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Tag(s): 2008 Presidential Debates; ABC News; Barack Obama; Charles-Gibson; George Stephanopolous; Hillary Clinton; Media Bias; Presidential Campaign; Presidential Campaign Democratic; Sean Hannity; Television
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April 18, 2008 at 12:25:58

A Presidential Debate, Not! Not Debatable Is That We Were Treated Like Brain Dead Chumps

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The right wing slime machine already has the Swift Boating ads written, the ad agencies and actors are hired. All that’s left for them to do is fill in the Democratic candidate’s name.

To say that any of these debates are debates is highly questionable. A real debate is when two people sit across a table from each other and discuss their differences on the issues, issues that are of vital concern to the voting public, not the twaddle that’s of no import.

It’s not like either of these candidates have huge character flaw or misdeed in their pasts.

It’s not like either dodged military service; or disappeared during the last year of their military service; or had their daddy buy them a bogus Ivy League degree; or mowed down a close friend with a car; or shot a friend in the face; or did more than experiment with drugs; or was a lush who never got help to resolve the whys of why he was a bottle-diver; or arrested for drunk driving and had it carefully covered up; say they’re for veterans’ benefits, then vote against them; say they’re against torture, then back the president on torture policies; are for choice one day and against it the next; and all the other things I’ve forgotten.

No, neither Clinton nor Obama have those odious notches in their personal resumes.

The main stream is losing money and viewers by the hours. If they keep up no one will be watching. If they were smart, which they’re not, they’d put news back where belongs, on the non-profit side of the corporate equation…where it used to be.

That goes for the cable news networks, too, which are for profit, but still need to listen, and the Chris Matthewses, Morning Joes, Dan Abramses, Wolf Blitzers and even occasionally Keith Olbermann to knock off the time-wasting trivia and stick with the issues, or your ratings will plummet, too, and you’ll lose viewership.

I’d mention Fox News, but why bother?

You’re all in a ratings war and fighting to stay alive. Don’t commit ratings/viewership suicide by going for the side dishes and not the meat.

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I am a Musician, political Junkie, Father, Husband, who cares very much about the United States of America and what is being done to the Ideals and citizens of this great Nation.

I want to restore the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to what the founders of this nation intended to protect us from.

I was born in Niagara Falls, N.Y. and I now reside in Florida. I am tired of the media being manipulated by Faux News and right wing propaganda that leading our Democracy i...

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Michael ChaversI am a Musician, political Junkie, Father, Husband, who cares very much about the United States of America and what is being done to the Ideals and citizens of this great Nation.

I want to restore the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to what the founders of this nation intended to protect us from.

I was born in Niagara Falls, N.Y. and I now reside in Florida. I am tired of the media being manipulated by Faux News and right wing propaganda that leading our Democracy i...

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asleep at the wheel

One hour into the debate before a question of substance was asked. Shame on ABC!!!! We are not all asleep at the wheel.

by Michael Chavers (42 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 172 comments) on Friday, April 18, 2008 at 1:28:29 PM

Sandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, ten minuted newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspape...

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Sandy SandSandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, ten minuted newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspape...

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Asleep and tone deaf

Nobody's listening, they're too busy talking to pay attention to what "the people" are saying.

by Sandy Sand (131 articles, 0 quicklinks, 161 diaries, 1209 comments) on Friday, April 18, 2008 at 2:54:20 PM

Professor Bagnolo is a Renaissance man: Cultural Anthropologist, Architectural designer, painter, writer, novelist, theologian. As a child prodigy, abed with polio for almost two years, with an off the charts IQ, reading at the graduate level by 5th grade, offered an opportunity to skip three grades at age 8.Later He was a recipient of an Art Institute scholarship at age 11, a Ford Foundation Fellowship in Anthropology and in Painting and a merit scholarship in art, and was appointed a Graduate ...

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Professor Emeritus Peter BagnoloProfessor Bagnolo is a Renaissance man: Cultural Anthropologist, Architectural designer, painter, writer, novelist, theologian. As a child prodigy, abed with polio for almost two years, with an off the charts IQ, reading at the graduate level by 5th grade, offered an opportunity to skip three grades at age 8.Later He was a recipient of an Art Institute scholarship at age 11, a Ford Foundation Fellowship in Anthropology and in Painting and a merit scholarship in art, and was appointed a Graduate ...

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And...

Nice job Sandy.

We are never going to hear anything of substance either from the candidates or media. Apparently blow-jobs and screwing are much more important to pursue in getting people out of office than genius is for solving problems and getting them elected and keeping them in. We elected a sub-100 IQ, mass-murdering, thieving, sadist and mentally unstable "leader and sadistic, scum-bag as his puppeteer, but to the idiots in the south and the "unChristian Right" it is more important that he did not have an affair.

What a booby hatch brained, centered pack of imbeciles are America's voters. I say we hang the entire 60% of single working women, who were too damned busy chasing Ring-tones and Prada shoes at the mall to vote, and of the wealthy who voted to bolster their bulging bank accounts and support the bigotry by, voting for Bush, of Nader who helped him. Nice job guys and gals, the blood of 1.5 million and counting are on your heads.

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1265 comments) on Friday, April 18, 2008 at 4:16:17 PM

All I can say is...

Agree! Agree! Agree!

by Sandy Sand (131 articles, 0 quicklinks, 161 diaries, 1209 comments) on Friday, April 18, 2008 at 5:45:04 PM

Margaret Bassett is an 86-year old, currently living in senior housing, with a lifelong interest in political conumbrums. She hopes to hold out for one more presidential election. Bachelors from State University of Iowa (1944) and Masters from Roosevelt University (1975) help to unravel important requirements for modern communication. Early introduction to computer science (1966) trumps them. It's payback time. She's been "entitled" so long she hopes to find some good coming off the keyboa...

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Margaret BassettMargaret Bassett is an 86-year old, currently living in senior housing, with a lifelong interest in political conumbrums. She hopes to hold out for one more presidential election. Bachelors from State University of Iowa (1944) and Masters from Roosevelt University (1975) help to unravel important requirements for modern communication. Early introduction to computer science (1966) trumps them. It's payback time. She's been "entitled" so long she hopes to find some good coming off the keyboa...

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It was a lemon. Lemonade, anyone?

ABC has their reasons. George and Charlie are hired hands. We could get even, rather than mad. But it would be effective. One thing which they did for me it that I'm going to have my eye on ABC henceforth. Online, of course. I don't want to give them Nielsen points for looking at their advertisers. Although that might come later.

More to the point, a question. How can netroots people of both parties, and any extra parties interested, demand better debates this fall on behalf ot the general election?

by Margaret Bassett (19 articles, 1258 quicklinks, 26 diaries, 735 comments) on Saturday, April 19, 2008 at 9:37:19 AM

I am a retired opera singer. I was a leading soprano with the New York City Opera for ten years. I am a strong supporter of Dennis Kucinich and worked for his campaign in 2004. I believe that he is the ONLY honest man in congress. He has been working against this insane war since before it began. I am 72 years old and I have been so frustrated with the media, the Congress and the American people that they don't tell the truth.
CaronomeI am a retired opera singer. I was a leading soprano with the New York City Opera for ten years. I am a strong supporter of Dennis Kucinich and worked for his campaign in 2004. I believe that he is the ONLY honest man in congress. He has been working against this insane war since before it began. I am 72 years old and I have been so frustrated with the media, the Congress and the American people that they don't tell the truth.

Who could ever trust ABC?

We must remember that it was ABC that pulled their own poll when Dennis Kucinich won it handily. Then after another of their polls which he also won, they pulled that one, too and it was never mentioned again. And of course, it was Georgie boy who was at the helm of that fiasco. No number of angry letters to that station made any difference.

That was the end of my watching ABC or, in fact, any of the major whores of the MSM. We are being fed pap and gossip and trivia - anything but the truth about the fate of our country when the next election is over.

The smart people in the country know that the insurance companies will continue to control the health care "industry". There will be no end to the war or wars. There will be no impeachment of the real criminals- the Bush crime family who have commited more high crimes and misdemeaners than we can count. Sex now seems like such a benign thing, doesn't it? And the cry of Congress that impeachment would waste too much time is risable. Or it would be if it weren't criminal. Yes, Congress is also guilty of the crime of denying the oath they took to defend the Constitution. You know, that small document that Sen. Byrd and Rep.Kucinich wave around with such fervor. Or as Shrub says, "It's just a damn piece of paper"

That damn piece of paper is supposed to protect us from the lunacy of sociopaths like the resident of the White House. Listen up, Congress, do your duty and pay attention to the Constitution. Campain reform would be nice, too. Have you heard that phrase? Where is it written that millions and millions of dollars must be raised from big business lobbyists to be elected to office? And that it should be considered a coup for the candidate to raise that much money?

It's nauseating for me to read that garbage. Money is supposed to be used for good, not evil. It seems to me that evil is winning. And every candidate is guilty.

by Caronome (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 196 comments) on Saturday, April 19, 2008 at 10:50:57 AM

Born in 1929 in Sheffield Yorkshire England. Left school at age 14 and worked as a painter & decorator until I was called up for National service in the British Army. Served in the army untill 1973, then worked as an electronics/radio engineer untill 1984 when i retired. Built a boat and sailed around the Med. for 11 years then sold it in Tunisia, returned to the U.K. then to Florida where I've lived ever since.
douglas kayBorn in 1929 in Sheffield Yorkshire England. Left school at age 14 and worked as a painter & decorator until I was called up for National service in the British Army. Served in the army untill 1973, then worked as an electronics/radio engineer untill 1984 when i retired. Built a boat and sailed around the Med. for 11 years then sold it in Tunisia, returned to the U.K. then to Florida where I've lived ever since.

So right and so wrong.

I have been an observer of politics throughout the world for 65 years and there is one solid fact which is never ever revealed and that is the right wing idioligies are mostly if not always psychopathic. " How can the RIGHT be so Wrong " should be displayed in every school in 6 foot letters with the list of crimes these sociapaths have committed over the centuries.

Most of them are of very limited intelligence, who but a moron would carry out 9/11 in the fashion it was and hope an intellgent person would believe it.

by douglas kay (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 83 comments) on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 8:28:36 AM

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