Let's get this discussion started....

Let me start here by suggesting that, even while many of us are quite understandably discouraged, the fact is that ultimately our voice will count. The reason is simple: Politicians rely on our vote to maintain their seat in office.

Have you ever noted how politicians reverse their positions 180 degrees when MOveon.org sends in signatures by the millions? Perhaps the voices of the few won't count, but the voices of the masses surely will. (Otherwise, why would politicians bother to manipulate public opinion? OF COURSE what we think and want matters!)

Thus...

If ENOUGH of us put pressure on Congress to impeach, telling them that we will vote them out of office if they don't uphold, protect and defend the Constitution....and American lives and lives internationally......then they will simply have to act. That is, if enough of us weigh in.

It's only if (as most of us understandably do) we collectively say that "it won't matter anyway, so why bother?" then they will literally get away with murder.

Please pass word along, urging friends to contact House Reps and Judiciary Committee members in support of impeachment! Please write the facts in letters to the editor, not just your opinion, which would only be blown off. But if facts convince people, things can turn around. Dynamo, let's go!

Thank you.

by Kathryn Smith (97 articles, 2 quicklinks, 42 diaries, 410 comments) on Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 4:37:51 PM
 

USE THEIR OWN LAWS AGAINST THEM

I have been saaying for a couple of months now but most of the time my blog gets shut down so no one hears, but here are my thoughts.

Pelosi, Conyers and Waxman are quite simply to be charged with one of their own favorite things.  CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS.

Are they not guilty of just that?  Are not Conyers and Waxman failing to fulfill their judiciary responsibilities for the committiees they chair by not allowing the impeachment filings present to them allowed to go forward?  Should they both not be found in contemt for allowing the impeachment of Cheney to languish on a shelf for more than a year without any action?

The same holds true for Pelosi, but she can be VACATED from her position as speaker for simply refusing to move the impeachment proceedings along.  She has NOT the right to interfere in the way that she has.  She has intervened in a LEGAL process in an ILLEGAL manor using personal rather than legal procedures as she should have.  By simply saying from day one and repeating time and again that "impeeachment is off the table", end of story, close the book now go to sleep, she has departed from precident and decimated the fragile check and balance system that was in place.

If this was or is the case now knowing all of the horrendus things/crimes the Mr. Kunich so professionally laid out over 35 times the other night and Mrs. Pelosi still refuses to act, my question to her is simply, why did you allow Bill Clinton to be impeached over nothing?

by alan1111 (0 articles, 2 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 5 comments) on Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 9:47:37 PM
 

IMPEACH ALL FEDERAL OFFICIALS WHO VIOLATE THEIR OATH

A more direct and less convuluted approach is to impeach her for violating her oath of office.  All federal elected officials, as well as all federal judges, take an oath to preserve and defend the constitution upon taking office.  If Nancy Pelosi has not only refused to start impeachment in the face of the massive constitutional violations of Bush and Cheney, but has used her power to squelch others attempts to impeach, she has clearly violated her oath to preserve and defend the constitution.

In fact, we should use impeachment to make a clean sweep of the federal misgovernment.  The constitutionnal violations of Bush and Cheney are so clear that all House members who won't support impeachment are violating their oath of office.  All members of the Senate who wont vote to convict once the House votes for impeachment will also be in violation of their oath of office.  And while we're at it, we should also impeach all the Supreme Court Injustices who ordered us to stop counting the votes in 2000 and appointed Bush.  Their actions was clearly in violation of the oath to preserve and defend the constitution so it is an urgent necessity to impeach them.  And the Supreme Court Injustices who voted to uphold Bush's unconstitutional actions, along with all the lower court judges who did the same, have also violated their oath to preserve and defend the constitution, so there is an equally urgent necessity to impeach them.

So write to your Congresspeople and tell them that they are violating their oath of office if they don't support impeachment.  And another thing I have wondered about: There was a movement to have people send impeachment memorials to Congress.  Is it possible to send similar memorials not only for Bush and Cheney but all the federal officials who are violating their oath of office?

Robert Halfhill

by rhalfhill (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 307 comments) on Monday, June 16, 2008 at 12:40:21 PM
 

Revolution

The only way to solve this problem is revolution but people are way too mind controled to do this. The forces of Evil already own this planet, its over, they won.

by Sylvain Pimpare (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 28 comments) on Monday, June 16, 2008 at 2:18:45 AM
 

Time for a Reality Check on Impeachment...

When... Ohhhhh, WHEN -- are you going to wake up and face the reality that the REAL reason that impeachment of Bush and Cheney is "off the table" is because the Democrats DON'T HAVE THE VOTES IN THE SENATE TO CONVICT AND REMOVE THEM FROM OFFICE???

Reality check: There are only 48 Democrats in the Senate. There are 49 Republicans and two independents.

One of those two independents -- Joe Leiberman of Connecticut, who's already campaigning for John McCain -- has repeatedly threatened to DEFECT TO THE GOP if the House Democrats pass impeachment articles against Bush and Cheney.

Leiberman's defection would THROW CONTROL OF THE SENATE BACK TO THE REPUBLICANS, with Cheney casting the tie-breaking 51st vote and the GOP taking back all Senate committee chairmanships.

Faced with this cold, hard political reality, perhaps NOW you can understand why impeachment is "off the table."

WE CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE THE SENATE BACK IN REPUBLICAN HANDS BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION -- especially with rumors flying about a possible Supreme Court vacancy (Namely, the retirement of 88-year-old Justice John Paul Stevens) when the justices finish their 2007-08 term at the end of June.  

by Skeeter Sanders (32 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 78 comments) on Monday, June 16, 2008 at 8:51:18 AM