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It troubles me to think that Americans watching the films of the towers, for example " that they are unable to perceive that those are buildings BLOWING UP! Those are not buildings falling down. A building falling down looks totally different from a building blowing up. And yet " the government tells them, "Oh, these buildings are falling down." So they say, "Oh, the buildings are falling down. The government says they are falling down." With their own eyes they can't even see a building blowing up and say, "Hey, that building isn't falling down. It's blowing up."

So, all these things sort of led me to the conclusion, which was the main point of my article - not that I'm stopping writing - that's not the point of my article. The point of my article was that, hey, look, truth has disappeared. No one can recognize it. No one respects it. No one demands it.

You know, we all know, by now, that the Bush administration orchestrated these wars and yet no one is held accountable. We know, by now, the Bush people knew there were no weapons of mass destruction, and yet they said there were, so they could go to war. If they'll orchestrate a war, which has killed huge numbers of totally innocent people, why wouldn't they orchestrate 9/11?

And then people say, "Oh, the government never kills its own people!" Well, they most certainly do. They killed them at Waco. They killed the Branch Davidians. Back in the Kennedy years, they had Operation Northwoods, which called for shooting Americans down in the streets in Washington and Miami, and blowing up boatloads of Cuban refugees, and fabricating airliner hijackings and crashes so they could blame Castro, invade the island, and have regime change.

And this isn't a conspiracy theory. This is an official government document approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, released to the public by the Warren Commission investigating Kennedy's death. It's available online. It's in the National Security Archives. It's a real document, that showed the United States government was prepared to kill its own people, in order to blame Castro and invade the island.

http://www.net4truthusa.com/operationnorthwoods.htm

So, why is it we think, "Oh, they'd never do 9/11?" Of course they would.
They the special interests that control everything - have an agenda. They want to get on with it. So, people just can't put two-and-two together.


And I also found, for example, that it's important to a lot of people on the left, emotionally important, to believe that the Muslims did 9/11, because they want it to be "blow-back" for American mistreatment of the Muslim people and states. In other words, our corrupt foreign policy provoked these people, and they struck back at us and gave us what we deserve. It is important to a lot of people on the left to believe that. They want to believe that "our victims" struck back at us.


Rob Kall:
You're talking about, also, Israel in this theory, right?

Paul Craig Roberts:
Well, you know, Israel certainly has an agenda, and it's to steal the entirety of Palestine and Southern Lebanon. They've been doing it for years, and nothing stops them. It just gets worse and worse. If you look at the maps of Palestine over the years that are available, you can see that it has just about disappeared. And yet, most Americans think, "Oh, the poor Israelis. They're totally innocent, peace-loving people, and they are beset by these awful Palestinian terrorists who are always blowing up Israelis." People have no idea of what's going on. Indeed, there are a lot of Israeli peace groups who publish stories and give the true information, and it doesn't go anywhere. And Haaretz, the newspaper there, if you read that as I do ". It is a powerful critic of the Israeli policy, and if anybody in the United States said anything like what Haaretz says, they would be probably be damned forever as anti-Semites, or they might even be arrested for "hate crimes."

http://www.haaretz.com/

It's just hard to see, so truth is just not available to people, and they can't recognize it when it is, and that's why I said that truth is dead, and when truth is dead, liberty is dead. And that's the point of my article, not that I'm frustrated, and I'm going to break my pen and not write anymore. I just came to the conclusion that the whole effort was futile.

Now, I did receive about four thousand e-mails from readers asking me to reconsider, but I'm of the opinion that the die is cast. The American and Israeli militarism now are going to run their course. There's nothing that can be done [or is going to happen, that will change this] other than just the collapse of the dollar. The dollar may simply collapse, in which case American militarism will collapse, because there will be no way to finance it. Just in the last day or two, I saw an article by Dave Lindorff it may have been on your site, I don't know - but he says that 53% of the tax revenues goes to the military.

http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/?q=node/507

And I think what he means is, it's even worse than that. It's more than half of the federal budget - if you add up all the aspects of the military machine, not just the direct Pentagon budget more than half of the government's budget is spent on the military. And yet, I get letters from progressives which say, "Why are you attacking the government? The government does all these good things for poor people. You're just against the poor."

Well, what does the government do for poor people? The amount of money it spends helping anybody other than the powerful, rich organized interests is infinitesimal. It doesn't spend anything on them. But, it spends $1,600,000,000,000 a year in one way or another on military activities. And so, all these people who run around supporting the government " they are supporting this whole militarist regime.

Rob Kall:
That's a bi-partisan thing, isn't it?

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I feel his pain... by Sherry Mann on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 8:04:47 AM
Roberts was/is one fine example of Humanity by Philip Dennany on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 3:28:23 PM
Thumbs up brother... by Sherry Mann on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 7:44:36 PM
Calling the US a police state while supporting Ahmadinegad by Abbas Sadeghian, Ph.D. on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 9:36:51 PM
Happy to hear again from him by Debbie S on Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 7:03:43 PM
John 15:13 by Sherry Mann on Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 7:51:51 PM