On the other hand if he does rein Hillary -- and you gotta know the media would find out about it -- then the real "fun"would begin. Bill would be furious. (Red-face furious) He would start talking to reporters "on background." Bill would again allege that Obama had won by "running a sexist campaign" and was now continuing that practice by "muzzling the first female Vice President of the United States of America."
Even if Obama laid down the law, telling Hillary she had to toe the administration line henceforth, what do you think would really happen? Imagine Hillary R. Clinton spending the next four years as an obedient junior partner, while Obama harvests all the attention.
Try to imagine that. Oh hell, go ahead, just try. I dare you.
“The zeal which begins with hypocrisy must conclude in treachery; at first it deceives, at last it betrays” ( Francis Bacon)
Stephen Pizzo has been published everywhere from The New York Times to Mother Jones magazine. His book, Inside Job: The Looting of America's Savings and Loans, was nominated for a Pulitzer.
imagine President Obama, Vice President Clinton, and Vice Vice President Clinton. How dumb do we think that Obama is?
Obama needs a more centrist vice to sway Conservatives if he wants a sure win. I personally would not vote for him if he brings Hillary along for the ride, after all of the bashing back and forth and the hundreds of hours explaining their differences... if that happens, I say "liars all."
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Mike Folkerth (120 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 566 comments)
on Friday, May 23, 2008 at 2:30:32 PM
We all know from history how often the fascists, and the right, including Republicans resort to assassination to get rid of their opponents...
Hillary would provide great "insurance" for President Obama - since then Republicans would know out front what eliminating President Obama would result in...
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mrk * (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 299 comments)
on Friday, May 23, 2008 at 6:55:23 PM
...the same setup that got JFK drilled in Dallas by LBJ's friendlies.
Nope. Not gonna happen. Edwards is going to play a role here, but I'm not sure if it's as VP or AG.
Hillary and the Clinton legacy needs to be disposed of. It's unfortunate and unfair that Bill will end up carrying the full weight of the vast right wing conspiracy, but, as you quote Disraeli, "there is no honor in politics." He should have put his ambition in "park" and done the right thing when the spooks started offing people with impunity. But he didn't. He made a pact with the devil and that, my friends, is that. Flush twice, it's a long way to the Food Court.
Hillary will very likely run as a third party candidate. She will be doing the grunt work for what is inevitable, but, again, she will be torn apart.
Her best move, believe it or not, is to be McCain's VP selection. She and Bill are Republicans, anyway.
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Richard Volaar (24 articles, 0 quicklinks, 117 diaries, 368 comments)
on Friday, May 23, 2008 at 8:09:19 PM
Oh Man! You are SO totally correct about that! I remember thinking that exact thing when Bill ran for office the first time. "This guy is just Republican light."
The political landscape in this country has been tilted SO FAR to the right that what was once considered a moderate viewpoint is now called "extreme left" by the so-called "mainstream" and the media.
If FDR were alive today he would be considered a "radical" or a socialist. And a progressive - looks lke an anarchist.
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mrk * (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 299 comments)
on Friday, May 23, 2008 at 8:30:46 PM
After her last blunder, one can only conclude that HC is her own worst ennemy; her political CV demonstrates a pattern of poor judgement when making decisions, and consistently shooting herself in the foot with unthinking stupid statements .
I will question Obama's judgement too if he casts her as VP; but somehow I think he is too clever to do that.
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francine (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 370 comments)
on Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 8:46:46 AM
And I hope this last blunder will sway the undecided delegates in Obama's favor; at least it should, if they have half a brain. This agony has lasted long enough.
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francine (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 370 comments)
on Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 11:14:45 AM
Hillary hasn't "slipped up" just once about the assassination comment. She mentioned it in Indiana, California, and South Dakota. One doesn't have to be a detective to know what flows thru her mind.
Dead ppl have surrounded the Clintons. Arkancide to DC...ppl die when they are around. Remember now, Bill CLinton is buddy buddy with Geo. "Herbert Walker" Bush (goes deep and way back); therefore, to have Hillary as his Veep, Obama would be dealing with Clinton, Clinton and Bush(elder) and all those that tie in with them. That would make Obama a tool or strawman. I'll copy and paste a list of dead ppl that surrounded the Clintons.............
Here is a list of DEAD CLINTON BODYGUARDS: Maj. Gen. William Robertson,Deputy Commanding General, V Corps, Europe. Col William Densberger,V Corps Chief of Operations and Plan. Col. Robert Kelly,V Corps Chief of Intelligence. Spec. Gary Rhodes, Crew Chief died: 2/23/93 - All were killed when their Army UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter crashed in Wiesbaden, Germany. No cause was ever determined. - V Corps figured prominently in the US Bosnia-Serbia peacekeeping operations, along with the carrier Roosevelt. These men, and 8 others associated with Clinton's visit to the Roosevelt all died within 4 months of each other. *** Steve Willis, Clinton bodyguard Robert Williams, Clinton bodyguard Conway LeBleu, Clinton bodyguard Todd McKeehan, Clinton bodyguard died: 2/28/93 - "executed" by gunfire in the Waco, Texas assault on the Branch Davidians. - All four were examined by a "private doctor" and died from nearly identical wounds to the left temple, so-called execution style. According to Linda Thompson, videotapes and other evidence indicates that none died from guns fired by Branch Davidians. In his address to employees of the Treasury Department in the Cash Room on March 18, 1993, Clinton said: "My prayers and I'm sure yours are still with the families of all four of the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents who were killed in WACO *** Todd McKeehan and Conway Le Bleu of New Orleans; Steve Willis of Houston, and Robert Williams from my hometown of Little Rock. Three of those four were assigned to my security during the course of the primary or general election." However, the Little Rock, Arkansas office of the ATF confirmed that all four had at one point been bodyguards for Bill Clinton, three while he was campaigning for President, and while he had been governor of Arkansas. In the videotape by the American Justice Federation, "WACO II, the Big Lie Continues," Linda Thompson demonstrates that 15 shots were fired from six separate weapons into and out of a room into which three of the four agents had entered through a window. Four of these shots were fired from an overhead helicopter, an agent outside the window, firing an MP5 submachine gun, who also threw in a concussion grenade, fired at least two shots into the room. In the autopsies of these agents, three had virtually identical wounds to the left temple that exited through the rear of the head, execution-style. A "private physician" treated all four. ***Alan G. Whicher Oversaw Clinton's Secret Service detail. In October 1994 Whicher was transferred to the Secret Service field office in the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. Whatever warning was given to the BATF agents in that building did not reach Alan Whicher, whom died in the bomb blast of April 19th 1995. *** Cpl Eric S. Fox. Died 3/22/99. Crewman for Marine One, the Presidential Helicopter. Shot in the head, and declared a suicide. *** Five Navy aviators, Clinton bodyguards/escorts (names not determined) died: 3/26/93 - all died in a crash of an E-2C Hawkeye in Italy. The crash occurred shortly after the plane was "waved off" from a landing attempt on the Carrier Roosevelt, due to a "foul deck". - All five men had been Clinton's escorts during Clinton's visit to the Roosevelt 2 weeks prior. Three other men, who had flown Clinton to the Roosevelt for that visit also died later in a helicopter crash. *** A more complete list of "Arkancides" is available at - www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html
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shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 393 comments)
on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 10:44:05 AM
I have no doubt that should Hillary become VP, one example she would study especially thoroughly is how Lt. Governor of New York Mario Cuomo bumped Hugh Carey from the top of the ticket, in 1982 I think it was.
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Maxwell (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 275 comments)
on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 7:57:47 AM
Obama and the American people will never be lucky enough to see such a proven American leader as Hillary Clinton in the Vice Presidents role.
We as democrats can only blame ourselves. We allowed the media whores who have always hated the Clintons to post every little thing that the Clintons did wrong that morning and pound it at you 24/7.
We're just to dumb to know how we're being used.
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drasile (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 77 comments)
on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 at 1:39:58 PM
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