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July 2, 2007 at 10:05:31

LLY gets shocking (!!??) court decision

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This so clearly went outside THE LAW. What is to prevent this happening with other toxic drugs? Who is watching out for vulnerable populations in this drive for ever larger profitability by Big Pharma ...? How badly do things have to get before something gets done?

3. What do the internal memos at Eli Lilly say about all this? I mean, surely, some scenario was drawn up about the pros and cons of this "plan." Some "marketing genius" was in charge of overseeing what happened. Do they give a test to ensure that each person coming into Lilly is psychopath/sociopath or what? The facts must have been available to someone in the organization before this District Cout decision came down.

The investigator in me wants to know, what were they THINKING!!??

4. Will investors finally stop investing in this company?

I don't know the portfolio turnover ratio on LLY stock, but I know MY MONEY wouldn't be invested in this gang of drug mobsters!

How many found themselves uncomfortable at the AGM during the past few years?

5. Will doctors finally wise up?

They, and they alone, enjoy a patient/doctor confidentiality -- any misuse of this is cause for grave concern. If you can't trust your own doctor to be wise and willing to NOT engage in the use of medications that are definitely harmful, who CAN you trust? This is particuarly true when your MENTAL HEALTH is under the weather.

Why go to a doctor at all if they refuse to consider the potential harm a mis-prescription can cause? I hope that all those free golf shirts and other momentos of time spent with Lilly sales reps made at least THEM feel better about themselves. But I'll bet a whole mess of zyprexa freebies and so on have made their way from medical offices and homes into landfills FINALLY. Too guilt inducing to look at Lilly bootie these days.

I have one fine doctor; many do not. And she helped me get my son OFF zyprexa, prescribed by a Big Institutional doctor, using a SAFE protocol. We came up with a great "get off zyprexa" plan and passed it along to other physicians.

But NOT before his heart gave out. As I sat in the emergency room (hoping he would live through what was happening), I thought not one of the doctors and nurses who prescribed and/or administered this drug were present to have a look at their handiwork.

I did not wait and sit around TRUSTING my son's institutional doctor - I went in and complained about my son's prescription, and said I do not want to worry about my son's losing one limb, then another limb, and then another while on this drug -- three months before he was hospitalized with hypertension and a (covered up) stroke. Pancreatitis was my MAIN concern, what happened was even worse, actually.

She told me that was better than his current symptomology. That was untrue then, and it's untrue NOW. The truth is the truth. That drug had us both "paranoid". - for good reason. Any person raising the truth about this drug was psychopathologized by the medical profession who dished it out. Will this stop now?

I still have scars from the "looks that kill" hostility this doctor blew my way ... just for the record.

She was WRONG. Can she still justify her position NOW?

6. Are we to be shocked when a decent ruling is made by a court?

This is the ONLY outcome this sad case could have, actually.

The widespread misapplication of zyprexa has become clear to anyone who has come close to it.

To my mind, what was shocking was to write to the NYT during their series on diabetes (their cause of last year) to inform that they were missing the OBVIOUS.

The cases of advanced diabetes were in those taking antipsychotics for depression - it wasn't the lack of nearby grocery stores and/or poor eating habits, as they so boldly contended. Patients BECAME psychotic and incapable of self care AFTER their new prescriptions were in place.

Now that the NYT has finally seen the light, it wasn't too long before the legal "pro"fession began to really act up about the zyprexa metabolic issue (still overlooking the heart effects issue, imho; it's still under the radar).

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Danny Haszard Bangor Maine Counter-cult educator
Danny HaszardDanny Haszard Bangor Maine Counter-cult educator

Zyprexa zenith to zonked

Well done Virginia good to go bravo!
Do the right thing Lilly!

Where is the evidence that Lilly has actually paid out $1.2 billion?
The shareholders are suing over the zyprexa promotion too.
Zyprexa off label promotion scandal is all over the news now.
Lilly drug reps are alleged to have called their marketing ploy,"Viva zyprexa".
There are now 8 states (and counting) going after Lilly for fraud and restitution.
Zyprexa promotion

Eli Lilly makes billions on diabetes treatment and also gets $4.2 billion a year in sales of their biggest cash cow Zyprexa which has been scandalized as *causing* diabetes as a major side effect.
In 2004, the American Diabetes Association found that Zyprexa was more likely to cause diabetes than many other antipsychotic drugs.
Zyprexa which is only FDA approved for schizophrenia (.5-1% of pop) and some bipolar (2% pop) and then an even smaller percentage of theses two groups.

Don't shoot the messenger sue for peace!
Notice-however one tries to assign guilt the fact is that in my typical town doctors have stopped prescribing zyprexa except as a PRN for acute cases.
This is because of all the bad PR associated with the product the patients reject it too, when they or their family log on and read pages like this one.In my case I have a website and over 20,000 pages up exposing zyprexa.
I took it for 4 years 1996-2000 (before the black box warning) at $250 a month co-pay.I got a shocking BG (blood sugar) of 500 in 2000.My doctors say it WAS the zyprexa that caused it.I have NO diabetes in my family.
Moreover,I was given it off-label for PTSD.
I appreciate that Lilly apologist are concerned about the vitality of your company,but it is Lilly that is bragging about a $1.2 billion dollar settlement and then stonewall true victims like me.
Daniel Haszard www. zyprexa-victims.com

by Danny Haszard (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 53 comments) on Monday, July 2, 2007 at 10:27:15 AM

Virginia Simson is a spiritual journalista/activist who runs a visionary planetary tutorial blogspot, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com as well as a blog on the uranium industry and depleted uranium at www.lowlevelradiation.blogspot.com. She feels that we must educate the young as to the real issues of the day - economics, clean energy, a drug free lifestyle, friendship and concern for the environment. We must plan for seven generations in the future. She unconditionally supports impeachment and...

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ladybroadoakVirginia Simson is a spiritual journalista/activist who runs a visionary planetary tutorial blogspot, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com as well as a blog on the uranium industry and depleted uranium at www.lowlevelradiation.blogspot.com. She feels that we must educate the young as to the real issues of the day - economics, clean energy, a drug free lifestyle, friendship and concern for the environment. We must plan for seven generations in the future. She unconditionally supports impeachment and...

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Danny we have worked long and hard

for this to come to pass. To get rid of this drug, we have to make its prescription absolutely socially unacceptable. And the truth do tell, we are making it so.

Bit I hope that this goes the whole hog and the drug is finally recalled. Getting financial relief for victims (unfortunately for far too many it is too late), and their families isn't going to do it - not for me at least.

This District Court decision has made it possible for those in no fault countries like New Zealand to SUE. RAH! Class action suits will bring a global affair, not something the FDA can overlook, turning the other way as the damage is done. What has already been pointed out to me today is that people who are now prediabetic or maybe worse, got so many meds prescribed as this waffled on, it is hard to point a direct finger at zyprexa .... and it got prescribed for nearly every existing mental condition, including sleep disorders! Even getting a proper diagnosis became an abnormal condition.

Perhaps the stock will really fall. I hope not before the payouts. These guys are so devious and underhanded, who knows? Maybe they planned it that way. Afterall, as the payouts piled up, zypexa sales revenues continued to soar EVEN AFTER the sales began to fall; they simply jacked up the price some more. Profitability continued to climg. I've heard it went up to $6 a pill; here in Ontario, Olanzapine sells for a more reasonable 60 cents or so. And someone is making rare profits off that, too!

These were just preliminary comments. I didn't have time to think it all through - just a heap of moral questions popped into my mind. I am sure in days to come, some more material "will come through" to me, actually. But then I was never guilty of prescribing it to anyone!! and did have to duck and cover from myself. The APA has plenty of questions to ask ITSELF.

There are no days off for good results in this battle royale, Danny, and you know that, too. PAY UP! GET RID OF THIS DRUG! Get the FDA to protect people PROMPTLY. Get Big Pharma out of the "education" of doctors racket; CME exam courses must be monitored.

Last point of the day -- all these dis-eases and true mental and emotional imbalances existed before in history. What did people do before Big Pharma? How can we reclaim and institute real healing modalities that work without harm to individuals and the conscience? What mental illnesses are invented for profit? What must we do to make this a fair and equitable society? This zyprexa case raises many horrible, but necessary questions.

In sisterhood, Danny, and BLESS YOU.

Virginia

by ladybroadoak (38 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 391 comments) on Monday, July 2, 2007 at 3:06:09 PM

10 year Navy veteran,former Federal employee with various agencies,
Gallaher10 year Navy veteran,former Federal employee with various agencies,

Thanks for the info.

I never have trusted any of the drug companies. If what the judge has ruled stands on appeal, LLY will go down very hard. And yes the law suits will fly. I don't personally know of anyone that has taken this drug. I'm sorry this company has harmed you but I know their are some smart attorneys out there that are going to hang this company out to dry.

by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 608 comments) on Tuesday, July 3, 2007 at 2:00:41 AM