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December 21, 2007 at 10:37:55

Would Global Cooling Have Chilled Our Ancestors Had They Been Around?

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One example is corn for ethanol.  The price of corn has been driven up so high that poor Mexicans literally stormed the ramparts of Mexico City's seat of government to protest the skyrocketing prices.  If you're a poor Mexican and you can't afford corn for tortillas, you have no daily bread.

There's also the question of producing the corn and the energy it takes to make ethanol.

Then there's the nickel used is some environmentally-friendly products.  The cost of mining the nickel, shipping it all over the world for refining and then shipping it back here, should make someone stop and think how much those activities are hurting the environment, and in its own way contributing to global warming.

Before we jump off the cliff and into all kinds of schemes to fight nature, maybe we should think about some of the alternative we're considering.

Before you send me a bunch of comments accusing me of being a global warming denier and a flat Earther, all I'm saying is it might be time to rethink what we're doing.

I don't want the Earth to warm; it's more than hot enough for me where I live now, nor do I want to see animals become extinct or the world's coast flooded out or existence.  Well, maybe Florida.  

If we are contributing to and hastening global warming, we can change how we do things and make considered wise choices, but we can't stop it.  It's up to us to prepare for what nature has on her agenda, not how we'd like things to be.

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Sandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, 10-minute newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspapers in Burbank. She is currently a guest columnist for the Los Angeles Daily News and contributor to ronkayela.com

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Professor Emeritus Peter BagnoloProfessor Bagnolo is a Renaissance man: Cultural Anthropologist, Architectural designer, painter, writer, novelist, theologian. As a child prodigy, abed with polio for almost two years, with an off the charts IQ, reading at the graduate level by 5th grade, offered an opportunity to skip three grades at age 8.Later He was a recipient of an Art Institute scholarship at age 11, a Ford Foundation Fellowship in Anthropology and in Painting and a merit scholarship in art, and was appointed a Graduate ...

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Gee

Gee Maybe the Neo-cons finally got something right. In their fascist document, The New World Order, where American bombs the hell out of everyone and steals all the oil, and then Depopulates America, Katrina was a convenient beginning for their plan. Now if the ice caps melt, millions will drown, maybe all of us, (except you and I) which would be good news for the rest of the animal/fish/bird kingdom, bad news for the virus/retrovirus/bacterial kingdom and the oil the Neo-cons have stolen will be useless to them, because they will all have been shark-bait!

Jeepers maybe this is not such a bad idea, this global warming. We could all get a nice even tan before we sink or get eaten by sharks or hungry, roaming bears.

I am beginning to like it already. 

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1310 comments) on Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:57:51 PM
 


56 years on this jumpin' green sphere. Musician. Own and operate a music store to help kids find a possible life long friend. I believe in the soul and the search. Happily married w/ 2 boys. Published songwriter. play bass, piano and gut string guitar. there are no solutions..only alternatives. Ask questions. Listen. Be fair and don't expect. Baseball is a mirror. Don't ask....unless you have time and a sense of humor. Peace is never easy, but worth it. Always.
mikel paul56 years on this jumpin' green sphere. Musician. Own and operate a music store to help kids find a possible life long friend. I believe in the soul and the search. Happily married w/ 2 boys. Published songwriter. play bass, piano and gut string guitar. there are no solutions..only alternatives. Ask questions. Listen. Be fair and don't expect. Baseball is a mirror. Don't ask....unless you have time and a sense of humor. Peace is never easy, but worth it. Always.

Good god. common sense is alive...whoudathunkit

     Thanx Sandy. As I applaud those of us with real concerns about the harmful things we've done to and do to this most wonderful blue and green sphere, I am glad to remind myself that Momma Nature has repeatedly reminded us again and again how 'she' is the steadfast one.

     We are so not paying attention. Not because we can do nothing. Quite the contrary. We can do lots to help stem the harmful things we knowingly allow ourselves to do to Momma. Our concerns are well intentioned. But as with most good well intentioned 'human' causes which end up being turned into another forum or method to gobble up more wealth stealing taxes and 'in her name' spread more disinfo into the global corporate warming game, we miss the point that Momma is, has been and always will be Momma.

     We do need to take care of our home. Do not pollute our streams, do not dump toxins into the very soil from which sustenance arrives, do not blow nano particles by the gadzillions into our air not to mention thousands of other nefarious stupid things we do. We can do THAT. Momma would like that.

     Whatever the IPCC says and what science can do to help us is worthy of concerned thought and much honest consideration. But alas, it is not the gospel. Not even close. Momma will listen. She always has. But not to the IPCC. They are not even a fly on her drape. 

     Momma moves on, watching us, smiling in only the way that Mommas do, at our 'we can control the world' attitude, all the while showing us how she is in charge, big cheese, head honcho. No term limits. Just Momma.

     Her lessons she keeps repeating. Until we learn them. Then, she gives us another lesson to learn. Momma keeps teaching.

     Long after we have gone....

     peace

by mikel paul (10 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 365 comments) on Friday, December 21, 2007 at 2:36:08 PM
 


Harpist, unemployed blue collar worker, and Bush basher living deep in the heart of Texas.
PappyHarpist, unemployed blue collar worker, and Bush basher living deep in the heart of Texas.

The big chill...

History is with you on this. This planet has been through the ringer backwards since it was condensed from stardust. It was inhospitable to life longer than it has supported it. It went from a molten ball of iron to a ball of liquid iron surrounded by rocks. It's mass, and some cool chemistry brought water to seventy-five percent of its surface. It just happens to hang out in the "Goldilocks" area of our solar system; close enough to the sun have water in all three states, and far enough away to avoid some of the worst that the sun sends our way when it has a bad hair day.

While it is clear that man's pollution is having a detrimental effect on the planet's atmosphere, ultimately, it is we (and probably lots of other species) who will ultimately pay the price for our greed and stupidity. The earth will continue to spin long after we have killed ourselves off, and everything else we can in the process.

Perhaps then, a real evolution will occur, and the next batch of intelligent critters will rise, and hopefully without the vestiges of reptilian brains. They say that squid and octopi are pretty smart. They haven't been saddled with the reptilian brain...they evolved down a different path from reptiles.

Something that I have always wondered about was the amount of materials we move around the planet and how that unbalances it. We have cities where there is more mass than there was before it was developed. Whenever you move mass around on a spinning object, it affects the balance. A mere two miles straight ahead of me is the City of Dallas. It is a big city with LOTS of skyscrapers. There are millions of tons of steel, concrete, granite, and other massive objects concentrated in about five square miles. A mere hundred years ago, none of those objects were there. So, that has to have unbalanced the planet.

Add to that all that stuff had to come from somewhere. So, not only have we made parts of the planet heavier, we have made other places lighter. In effect, we are adversely affecting the spin of the planet by building.

Maybe it's not global warming that's the problem...maybe it's global imbalance. We will never know.

Or maybe, our mother planet is just moving as she would have had we not evolved at all.

"And whether or not it is clear to you, the universe is unfolding as it should."

Blessed be!
Pappy

by Pappy (61 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 863 comments) on Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 2:40:09 AM
 

 

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