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July 8, 2008 at 09:47:55

Why is NATO in Afghanistan?

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But none of it explains how and why NATO got involved.

I wish those who comment would provide the documentation that legitimizes the NATO presence in Afghanistan.

And I don’t want to hear the annoying “ giving ‘em democracy and freedom” BS. Those who will make that stupid argument can explain why the USA/NATO haven’t invaded Burma/Junta and Zimbabwe/Mugabe to name just two criminal rogues who have killed, imprisoned and tortured thousands upon thousands of innocents.

Plus, the halls of democracy and justice stink of Bush-family pal and associate Hamid Karzai being elevated to the Afghani Presidency. NATO should perhaps start the democracy movement in America if that’s their game.

When NATO and the international community truly make it their business to apprehend and bring to justice criminal murdering despots, they might start with the arrest of President George W. Bush and his whole extended GOP gang of conspirators and enablers. There’s a lot more cause for that than there was for the invasion, occupation and overthrow of the legitimate government of Afghanistan and the murder of so many of its people.

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the heroin trade

didn't the Taliban nearly eradicate the heroin trade before we showed up?

btw, what a terrific bio.

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by Rady Ananda (127 articles, 290 quicklinks, 37 diaries, 1130 comments) on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 at 9:49:28 AM

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The Taliban asked to see the evidence against bin Laden.

IIRC the Taliban offered to turn bin Laden over to a neutral third country, if the U.S. would provide evidence of his involvement with 911. And of course the U.S. has no such evidence, so no evidence was forthcoming.

by Harold Smith (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 532 comments) on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 at 10:42:46 AM

Stanimal is ???

I hear cries for freedom elsewhere, while the US becomes less so. I hear support for free markets, then demanding a bailout due to incompetence.
I roll my eyes at those that accuse others being oppressed while the US has and still continues to the same and much worse. Laughing at pinheads who purchase and profit from those they curse.

Every time I return to visit I see a country I no longer recognize. A shredded Constitution, a spineless Congress ...

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StanimalStanimal is ???

I hear cries for freedom elsewhere, while the US becomes less so. I hear support for free markets, then demanding a bailout due to incompetence.
I roll my eyes at those that accuse others being oppressed while the US has and still continues to the same and much worse. Laughing at pinheads who purchase and profit from those they curse.

Every time I return to visit I see a country I no longer recognize. A shredded Constitution, a spineless Congress ...

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It's the few

"Coalition of the Willing", to still be hoodwinked into Bu$h & Co's War of Terror campaign.

The heroin trade re-resurgence is one of many reasons the west still has a strategic need for Afghanistan. This is one of many ways the CIA and other governmental agencies generate income while following the trail drug trades generate.

Through its territory must run the pipelines needed to carry Central-Asian crude to western ports, via Pakistan.

It is the vital link between the ME and China which must have its interests kept in check by the bungling antics of the Bu$h cabal.

NATO did not anticipate the guise on which it operates to be sacrificed for chicken-hawk convicted substance abusers War Criminal antics like Dybua and Buckshot Dick have caused.

by Stanimal (0 articles, 4 quicklinks, 25 diaries, 682 comments) on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 at 1:15:55 PM

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Coalition of the willing

I am reminded of the first "coalition of the willing" that never materialized and was an American disaster.

It was Bush Sr.'s "humanitarian mission" to Somalia, Black Hawk Down, where dead Americans were dragged through the streets. He initiated the USA's intrusion there, a few weeks after he was dis-elected and disgraced.

He alleged that a huge coalition of the willing were going to join the USA in Somalia, but there never was such a coalition. It was a lie.

Bill Clinton and America had Somalia hung around their neck the day he took office. And they wound up getting some Americans killed when the American military failed badly, trying to make some rational sense out of the mission the lame-duck evil SOB Bush Sr sent them on.

Just like his son's two wars, it was never clear what the mission was in Somalia or how it was to be achieved and a lot of shady lies and alterior motives were apparent. And Americans died for an unclear cause and reason; and it cost the American taxpayers a fortune besides.

I firmly believe it was pure vindictiveness. Bush Sr never went on a humanitarin mission in his life. Daddy Bush got his revenge on the American people and Bill Clinton for riding him out of the White House. The Bush's are very very evil people. They deserve no honor and status in American history.

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by Kevin Sysyn (12 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 17 comments) on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 at 5:47:00 PM

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NATO

NATO is a terrorist organization used by the western imperialists.

by Ty (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 888 comments) on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 at 5:37:48 PM

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I see a long string of offense to peace

Somalia is mentioned. That crisis was handed off to Clinton by the first President Bush. And the second President Bush will hand it over to the next president. In the same way, Afghanistan has been a target for Russian/American adventures for years.

How we call umbrella organizations, such as NATO, is only a tactic to realign old imperial boundaries. It's hard to say how member nations of such a group will react. For example, Canada at one time was thinking of pulling out of Afghanistan. Is that a sign of less involvement in NATO?

"North Atlantic," as a wider involvement in divvying up the riches of underdeveloped nations for the use by developed ones, needs a new description. GRAP might be a good title: Global Reach Against People.

by Margaret Bassett (33 articles, 2024 quicklinks, 30 diaries, 1353 comments) on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 at 12:19:06 PM