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October 22, 2007 at 12:43:58

"Under Fire" in Southern California

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Conversely, we're hit with the suddenness of earthquakes and have to be constantly prepared and refreshing our supplies of water and batteries that go stale while waiting for an earthquake to strike.

While it might still be true that it's better to have warning, waiting for any disaster -- political, man-made or natural -- to hit, and wondering if and how much it will affect us, still and always will cause great angst.

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Sandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, 10-minute newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspapers in Burbank. She is currently a guest columnist for the Los Angeles Daily News and contributor to ronkayela.com

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DaveyS is a 5th-generation Texan now living in California, a proud liberal (product of the public education system in North Texas!), and a staunch critic of conservative policies that are destroying our nation.
daveysDaveyS is a 5th-generation Texan now living in California, a proud liberal (product of the public education system in North Texas!), and a staunch critic of conservative policies that are destroying our nation.

Be prepared to evacuate at the drop of a hat.

The eucalyptus trees ablaze is driving my nose crazy.  As if the dust stirred up by the strong winds was not enough.  And it is dreary to know that if a REAL disaster strikes, like if this fire gets TOTALLY out of control, there ain't nobody coming to save us.

by daveys (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 15 diaries, 169 comments) on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 1:34:33 PM
 

Sandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, 10-minute newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspapers...

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Sandy SandSandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, 10-minute newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspapers...

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So true!

We can say it's already true.  One of the newses just said forget mutual aid from any near-by counties.  All are up to their arses in their own alligatiors and can barely help themselves. 

My allergies and sinuses sympathize with the smell from your trees.

by Sandy Sand (143 articles, 0 quicklinks, 196 diaries, 1379 comments) on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 2:32:59 PM
 

EWE ARE ALL ASLEEP! ENJOY YOUR EMPIRE!
Joe RathbunEWE ARE ALL ASLEEP! ENJOY YOUR EMPIRE!

Go to Wally World (Wal-mart) and get.....

A REALLY BIG FIRE EXTINGUISHER!

But seriously, your statements are very correct about the west coast being at a "moments notice" and we here in hurricane alley are rather complacent about it; how is it that L.A. is the poster-city for the Military Industrial Complex? So worried about being prepared, they forgot about their surroundings?

Prayin' for you SS

J 

 

by Joe Rathbun (8 articles, 4 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 142 comments) on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 5:55:21 PM
 

Robert Sargent is co-owner of a Washington State commercial printing company with operations in Seattle and Redmond. He has an Economics degree from the University of Washington and occasionally plays alto sax with the Husky alumni band. An amateur economist, investor and photographer, and fiscally conservative moderate at heart, Robert has been a "yellow-dog Democrat" since the Bush administration "began screwing up the world beyond repair". Active in local and national political races, Mr. Sar...

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Robert SargentRobert Sargent is co-owner of a Washington State commercial printing company with operations in Seattle and Redmond. He has an Economics degree from the University of Washington and occasionally plays alto sax with the Husky alumni band. An amateur economist, investor and photographer, and fiscally conservative moderate at heart, Robert has been a "yellow-dog Democrat" since the Bush administration "began screwing up the world beyond repair". Active in local and national political races, Mr. Sar...

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If you have to evacuate...

Go North on I-5 until you get to Seattle, then take a right. We can find space for you and your pooch, too. Don't be too brave, when it's time to leave, get the hell out!


-Sarge



by Robert Sargent (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 26 diaries, 303 comments) on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 8:01:46 PM
 

I'm an anti-civilizationist and election boycott advocate in San Diego. For reasons not to vote in faith-based elections with secret vote counts for candidates you cannot hold accountable if they fail to represent you, check out the discussions, articles, and videos on my website http://noinnovember.ning.com
Mark E. SmithI'm an anti-civilizationist and election boycott advocate in San Diego. For reasons not to vote in faith-based elections with secret vote counts for candidates you cannot hold accountable if they fail to represent you, check out the discussions, articles, and videos on my website http://noinnovember.ning.com

I'm lucky -- I can smell it though.

I'm in a senior building in downtown San Diego. I was talking with our security guard downstairs as several evaculated families came to stay with their parents. We don't usually have children and infants in the building. The guard is from the Phillipines and was telling me about how when their local government wanted an area that was being used as an open market for development purposes, it mysteriously burned down.

Blackwater has been planning to build a training camp in Potrero, but some of the residents have been protesting. Once this fire is out, I wonder if there will be many Potrero residents left. The ones remaining will have a lot more to think about than protesting Blackwater. Not to suggest that Blackwater would commit the sort of atrocities here that they do elsewhere, but it certainly is convenient for them. And I was astonished to learn that the authorities have called up the thinly stretched National Guard to prevent looting, instead of calling in Blackwater the way they did in New Orleans. That's probably for the best, as Blackwater mercenaries are likely to feel threatened by residents with hammers in their hands trying to repair their homes, and might shoot them, thus arousing new hostility among residents.

I'm very glad that I got to attend the anti-Blackwater protest in Potrero and to see the town and the countryside. It is, I mean was, very bucolic and beautiful. And my heartfelt sympathies go out to Sandy and to all the others in areas of collateral damage where fires (which will be blamed on illegal aliens) broke out to divert attention from Potrero. Also to those who aren't aware that Blackwater is about to get billions of dollars in contracts to help Mexico smuggle, I mean fight, drugs, and really needs a training camp close to their next field of operations.

But don't mind me -- it will probably be at least twenty years before anyone else figures out what happened.

 

by Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments) on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 10:32:28 PM
 

Sandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, 10-minute newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspapers...

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Sandy SandSandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, 10-minute newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspapers...

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Go ahead, Suggest!

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Blackwater set a few fires.  We already know that a few in the San Diego area were arson-started.

I heard Blackwater is moving into SoCal to do New Orleans-type stuff, although for the life of me I don't why they'd be needed.  Everything besides the fires themselves seems to be quite under control.

Thanks for your comments.  I found them fascinating.

S

by Sandy Sand (143 articles, 0 quicklinks, 196 diaries, 1379 comments) on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 12:06:27 AM
 

Sandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, 10-minute newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspapers...

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Sandy SandSandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, 10-minute newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspapers...

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Go ahead, Suggest!

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Blackwater set a few fires.  We already know that a few in the San Diego area were arson-started.

I heard Blackwater is moving into SoCal to do New Orleans-type stuff, although for the life of me I don't why they'd be needed.  Everything besides the fires themselves seems to be quite under control.

Thanks for your comments.  I found them fascinating.

S

by Sandy Sand (143 articles, 0 quicklinks, 196 diaries, 1379 comments) on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 12:14:20 AM
 

57Yo m I'm a "been there, done that! Bought the tee shirt,to hide the scars!" type of person Ive worked�many jobs from�a chicken slaughterer to managing a branch of a multinational and many jobs in between.Raised in colonial PNG Left School 16,Grad Hi school 22 Night School, University 36� BBus (majored in Psyche and Marketing), Dip Comp prog and project Mmnt.at 50 I've been in 48 different community org ,23 on board with 18 prez or deputy prez.First social campaign at 17 for the aborigine...

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Andris57Yo m I'm a "been there, done that! Bought the tee shirt,to hide the scars!" type of person Ive worked�many jobs from�a chicken slaughterer to managing a branch of a multinational and many jobs in between.Raised in colonial PNG Left School 16,Grad Hi school 22 Night School, University 36� BBus (majored in Psyche and Marketing), Dip Comp prog and project Mmnt.at 50 I've been in 48 different community org ,23 on board with 18 prez or deputy prez.First social campaign at 17 for the aborigine...

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Fire safety and good wishes

I lived in one of Australia's worst bush fire areas and survive a number of conflagations.

Facts to consider
most houses are lost after the flame front Has gone through sparks hotspots smoulderings etc.

remove anything outside that will burn specifically anything that can smoulder. Cut the Grass. Trim any nearby trees.

Block and fill all gutterings with water that dampend down sparks

Protect the windows board them up to stop shattering and opening up the interior to fire.  Just before the fire front wet the exterior down. Becareful of the windows as the cold water on hot glass may shatter them.....Take your hoses inside you may need them after the fire front has passed. 

Draw the curtains inside reduce the heat inside internal ignition point.

Fire like this moves fast the fire front will be on and around you for a surprisingly short time  30 secs to 3 mins is usual. 

Fill bath and containers full of water  if staying have extra cloth mops these are for damping spot fires after the flames have passed

RADIANT heat KILLS  so make sure everyone has top to toe natural fibre clothing wool is best it doesnt burn easily solid leaters shoes  ski masks balaklavas are good stops face burning .

Have a torch with spare batteries  blankets wool. a portable radio If you're staying (I never did. Dogs, chooks, parrot, children, wife, memories,  important papers  2 gallons of water to drink loaded into the van and left (With practice we got this down to less that ten minutes.)

 why else did God make insurance companies?

 Drive with the lights on.  if you're caught find a clear spot park with lights on motor off get as low in the vehicle as possible  cover with blankets to avoid radiant heat stay in the car untill the flames have passed in the car you have a chance, out of it none!

If I prayed I'd pray for you, your family and neighbours but I don't so you'll have to settle for my best wishes and let me know how you  went after the danger has passed

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 531 comments) on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 1:37:30 AM
 

Sandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, 10-minute newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspapers...

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Sandy SandSandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, 10-minute newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspapers...

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X-T

Your good wishes are fine.  It's always good thoughts that count.  Thank you.

That's the best advice I've heard, and police and fire used to be my beat when I was a reporter.

The one I don't remember seeing is have all important papers together in one or two metal boxes with handles for easy grabbing and running.  Fire insurance policy a priority along w/mortgage, birth certificate, photo albums.

Blocking the rain gutters and filing them with water.  Hadn't heard that one.  Good idea.

Thanks,

Sandy

by Sandy Sand (143 articles, 0 quicklinks, 196 diaries, 1379 comments) on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 6:18:18 AM
 

Armed with word, song, and sequencer, Mars delivers social analysis, dreams and blueprints for change. She survived the 1999 National Poetry Slam, has performed all over Chicago, and has been a featured speaker at many political rallies. Born in New England in the radical 60's, Mars is a veteran political activist, performance artist/musician, chocoholic, early childhood educator, photographer, sky-watcher, single mom of a rebel in training, and proud African-american bowl of gumbo.
Mars CaultonArmed with word, song, and sequencer, Mars delivers social analysis, dreams and blueprints for change. She survived the 1999 National Poetry Slam, has performed all over Chicago, and has been a featured speaker at many political rallies. Born in New England in the radical 60's, Mars is a veteran political activist, performance artist/musician, chocoholic, early childhood educator, photographer, sky-watcher, single mom of a rebel in training, and proud African-american bowl of gumbo.

Fire, like this government, is bad for living things...

 

 

Yesterday CNN was taking comments from viewers re:  What do you think the federal government learned from hurricanes Katrina and Rita about responding to natural disasters?  Several people said what I was thinking:  They learned that if they demonize/criminalize the victims before/during/or after, the gov't can get away with murder.  Sure there's widespread exposure and there were some scapegoats and lots of Black folks saying, "I'll never wave another flag as long as i live!"  But overall the gov't paid no price + escaped free.

 

 The lessons for this disaster in California?  Rely on each other in the communities and be ready for anything.   But if you're either brown-skinned or poor or living in a land grab marked area, assume they could be on the other side of those flames with a big-ass fan.

 

 This is a bad, dangerous situation for people, land, animals, all.  Let's take care of each other as best we can and hope the gov't doesn't use this against any groups of people out there.

 

Sending cool, blue energies to the people of southern Cal...

 

by Mars Caulton (1 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 82 comments) on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 11:19:17 PM
 

 

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