidnapping victim, Sandra Hernandez to Colombia?  Recall that she was among the survivors at the camp.  I'd love to hear her story.

 By the way, The Chilean students photographed at the Sta Rosa camp were in Quito for a socialist gathering, and just happened to find their way to Sta Rosa, with no help at all.  Now there's a story for you. 

 Mr. Lendman, I'm afraid your article is so full of "errors" that it seems to match something I'd read in Prensa Latina (Havana) Granma (Havana) La Hora (Quito, pro goverment) or the Venezuelan government. 

by Don Gist (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 7 comments) on Monday, March 10, 2008 at 3:29:07 PM
 


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Pot calling out Kettle heh

You speak of assumption as if it were fact. The violation committed by ColOmbia (happy now kid?) is fact, the contents of that computer are not verified and perhaps will never be, yet you are quick to deflect blame here. I guess you prefer fascists like Uribe to socialists like Chavez, who cares?

You honestly think that we care or believe your credentials after you post such a silly thing as this?

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2388 comments) on Monday, March 10, 2008 at 4:40:37 PM
 


62 years old, world traveler and former expat, hunting, cooking.
Don Gist62 years old, world traveler and former expat, hunting, cooking.

Pots and kettles

I suppose you are telling me that this is a blog open to all who agree with the views expounded by the extreme left wing.  In that case, I don't care either, if you can't handle what I write, then don't read it.  Your absurd statement that I prefer fascist Uribe to socialist Chavez may better be statede as, yes, I prefer a democratic president to a marxist despot any day.  (In case you haven't heard, Chavez has declared himself to be a marxist). 

 I would imagine that you believe people like me should be locked up, which Castro has been doing for nearly fifty years, or possibly shot, as Che Guevara specialized in during the first days of the new Cuban government (some 7,000 people went straight to the firing squads), because we are counter to your revolution.  I happen to believe we have a right to our opinions, and the right to self defense.  FARC does not. 

The latest bit of news on Sta Rosa is that one of the uninjured survivors is a Mexican citizen who had been naturalized,- his original country or origin was Cuba.  I suppose he was also working on his thesis.  The forensic experts working on the computers are Interpol personnel.  I wonder, if they pronounce the computers and data as genuine, will you still rant that they are a fraud?

by Don Gist (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 7 comments) on Monday, March 10, 2008 at 6:27:41 PM
 


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A torrent of right wing rhetoric

Now if I had soap and a towel I could shower in it.....

Chavez, as you well know, received over 60% of the popular vote in an election certified as fair by the Carter Commission. He has given heating oil to the poor in the Bronx New York, among many other charitable acts, some Marxist there you betcha.

Uribe, on the other hand sponsors and depends upon right wing death squads, has received hundreds and hundreds of millions of our dollars to fight drug cartels which continue to flourish regardless. Some democrat!

You are free to post whatsoever you wish here, just as I am free to note the bias and sophomoric logic contained within your effort, your crocodile tears notwithstanding...shill much for Bush?

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2388 comments) on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 at 7:03:48 AM
 


62 years old, world traveler and former expat, hunting, cooking.
Don Gist62 years old, world traveler and former expat, hunting, cooking.

Schill for Bush?

I don't recall quoting Bush at all, this has nothing to do with him.  Chavez had 60%, and the legitimacy of that is questionable.  Presently, his support in Venezuela is around 20%, according to many Venezuelan friends.  Uribe's last poll reflected 85% overall support, and 83% support for the Ecuador incursion to get Raul Reyes.  Los Paras were put out of operation by the Colombian government 4 years ago, so that nonsense is getting old.  Chavez did not offer oil out of the goodness of his heart, he was buying support, the same as he does in Latin America.  There haven't been that many takers at that, in several states his offer was rejected, and CITGO is being boycotted by 80% of its former customers who see him for what he is.

 I fully realize that this is a "progressive"  "left leaning" blog, and I present a view that is heresy meriting my execution in several socialist countries, but my opinions are based on my and others experiences, and just maybe it will make some of you think a little bit.

by Don Gist (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 7 comments) on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 at 7:31:18 AM
 


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ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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You may, of course, lie all you wish

Colombian right wing death squads are currently active within that nation, very active, and with the support of many within the Uribe government, the President included. Uribe himself is nothing more or less than a tool of the Bush intentions to keep South America enslaved to US corporations.

That election was, once again, certified as fair by the Carter Commission, ignore facts all you wish. According to every account not coming out of an NSA or CIA cubicle ( how is the view anyway?) Chavez has , not only th eoverwhelming support of his citizenry, but the support of most of South and Central America as well.

You may tell all the fairy tales you care to make up, but they will be exposed as such and you will be thought of accordingly. Dont cry those stupid tears about free speech either because your idea of such is lies and distortions as you are simply a tool.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2388 comments) on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 11:59:27 AM
 


62 years old, world traveler and former expat, hunting, cooking.
Don Gist62 years old, world traveler and former expat, hunting, cooking.

Cry?

Little buddy, I do not, and have not, cried about anything, although I wouldn't mind getting in your insolent little face at this point.  Neither have I lied.  I've spent more time in Colombia, Ecuador, Central and South America than you've been alive, and my own relatives and friends still living there are my primary sources of information, along with local newspapers in any country of interest.  Have you done that?  Oh my, you would need to speak Spanish in order to read them, and I'm sure your party line news comes from the English version of Prensa Latina (Havana Cuba) and similar sources. 

For a pipsqueak like you to call me a liar is like a 2 year old screaming at the top of his lungs thinking he's communicating something intelligble,- Absolutely juvenile.

by Don Gist (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 7 comments) on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 12:20:59 PM
 


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ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
Member banned on June 3, 2008 for repeated abuse of editors.

I KNEW YOU WOULD EXPOSE YOURSELF

Now button your fly, understand that I am neither little, your buddy, or a pipsqueek. Im 240 lbs, six foot even and a former biker of long standing in a certain club. You may get in my face but you would certainly regret doing so.

You are a damn liar and you and I both know that to be fact. you posted tripe, plain and simple, egregious lies in fact and then lost your temper because someone cared enough to expose you as the liar you are. Tough, punk.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2388 comments) on Monday, March 17, 2008 at 3:20:23 PM
 


I'm a 40-year old Ecuadorian who studied in the United States and has many relatives and friends there. I love that country and would hope it continues to be the inspiration for the rest of the world. I'm concerned, however, that out of ignorance and naivité, many people in the U.S., particularly Democrats, are being manipulated by Fidel Castro (or his brother), Chávez and Islamic terrorist.
Antonio CalderonI'm a 40-year old Ecuadorian who studied in the United States and has many relatives and friends there. I love that country and would hope it continues to be the inspiration for the rest of the world. I'm concerned, however, that out of ignorance and naivité, many people in the U.S., particularly Democrats, are being manipulated by Fidel Castro (or his brother), Chávez and Islamic terrorist.

Bush and Uribe v. Chavez and Correa

Mr. Gist is right. As an Ecuadorian who studied in the United States and has many relatives living there, I'm increasingly concerned about Americans being manipulated by Fidel Castro, Hugo Chávez and Islamic Terrorists. Hugo Chávez steals millions from his people to manipulate people in the U.S. From the comments I'm reading here, except for Mr. Gist's, I'm afraid he is achieving his purpose. My family and friends in Ecuador are now in the hands of a dictator, Rafael Correa, whose campaign was paid by Chávez and FARC. They were both working with FARC to undermine Uribe, because he is a friend of the U.S. They are aslo working with Islamics to harm the United States. We can't defend ourselves because we are in a ditatorship. Please do become informed, but not with "news" from the enemies of the United States, but with real news.

by Antonio Calderon (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 7:00:02 PM
 

 

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