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September 30, 2007 at 08:22:12

Is Osama bin Laden Dead? Part 1: December is for Dying

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I mean, this is a man who has a number of health problems, apart from the fact that anybody running around the Afghan mountains is not going to be in great shape." (Reference: click here)

Exactly what were his health problems? American government sources contradict each other. On the one hand, CNN could report an anonymous senior American official saying that:

[U.S. intelligence is that bin Laden needs (kidney) dialysis every three days and "it is fairly obvious that that could be an issue when you are running from place to place, and facing the idea of needing to generate electricity in a mountain hideout."

Other U.S. officials contradicted the reports of bin Laden's health problems, saying there is "no evidence" the suspected terrorist mastermind has ever suffered kidney failure or required kidney dialysis. The officials called such suggestions a "recurrent rumor."] (Source: click here)

General Musharaff, with the Pakistani Military Intelligence Service (ISI) at his disposal, definitely believed that bin Laden was suffering from kidney failure, as noted in the same article:"I think now, frankly, he is dead for the reason he is a ... kidney patient," Gen. Pervez Musharraf said on Friday in an interview with CNN. Musharraf said Pakistan knew bin Laden took two dialysis machines into Afghanistan. "One was specifically for his own personal use," he said.] (ibid, Jan 18, 2002)

Meanwhile, French Intelligence was reported to have this to say in this following excerpt:

CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July

French report claims terrorist leader stayed in Dubai hospital

Anthony Sampson

Thursday November 1, 2001

The Guardian

Two months before September 11 Osama bin Laden flew to Dubai for 10 days for treatment at the American Hospital, where he was visited by the local CIA agent, according to the French newspaper Le Figaro.

The disclosures are known to come from French intelligence which is keen to reveal the ambiguous role of the CIA, and to restrain Washington from extending the war to Iraq and elsewhere. Bin Laden is reported to have arrived in Dubai on July 4 from Quetta in Pakistan with his own personal doctor, nurse and four bodyguards, to be treated in the urology department. While there he was visited by several members of his family and Saudi personalities, and the CIA.

The CIA chief was seen in the lift, on his way to see Bin Laden, and later, it is alleged, boasted to friends about his contact. He was recalled to Washington soon afterwards.

Intelligence sources say that another CIA agent was also present; and that Bin Laden was also visited by Prince Turki al Faisal, then head of Saudi intelligence, who had long had links with the Taliban, and Bin Laden. Soon afterwards Turki resigned, and more recently he has publicly attacked him in an open letter: "You are a rotten seed, like the son of Noah".

The American Hospital in Dubai emphatically denied that Bin Laden was a patient there.

Washington last night also denied the story...............(Source: click here)

But is Washington simply putting up a smoke screen here, especially when the French report raises some monstrous questions as to why the CIA would be meeting with bin Laden a couple of months before  9/11, especially when he was already a wanted man with a huge price put on his head by the U.S. for bombing two American embassies in Africa? Here is another article excerpt that backs up the Guardian account:

The CIA met Bin Laden while undergoing treatment at an American Hospital last July in Dubai

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ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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Dead or Alive, does it really matter?

Do you really believe that bin Laden matters much? He was, I concede, a focal point for half wits and rednecks hatreds, and a symbol of a war for those who love to hate.

Osama bin Laden, dead or alive, was merely a convenience to the neocons, who had been working towards a permanent American military presence in the Middle East for decades. AlQaeda will endure the death of one of its financiers, as it has many such whose wealth exceeds the gross national product of several nations. The USA has diligently and purposively fomented class and religious warfare in that region of the world to its own purpose and whether one figure, however central, lives or dies is not relevant.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2388 comments) on Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 9:42:22 AM
 


Student of history, religion, exoteric and esoteric, the Humanities in general and advocate for peace, justice and the unity of humankind, not through force, but through self-realization and mutual respect.
Mac McKinneyStudent of history, religion, exoteric and esoteric, the Humanities in general and advocate for peace, justice and the unity of humankind, not through force, but through self-realization and mutual respect.

Deflating the Archetype

What is driving masses of American people to continue to swallow the War on Terror is the stranglehold of this archetype of evil on their their psyches, just as the Nazis nourished the Jew as the archetype of evil. If we can deflate this archetype, Americans will begin to free their minds more and more. Right now America is lurching from bogey man to bogey man irrationally, emotionally with no engagement of the critical faculties. Every revelation of truth is a step in the right direction.

by Mac McKinney (42 articles, 60 quicklinks, 142 diaries, 966 comments) on Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 10:01:51 AM
 


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Gallaher10 year Navy veteran,former Federal employee with various agencies,

I could be Osama.

It is funny. My mother in law asked me with concerned look on her face if I had seen the latest Osama bin Laden tape when it came out.  I assured her, "With enough makeup the guys from Hollywood could make me look like Osama bin Laden. The government is just trying to scare you. I used to put out false information like this for your government when I was in the military."

by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 530 comments) on Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 6:11:05 PM
 

 

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