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September 16, 2007 at 10:07:33

Is Peace or Impeachment Possible?

by David Swanson     Page 4 of 5 page(s)

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The idea of making Cheney in particular an object of sympathy may seem ludicrous.  But then so did the idea that Saddam Hussein was about to attack us with unmanned aerial vehicles.  Common sense is not enough in Washington.  We need hard numbers.  I think Congress should start with Cheney and watch as Republicans are forced to abandon him.  The Republicans would have done this to the Democrats years ago.  The idea that impeachment would help Bush and Cheney originated in Republican National Committee talking points published in May 2006.  Pelosi immediately adopted the idea as her own.  It flies in the face of the historical record.  When the Republicans have moved impeachment, as against Truman for example, they've benefited at the polls.  When the Democrats tried to impeach Nixon, who was popular compared to Cheney or Bush, they won huge victories.  When they promised not to impeach Reagan, they lost in the next elections.  The exceptional case is the Clinton impeachment which was uniquely unpopular.  Nonetheless, the Republicans hung onto both houses of Congress and the White House.  In fact, they lost very few seats, fewer than is the norm at that point in the tenure of a majority in Congress.  The Democrats may be risking more by not impeaching than they would be by doing it.  But unless we can get polls done in swing districts that show overwhelmingly that the Democrats will lose seats by not impeaching, they are unlikely to act.  This is what their staffers tell me.  And polls showing they'd gain seats by impeaching may not be enough, if they think they'd do OK without it.  And we'll have to show that Republicans save their seats by backing impeachment if we want any Republicans to act.  Of course this is all utterly disgusting.  Human life and the future of democracy are not concerns that even come up.  It's all about elections.

Excuse #13:  Impeachment would remind people of Bill Clinton. 

Well, would that be so horrible?  I was no fan of Bill Clinton, but compared to Bush and Cheney he looks like a saint. 

Excuse #14:  Nancy Pelosi opposes impeachment.

Excuse #15:  Hillary Clinton opposes impeachment.

The way we bring them around is to show that the Democrats have a better chance at the White House as the party with backbone and integrity than as the party that just isn't the Republicans. 

So, what can we do? 

Raise your hand if to get rid of Bush you'd do for him what Monica did for Bill. 

Nine patriotic Americans!  Thank you!

OK.  May not be needed.  There's a saying that goes like this:  let's save our pessimism for better times. 

We cannot afford the luxury of pessimism.  While there are things Congress refuses to even consider, like ending the occupation or impeaching Cheney or Bush, there are also things that we as citizens have a responsibility to consider but rarely do.  We can shut down our Congress members' offices with endless repeated sit-ins.  We can make it impossible for them to work.  That changes the whole calculation.  We can shut down the city of Washington.  The next big march is on the 29th, following a camp in front of the Capitol from the 22nd to the 29th.  If we bring a million people and on the 29th refuse to leave, if we block the streets and fill the jails, all bets and probably all wars are off. 

 Whether we can manage such feats or not, if we keep building and pushing an impeachment movement, not only do we communicate to the world our good intentions, but we are prepared should some new event help trigger a pulse in the corpse of Congress.  And let us hope that event is not an attack on Iran. 

 We can also organize in and do polling in swing districts to try to show the electoral advantage to be gained from doing the right thing. 

 We can also keep pressuring key Congress members like Congressman Wexler and Congresswoman Wasserman-Schultz.  We can do this through local media activism, PR, letters to editors, calls to shows, through visits, phone calls, emails, faxes, letters, post cards, posters, billboards, through honk-to-impeach events where you hold posters saying "Honk to Impeach" at the side of the street outside their offices, and through events where we sit in and read the Constitution aloud, refusing to leave. 

 We can also take our demands directly to the people Congress listens to:  the media.  The fact is that if we had had Fox News and if the other outlets had been in 1974 what they are now, Nixon would never have resigned.  Today, the media do not cover the crimes, the evidence, or the public outrage, and do not poll the public's opinions on impeachment.  We forced the Downing Street minutes into the news two-and-a-half years ago by flooding the media with phone calls, emails, and protests in their lobbies.  That needs to continue. 

 Taking the all-consuming focus off the elections that are over a year away would give us a healthier democracy, but we also need to think in terms of electoral threats, or we are taking our power off the table the same way Congress has.  We should promote primary challengers who use the issue of impeachment.  We should promote third party general election challengers who use the issue of impeachment.  Many are already doing so.  To refuse to make these challenges is to fail to grasp the gravity of our situation.  In terms of the presidential race, there is something we've not considered.  If every person who likes Dennis Kucinich but believes he can't win were to send him $100, he would win quite easily and influence Congress immediately. 

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DAVID SWANSON is a co-founder of After Downing Street, a writer and activist, and the Washington Director of Democrats.com. He is a board member of Progressive Democrats of America, and serves on the Executive Council of the Washington-Baltimore Newspaper Guild, TNG-CWA. He has worked as a newspaper reporter and as a communications director, with jobs including Press Secretary for Dennis Kucinich's 2004 presidential campaign, Media Coordinator for the International Labor Communications Association, and three years as Communications Coordinator for ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Swanson obtained a Master's degree in philosophy from the University of Virginia in 1997.

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My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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The single finest article I have read in my time here

I thought that every word glowed with the inner light of truth and moral outrage and  I applaud you most vigorously for writing them. Not only have you put the lie of a powerless Democratic Party to rest ( hello you defenders of democratic complicity and incompetence, where are your rebuttals to these truths? C'mon Andy, c'mon Steve you know who you are!) but you nailed the only real course of action open to us:

 

"We can shut down the city of Washington.  The next big march is on the 29th, following a camp in front of the Capitol from the 22nd to the 29th.  If we bring a million people and on the 29th refuse to leave, if we block the streets and fill the jails, all bets and probably all wars are off.  "

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2388 comments) on Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 10:56:02 AM
 


Geery lived off the grid for 15 years in an earth-sheltered, solar heated home, while his kids learned in school that solar energy isn't feasible. NAPTA hosts a page on Geery's foibles in education, and explains how he got his butt fired from a tenured teaching position. Here's a short clip of his most recent solar contraption; for more on that project, and Geery's contention that the Wright Brothers took a wrong turn, please visit his airship page (hyperblimp.com). Apparently, Geery is the only...

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Daniel GeeryGeery lived off the grid for 15 years in an earth-sheltered, solar heated home, while his kids learned in school that solar energy isn't feasible. NAPTA hosts a page on Geery's foibles in education, and explains how he got his butt fired from a tenured teaching position. Here's a short clip of his most recent solar contraption; for more on that project, and Geery's contention that the Wright Brothers took a wrong turn, please visit his airship page (hyperblimp.com). Apparently, Geery is the only...

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Thank you, David

David Swanson has consistently shown vast insight, extraordinary grasp of the facts, clarity that I see nowhere else, an unyielding tenacity to genuine human values, a profound understand of government process, courage, and a magical quality of appearing with ideas and even physically at critical times and places.

I recommend that when you see his byline, you read or at least skim the article. You won't be disappointed.

And if I ever see David's name on a ballot, rest assurred that he will get my vote. 

by Daniel Geery (26 articles, 55 quicklinks, 121 diaries, 660 comments) on Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 12:17:14 PM
 


Ernest is not a professional writer. Nor well educated in political affairs. However, he has uniquely experienced life styles of those who have little.
ErnestErnest is not a professional writer. Nor well educated in political affairs. However, he has uniquely experienced life styles of those who have little.

Well lenngray................................

I kinda look at it like this...............you should've thought about your familiy before you chose Congress as a career.............walking a straight line and upholding the Law are prerequisits of these type positions................I suggest if you can't take the heat...........then it's time you get out of the kitchen......................................no sympathy here.......

by Ernest (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 130 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 10:54:22 AM
 


Virginia Simson is a spiritual journalista/activist who runs a visionary planetary tutorial blogspot, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com as well as a blog on the uranium industry and depleted uranium at www.lowlevelradiation.blogspot.com. She feels that we must educate the young as to the real issues of the day - economics, clean energy, a drug free lifestyle, friendship and concern for the environment. We must plan for seven generations in the future. She unconditionally supports impeachment and...

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ladybroadoakVirginia Simson is a spiritual journalista/activist who runs a visionary planetary tutorial blogspot, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com as well as a blog on the uranium industry and depleted uranium at www.lowlevelradiation.blogspot.com. She feels that we must educate the young as to the real issues of the day - economics, clean energy, a drug free lifestyle, friendship and concern for the environment. We must plan for seven generations in the future. She unconditionally supports impeachment and...

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Thank you. Totally timely ...

 

 Something is up with posting OpEd News links all day today and so I've had to leave them out in order to post anything here .. 

 

The new nomination of the creepy Michael Mukasey has me riled. Maybe WORSE than Alito, which really got my goat back in the day .. I was posting everyone I knew to WARN Them what would happen in that case.

What annoys me is how hard it is to dig out anything about him, as the urls proliferate like mad about his Jose Padillo bs .. and I am positive there is much more . and we must make certain it ALL comes to light, as this appointment may be hard to stop without exposing his entire "polical" stance,l as the right wingers are already setting up scenario that says "he may be political, but he'll up hold the Constitution" .. As we can see, he put the last of the 10 civil rights up for cancellation ..

There appears to be nothing BuZh&Co. does that doesn't have a very hidden agenda. So what is it here ..?

Here comes the latest which ran in the daily kos, the link simply will not take ...



Now if this allegation below (no reason to think it isn't) is TRUE, it could well be an additional reasoon that Mukasey is the pick .. being PRO Labor racketering (He and his committee covered it up) which is USEFUL if the North American Union comes into being!!! He is accused of helping CONGRESS cover up dirty money ... (which could explain why Congress would let him in AND further the NWO agenda at the same time ...

QUESTION FOR EXAMINATION
Did the Mukasey Panel by and through their Summary Order 03-3117 filed
January 14, 2004 (attached) continue a systematic pattern to hide documented Judicial
Fraud and Extra Judicial Acts of Misconduct committed by District Judge Janet C. Hall
– doing so by intentionally avoiding the procedural process of a 28 U.S.C. 455 affidavit
and motion (the premise of the appeal) in order to circumvent the standard of review for
a 28 U.S.C. 455 motion, that being: "Impartiality might reasonably be questioned"?"

And this is from theguilianapapers. typepad.com about his son. .... interesting CONNECTION to the Guilani rightwingers. BINGO!!

Marc Mukasey - Partner at Bracewell & Giuliani where he "focuses on the defense of white collar criminal and regulatory cases." The firm also states: "Recently, Mr. Mukasey has been successful in persuading Department of Justice prosecutors to close an antitrust investigation against a major corporation without the filing of charges, and to drop securities fraud and mail fraud investigations of his business clients. He also successfully argued a downward departure motion that secured a favorable outcome for his client in the face of vigorous opposition by the Department of Justice." Marc's father, Michael Mukasey, former chief judge of the Southern District of New York, is also a member of Giuliani's Justice Advisory Committee.

And you may want to search antiwar dot ome showing how Mukasey's brand of justice shown in the Padilla case will totally decimate the US Bill of Rights .. again, the link won't take but go to antiwar dot come and look for horton and article Id 6919.

 

I've had trouble with OpEd News links all day, and so have my ebuddies.

If people find other interesting links on this, perhaps they could post them here iffen they can....? I meant to write on this topic for OpEd today .. as this is so highly troubling. More is going on than meets the eye ...

by ladybroadoak (37 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 390 comments) on Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 11:20:23 PM
 


Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.
Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.

#12

#12 - well, you see, we're (us so-called representatives of the people) all are kind of guilty because we really don't give a fat-rat's-ass about all you piss-ant peasants. You Cindy Sheehans, Michael Moores, Charlie Sheens, Sean Penns or any of you other David Swansons out there can think say or do anything as long as you don't get in our way. For we will kill you and get away with it. For you see we're nothing but shills for the ones that have their hands up our butts like so many hand puppets telling us what to say.

It took Monks burning themselves to death in front of the White House last time things got bad.

Things are much worse now.

Now what will it take?

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 1067 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 2:47:43 AM
 


KEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades.  He sees himself as a peace educator and have been   a promoter of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues."I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and publish.  I...

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ALONEKEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades.  He sees himself as a peace educator and have been   a promoter of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues."I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and publish.  I...

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In fact the threat of impeachment is usually enough to resto

This is an important quote. "In fact the threat of impeachment is usually enough to restore a level of justice and democracy in Washington, D.C.  A promise not to impeach, on the other hand, tends to encourage abuses of power and is itself an unconstitutional abuse of power."  I spent September 15 writing to 5 congressmen on behalf of the IMPEACH FOR PEACE campaign http://impeachforpeace.org/ImpeachNow.html.   I recommend we all write them and our own local congressmen and send letters to newspapers or put them on line--plus speak out in front of all local media!

by ALONE (114 articles, 1 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 252 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 3:44:33 AM
 


KEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades.  He sees himself as a peace educator and have been   a promoter of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues."I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and publish.  I...

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ALONEKEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades.  He sees himself as a peace educator and have been   a promoter of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues."I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and publish.  I...

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I POSTED THIS COMMENT TO MY LOCAL NEWSPAPER JUST NOW!

This morning I was reading David Swanson's brilliantly argued IS PEACE OR IMPEACHMENT POSSIBLE?--a piece on the ability, need and requirement for our congressmen to impeach the president and vice-president.  If interested, you can read it youself at OP-ED.

One of his better arguments by Swanson is that: "You won't hear much about it on the news, but a bill had been introduced in July to impeach Gonzales, and it was gaining support during the August recess.  In fact a bunch of Congress Members added their names to the list of cosponsors this month even though Gonzales had already announced his resignation.  This was not the first time that an effort to impeach helped force out an unjust attorney general.  An effort to impeach Richard Nixon forced him out as well.  An effort to impeach Harry Truman led to the Supreme Court checking his abuses of power.  In fact the threat of impeachment is usually enough to restore a level of justice and democracy in Washington, D.C.  A promise not to impeach, on the other hand, tends to encourage abuses of power and is itself an unconstitutional abuse of power."

I believe that if we don't stop this warring president and his side-kick or manipulator, Dick Cheney, our grandchildren and their grandchildren will cry out in dismay:  "Granddaddy, why didn't anyone stop those guys from lying, leading the country to their unthought out wars and destroying our precious consitution and country?"

ALL REAL AMERICANS AND TRUE CONGRESSMEN NEED TO GET ON THE BANDWAGON OF HISTORY--IMPEACH THE LIARS AND MANIPULATORS NOW!!!!

get everyone else in the USA to follow suit! 

 

by ALONE (114 articles, 1 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 252 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 4:13:01 AM
 


Just another lacky for Peace and Impeachment
LickBushJust another lacky for Peace and Impeachment

A Suggestion

Great Article, Thank you!

I have a suggestion that might, just might have an impact.  If we can spread the word,   "No Dem Donations in October"   To let these jokers know how many of us, simply want an investigation, if they are impeached, great,  but at least try.

 They are dying for $$$$$ if enough people STOP donating they will listen.

 

Cheers

 

by LickBush (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 5:15:22 PM
 

 

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