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"So?"

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But the first hit, when you add the question mark to "so what" and hit search is Miles Davis & John Coltrane- SO WHAT-- a youtube video of one of Davis's most well known riffs. Why not click it and listen as this op-ed meanders along. It has that stoned on dope feel that the supporters of the war must feel as they go from year to year, with that "So?" attitude about the war, the 4000+ dead americans, the tanking US economy...



Wikipedia adds: "So what?, common phrase used in response to a seemingly irrelevant, uninteresting, or inconsequential statement" and then lists usage by a lot of musical and singing groups.

It also, in the google summary, alludes to a misquote in England's parlaiment, "In March 2008, Balls sparked controversy by appearing to reply to David Cameron's assertion in parliament that the government had presided over the greatest increase in overall taxation of all time with the phrase "So what?" Balls maintained that he had said "So weak!", in response to Cameron's previous questioning, and this was the phrase that was recorded in the parliamentary register Hansard, but the incident remained highly controversial.[2]."



But most important, I find a youtube video and a transcript:

First, the transcript, of Cheney being interviewed, on the fifth anniversary of the start of the war, March 19th, by Martha Raddatz, on ABC's Good Morning America

CHENEY: On the security front, I think there's a general consensus that we've made major progress, that the surge has worked. That's been a major success.

RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it's not worth fighting.

CHENEY: So?

RADDATZ So? You don't care what the American people think?

CHENEY: No. I think you cannot be blown off course by the fluctuations in the public opinion polls.



And here's the video:



Note the smarmy, "go fuck yourself, I don't care what you think" face he makes, which I've put higher in the article.

Now, when I say, "So?" as the title of my article, having put the word into quotational context, I'd like you to consider it as the use of the word ala Cheney, but used as a response to right wingers who say that after five years, over 4,000 dead and 30,000 maimed Americans, leaving Iraq without a win, without "victory," will be a disaster, cause chaos, cause hundreds of thousands of deaths.

I say, "So?" And I say it with the full "fuck you" meaning that I believe Cheney gave it-- but to people like George Bush, John McCain, Shelby Chambliss, Joe Scarborough--

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It was shocking...

to hear this hubris beset imbecile ask the question, "So?", in a public venue. the meaning I took from it was, "Why should I give a sh*t what one hundred million people think? I'm on top of the heap, getting over, and if they don't like it they should try to knock me off the hill."

It was more than simply dismissive, although dismissive it was. It also expressed a sneering challenge to anyone who could see through him (which is almost everyone.)

I agree with those many on this site who feel that this criminal's challenge must be answered.

by John Sanchez Jr. (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 25 diaries, 1791 comments [148 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:42:09 PM

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Reply: Look at Cheney's face in the picture in this article

I assume, when he thinks of John Conyers adn the judiciary committee, and the potential for impeachment, this is the kind of face Cheney makes.

by Rob Kall (952 articles, 4177 quicklinks, 374 diaries, 2087 comments [45 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:57:46 PM

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Reply: The bottom of the heap

I agree with you in what you took away from Cheney's "So?" comment - except in one respect.  One hundred million people in this country are actually at the top of the heap, being as Cheney is our employee.  But all of these people have forgotten that.  Once they remember and choose to take action, Cheney will be where he belongs - at the bottom of the heap.  Impeachment, prison?  Wouldn't it be grand!

by Diane Cadonau (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 16 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:52:49 PM

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Reply: The bottom of the heap

Ah Diane, if only it were so.

When, Oh when are Americans going to wake up and get with the programme ?

Sorry, but the way I see it, Chaney does NOT work for YOU, or any other American, and if anyone should think he does, it is THEY who are mightily misled and mistaken. Petraeus has demonstarted very clearly, who his Boss is, and who he is responsabile to, AND he is NOT alone, there are millions who all come under the same masters spying and acting against you all each and every day, all for their thirty peices of silver, whilst their bosses need semis to carry away their loot.

Chaney works for HIMSELF, has done from day one, and will until he croaks it, simple as that, moreover he has made this very clear with his actions and statements through which he very clearly states over and over again, the contempt he holds for the citizens of America, AND I guess to be fair, from where I sit, sometimes I find myself AGREEING WITH HIM on this matter.

Simply on the basis that Chaney and his crowd  have done everything within their power to advertise their agenda very clearly and unequivcaly, yet the average American simply fails to pick up on what he/they are saying.

For example;

Americans were told right from the beginning, this was lifetime war, U.S. troops would stay in Iraq as long as they were needed, it was even stated the war would last 100 years, the PANPAC release explains their agenda in fine detail, which is/was available to anyone who could read, yet Americans still dream of the illusion of leaving Iraq ? Year after year now, we've been inundated with the LIE that troops were coming out SOMETIME from the Media and conplicite sources, usually coupled up with another issue that seems to be in the limelight of the day, it's alomost as if the media bring out this subject to distract people from the REAL issue, knowing it's a sensative issue and will misdirect people's attention falsely.

Let's face, on the economic front, the U.S. definately has got some serious issues staring it in the face, we also have the so called Democratic election saga unfolding, which by all appearances, is not going to plan, so yeah it could be very easily construed, a little misdirection could come in handy right now.

No wonder your leaders treat you all with such contempt, it's almost as if they can do what they will right in front of your faces, and Americans still refuse to see what's being done to them. WOW !

I think it's high time U.S. citizens removed the wood/log from their eyes and saw things how they really are, of course in doing that, they may just have to face reality and God Forbid, actually DO something about what they are confronted with.

It is no longer YOUR Republic,(if it ever was)each and everyone of you belong to the CORPORATE GOVT and your lives have no value whatever, they can do, and will do with you all, whatever they choose, whenever they choose and however they choose. Bitching, whining and moaning about the state of things will have no effect and change little, other then to point you out as a possible target of anti govt actions thus initiating repressive actions against you, your own media has already reported thousands of such cases which again, the majority of citizens pretend is not happening.

I thank my lucky stars every day, I'm not living in the U.S, I'd be locked up as an anti govt terrorist no doubt for voicing my disproval in such manner.

I could go on and voice suggestions on what/how U.S. citizens should/could proceed to counter these events, however this would then be construed as terrorist action, fomenting unrest, ect, ect, ect, and even though I don't live in the U.S. I may find uninvited visitors on my doorstep at 0300 in the morning and be spirited away to be held incummunicado for the rest of my life. I would not consider such an action a fair exchange for my advice.

by Eddy Schmid (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 234 comments [17 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:54:04 AM

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And why then

neither the talkshow host in question nor ANY media person had not said openly:

We have a criminal madman as a VP here, people. Good night and bad luck.

 

by Mark Sashine (72 articles, 19 quicklinks, 269 diaries, 4101 comments [131 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:02:02 PM

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so to the left ,so to the right

go f yourselves; and i include the shrub, dickie boy, rice a ruiny, muquos-say, and the other right or wrongers. plus it goes to shrillary and o-blaster for not talking impeachment and 100% withdrawal of all americans out of i-reek, ass-ghanistan, and possibull i-ran all the way home.

the crusades are over you f'en shite head maniacs. if hundreds of million of souls say they recognize that you are socio and psycho paths, i guess you must just respond-sooooooooooooo?

following the lemmings is not the brightest thing when we can see the cliff edge. let us all , including the armed service personnel , say soooooooo! and tell the commander-in greif to stick it in his ear!

i'll place my vote for cynthia mckinney. you can take gravel or nader. the main stream mediocres are not worth a damn.

wolfie the one who will not vote for the lesser of two boll weevils.

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:10:37 PM

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Reply: whoops

if you really want to vote for mc blame-it-on the lefties, or a demogogue-crat, then please do so with a clear conscious, and a blessing from all the other lemmings.

your recalcitrant wolfie in bleeps clothing!

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:16:33 PM

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So?

Is Cheney's  "so" the new "Let them eat cake"?

If so we can all take solace from the fact that the silly mindless and vicious French Aristacracy  were justly rewarded for their lack of empathy to the starving class.

They were publically guillotined .

 

Ah the guillotine!  When I look at Cheney's smug sirk I grow ever more respectful of it's utility!

Can you think of a more perfect end to our national  cult of  cretins?  

We could round them all up and send them for a few weeks of waterboarding at Guantanamo followed by a new national  holliday "Guillotine day!"

 Every time one of them cries out and begs for their pain  to stop we could all raise our voices in unison "SO?"

 What glorious KARMA! 

 Oh!What a world... what a world....

 

siriusss 

 

 

 

 

by siriusss (6 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 111 comments [6 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:31:19 PM

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Reply: torture

are you advocating torture and inhumane treatment by cruel and unusual punishment? then we will have gone to the dark side , ourselves.

send them to prison after a fair trial. let them be humanely treated, even if they can not be cured of their abominations. perhaps they will be able to warn us of future traps our minds may come across set by diabolical psycho paths.

wolfie says that two million wrongs will not make a rite.

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:54:40 PM

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Reply: are you familiar with the terms

satire and sarcasm?

siriusss 

by siriusss (6 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 111 comments [6 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 2:56:30 PM

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Reply: whoopsi-do

my antennae must be broken.  bad wolfie!

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:04:23 PM

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"Staying the course indefinitely is a policy driven by fear"

- surely one of the most obvious, and least articulated observations around. I hope others will pounce on it as you have.

This was one of your most loosy-goosy opeds, and I enjoyed the Miles too!

by Laudyms (0 articles, 1142 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 708 comments [138 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:43:55 PM

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Reply: Fear

Every thing this administration has done is driven by fear. Fear or loss of control, loss of oil, loss of power. Fear of the American People and the Communist and anybody who looks or has a different tradition or what have you. Time to say So about their fears.

by Robert N Smith (15 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 152 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:19:05 AM

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Cheney, Seuss, what's the use?

We're angry, and tired, and sad.
Our impotence should make us mad.
 
"So," was what he said.
Makes no difference
Four thousand dead.
Cognitive dissonance.
What goes through that arrogant mind?
This victory you're convinced we'll find
Just how Pyrrhic will it be?
And for one selfish moment I must ask
What this war is costing me
Our money, our future, this futile task
Repercussions un-foretold
Their discussions brash and bold
Broken promises and bald faced lies
Regardless of rationalizations the vice president tries
We continue to pay, our opinions hold no sway
So what if another one dies
4,001, some mother's son.
Do you care about 4,002?
Who are we to tell you what to do.
Will we be free after 4,003?
No.  More.  More.  4,004.
He'll strive and strive
Healthy?  Alive?  Not 4,005.
Political tricks kill 4,006
Off to heaven goes 4,007
Hate is great, berate your fate
No matter, still gone, 4,008.
How will it be for 4,009?
Sniper, car bomb, or land mine?
4,010, we're at it again
4,011, a meaningless digit
The military machine's replaceable widget
To what depths will they delve with 4,012
Poll numbers, reason, they've decided to shelve
4,013?  They've got spleen and stomach for more.
Our bile, though, is starting to bore.
This list will continue with their stupid war
4,014
4,015
4,016
4,017
4,018
Just numbers ticking up and up
Two thirds of Americans don't compare to me
With kings I sup, they slurp noodles from a cup.
Though 4,019 might disagree
You say there are plenty, look now there's  4,020.
And let's not forget that's just our side
We don't even count the Iraqis who've died.

by jeffreyleonard (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 13 comments) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 2:03:02 PM

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Reply: cats meow

seuss-sational. too bad it weren't so.

where did all the flowers go?

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:07:38 PM

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Reply: catspaw guffah

Faded flowers, a disappearance

Summer showers, tears appearance

Marching, Assaulting, Cha-ching

We’re faulting policies

Sending troops overseas

Killing groups in the way

Or “so” you say

Peace

Freedom

Fleece

Wisdom

You think

We dumb

You blink

Act numb

To facts

We see ‘em

Attacks

Ad nauseam

Do you see a resolution?

Is this your final solution?

From whom will you seek absolution?

When blossoms pale

And the bullets hail

Wars will fail

They always have

A burn’s salve

Brings late relief

After fire has wrought its grief

Regardless of how well applied

Tell the wounded he hasn’t died

Here’s some healing

For what you’re feeling

Treat the skin

But what’s within

An understanding

That what you’re handing

Medicine

Western sin

A hospital

A broken skull

This isn't giving, it's demanding

Where’s the thanks

For our tanks

Leave?

Believe

Our best intentions

And latest inventions

Were designed to save you

If, perchance, we killed a few

What were we supposed to do

Collateral damage was expected

What exactly was resurrected.

He speaks with voice inflected

Backed by experts well respected

Your land lacked inspection

(and a dose of genuflection)

trust us when we say

what we do is good for you

your buds can bloom another day.

by jeffreyleonard (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 13 comments) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:08:16 PM

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Reply: to the bard, mr wenker

if i could write so cogently and brightly, i would write an ode or two. but my words sag dozingly and unsightly, therefore i will let my words be few.

the days of listening are over, the sounds of passivity are through. we must bellow and never cower, so that the blossoms of reason may be strewn.

keep up the good words jeff.  my paws are getting tired.

wolfie milton, paradise lost but not forgotten

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:16:36 AM

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Reply: Milton Stilton Rumplestiltskin

Contact now the next of kin

 

Spinning gold from the lies they’ve told

 

We’re left with stinky cheese to hold

 

Fallen angels and pretty bangles

 

Distract us as our money mangles

The lives are lost at terrible cost

the nation’s adrift, at sea, storm-tossed

we have no captain, a sad crew sets sails

this administration repeatedly fails.

No special powers of deduction

Are needed to see more destruction

Will result in more isolation

For one proud nation

Must still know its station.

In order to build

We must be strong-willed.

Any selfish boy

Has time to destroy

It takes longer to heal

Whatever you feel

Whatever you believe

He’s caused countless to bereave

He’s woven a tangled web of sighs

Others’ lost ones will never rise

Despite the tightest alibis. 

by jeffreyleonard (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 13 comments) on Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:00:12 AM

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Why Should He Care ?

He is an unelected official brought to power through cronyism. His response is the only instance of honesty in his entire life and is perfectly in line with his creed : corporate interests. Why in the hell should he  care about the opinion of a public that never bestowed upon him the mandate to wield power ? Any other response would have been pure hypocrisy. Let us thank him for this historic response that will go a long way defining the man and his true nature. Should we dub him 'Mr So' ? But he is already 'Mr Last Throes'

by ramsheyi (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 793 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:32:11 PM

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so-lump it

Saying "so" to 2/3 of the American people who want out of Iraq is like saying "take it or lump it". That means he's beholden to some other entity, certainly not the folks paying the bills. Obviously, he made out better representing them not us. 

by Gene Cappa (43 articles, 28 quicklinks, 113 diaries, 347 comments [33 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:07:17 PM

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Re: "SO?"

Rob:

You're very angry. In-fact, there is steam coming off of my monitor!

Having said that, why isn't all of America outraged at Cheney's crass and fractious so-so response to Martha Raddatz? Maybe they are and simply need a place to vent? OpEd's the place. "Bring em on!"

If I could also note, if Dick Cheney is so fuckin evil, why then are we thanking his subordinate, this shill who is merely taking his orders right out of a page from the PNAC playbook, General Petraeus?  

by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:42:56 PM

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so so so

we all talk but nothing happens--so--we all want change --so-- we all hope somebody will bail us out --so--al gore said no--so------ i will give chaney this-he has balls ---now if we could only match that we might get something done-------july 4th get some balls and do something--quit buying gas from exon and mobile--make a small run on the bank-if only for a week take a chunk of money out-buy nothing but necessities--call your politicians and tell them what you did or are doing till you see changes--but for our sakes do something--july 4th-get independence back-----russ fiengold is my champ but he still hears my guff

by TRADESMAN (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 335 comments [40 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:22:44 PM

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The United Nations

How do we get the United Nations to enforce what it has called an illegal invasion?  With the Media-Right Storm Corporately controlled, it will surely take until THEY are out of office.

by Michael Dewey (5 articles, 1 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 245 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:52:31 PM

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Reply: hey pardner

if you are the loan-arranger, where's your sidekick toronto?

if the u.n. is an illuminati organization then we must forget the posse and the posse comitatus , as well.

did the rocky fellers give a slaughterhouse which was razed for the u. n. building to be constructed, then what surprise is it that they are part of black bart's gang.

looking for strength from outside us is like looking for a good shave by the barber of fleet street, on the corner of elm street.

SO? is only one syllable. NO is one word that can be in reply!

no more to the dem-o-rats and re-poo-blighted-kins. let us just vote them all into the street.

wolfie the in-duped-pained-dent.

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:29:29 AM

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Reply: U.N.

The U.N. is not part of the illuminatti or any New World Order setup.  Though if it had more trash/cash, it could end poverty.  Though until D.C. understands that the U.N. is a higher authority than D.C. it want get very far.  Its too bad that Bush has divided and destracted US from what America is her for.  Which is to show the World how to do it right.

There is a job opening for Tonto.  It doesn't pay much but more people will call you nuts than ever before.  Though in Guthrie language nuts is a good thing. 

by Michael Dewey (5 articles, 1 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 245 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:46:04 AM

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So, I'm in line at the Post Office today ...

with my "Impeach Cheney?" base-ball cap on (I always assumed the question mark was to get people thinking) and it's crowded and the line snakes, so you're passing close to people and this guy in a business suit says, "They should make that an exclamation point," and I mention cheney's "So?" comment and for the next 10 minutes the whole PO is talking politics in the "they need to be impeached" vain, and just before I leave the room I yell "Impeach!" and the whole firkin room yells it back.

Now why won't Conyers listen?

Cheney's "So?' might stand by itself as the most "in-you-face" contemptuous comment ever uttered by a public official - ever. Even more so than Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake"" because that wasn't said in a public forum. I'm at a loss to think of another statement ever made by an American politician as vile as this one. I'm sure there are, after all if there is one thing America can claim to always be #1 in, is that in our brief history we have produced some of the most whacked political figures to ever hold public office. But I certainly can't remember one this high in office ever doing it.

"So?"

It stands alone. A "standard-bearer" that may well never be broken.

It really is stunning that things have digressed to a point that cheney believes - and rightfully so - that he can say this with absolutely no fear of any repercussion. It's not so much shame on him as it is shame on us for not holding him accountable for any of his past crimes that he would exhibit such overt repugnance.

So? Why aren't we clogging Conyers office (again) and everyday? If he wishes to have us arrested "so what"? We keep doing it until he does what he's supposed to do or we can push him aside. Why should we show respect when we're given none?

So what are you going to do about it? - is really what cheney was saying.

So? Let's show him.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:56:38 PM

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Reply: Impeach Cheney cap

I wear my impeach Cheney cap everywhere and i'm usually greeted with blanks stares and apathy--or dirty looks--maybe you're just better lookin', neh? Anyway, congrats on your experience in the PO...where was that? I'm in supposedly liberal Corvallis, Oregon but as yet get only a few positive comments--my young banker whispered "nice hat" and said he couldn't say it out loud in the bank...geez! I was on a plane from military-town Fairbanks,AK to Portland with a lot of soldiers who were cheered while i got especially dirty looks from Gordon Liddy types and soldiers in civvies who don't seem to understand that I just want the war to stop and their lives to improve--although I didn't stand and cheer like some good German on the plane. Amerrika Uber Alles! Once, I got a hug from a flight attendant and a wink for the cap...just that made it worth all the dirty looks, i reckon.

by Papawhale (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 69 comments [19 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:44:57 AM

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cheney flipped us off

I think he is dead. Who survives FOUR attacks? I know many ppl who have had 1 or 2 heartattacks but unless they have heart transplants( and even not necessarily then) they don't make it through 4 or even three heart attacks. Therefore, he is robotic or he really is a minion of satan.

Please, speak up if you know someone or know OF someone who has survived four heart attacks??????

Skiidogs, Feingold is a hero to me as well. He read Bin laden's original threat letter on Cspan today. Says he takes it with him every where he goes. It reads that OBL plans on destroying us economically. Guess what? He did(we allowed the ADM to help him). OBL destroyed Russia's; they are doing quite well now(over 10 yrs later). However, our congress members (about 100 of them) both R and D are making money hand over fist on the war in Iraq. They have  investments in the subcontractor corporations assisting in Iraq. To the tune of 196 million dollars I believe. Not any of them will ever stop this Iraq "quackmire". DO you seriously believe that they will cut off the hand that writes themselve's checks?

Cheney's remark was a slap in our faces. Now, if he is human, we owe him a slap back, impeachment (arrest, actually). On the other hand if he is robotic as I suspect, or just a dead man walking evil ghost, its' our choice, eh? How could he have a heart attack even. The man has NO heart. He reminds me of a cinder block. Has no neck, and a grunt-like voice. Where is his neck?

And that mouthy whiney wife of his, oh puleaze. Make her stop.

Everyone now, a middle finger to Dick Cheney!!

by shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 592 comments [98 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:57:12 PM

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Reply: That latex facade

Don't slap hinm too hard...might rip that latex facade and reveal the alien monster within!

(let me see if I can find my cartoon of Cheney)

by Bia Winter (1 articles, 2 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 169 comments) on Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 6:47:02 AM

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Reply: It's in here somewhere...

Couldn't find the exact drawing, but there's a couple of good ones in here of Cheney, especially the one where Reality Chick melts him down to the oozy mess that he is!

 (first edition)

file:///E:/My%20Documents/RC4-26Feb2006/reality_chick_comix.htm

 

by Bia Winter (1 articles, 2 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 169 comments) on Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:27:39 AM

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Context, Context, Context....

...Israel, Israel, Palestine, Palestine.

John Steinbeck's family has history in what is now modern day Tel Aviv.  Protestant Christian Dominionism.  The insanity of interpreting the Revelation of John because of a pre-existing Catholic tendency towards lying and scaring money out of people is insufficient reason for ending the human species.

Like creates like itself.  Wholely.  What is occuring around the globe right now is completely idiotic.  This means that either the human species is idiotic or there is a substantial pay-off taking place while human beings, en masse, engage in idiotic behavior.  And it's not that any one human being is over-the-top idiotic, it's that a large number of us are just a little bit too fascinated with the "Easter Bunny."

What's YOUR part in global idiocracy?  How about this bit of mythology: need something done, grab your nearest alpha male or female and make your case for why they should get things done for US.

Have you ever studied alpha people and wondered what drives them to rise above the crowd?  Isn't it true that they are completely incapable of subordinating their will to the will of any consensus that they are not totally commited to and in charge of?

The whole friggin' organizational ethos in western culture is built up around leaders too afraid to actually lead a group consensus -- a purely democratic decisionmaking process -- much less trust that wisdom can be found in relying on group consensus.

True to form, the frightened, insecure alpha persona drives themselves with thoughts of "mob psychology" and the worst-case scenario of everyone in the world waking up all at once and thinking like they do, and conducting themselves accordingly.

Competition is good?  C'mon.  Naturally occuring competition among half-awake animals has some benefits to its credit, but not for human beings.  We came together to get the f*k OUT OF THE JUNGLE, not recreate a manageable version of it on our front stoops.

Capitalism equals fascism...therein lies the elephant in the livingroom.  I have to laugh a sardonic cackle at the sallies out there trying to rescue capitalism with terms like, "conscious capitalism," or "The Secret," and other psy-op-inspired horse manure designed to keep us all in chains.

If you can't live comfortably being a worker among workers and a friend among friends, go clean some toilets until you get a friggin' clue, you emotional moron.  The world doesn't need people in it hellbent on manipulating outcomes that have nothing to do the organic process of arriving at a true consensus of what the planet we are all sharing needs us to do next.

Gather up all of Bushco and stick them all in Cheney's rathole and slam the door shut.  Bury it in a half mile of concrete.  These people are cockroaches and the people who follow them are soylent green. 

by Richard Volaar (39 articles, 0 quicklinks, 151 diaries, 478 comments [63 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:04:47 AM

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So...much higher PROFITS!

Sorry to disagree with Mr. Finel, but the only reason to stay the course is the exact same reason we entered Operation Iraqi Fleece'em. PROFITS! Halliburton and its subsidiaries have made billions upon billions (and can't account for a significant portion of those funds.) The budget has exploded. Exxon Mobile and its cohorts are continuing to bring in "record profits" quarter after quarter, while lower wage working Americans make choices between paying for heat, gasoline, or food. Greedy real estate maggots have hoodwinked average citizens into believing that the American Dream comes with an adjustable mortgage and a balloon payment attached. Big Pharma continues to rake in billions a year by tricking normal people into thinking that they, their preschoolers and children all have "chemical imbalances." The medications for such "illnesses" include side effects such as apathy and uber-consumerism - just what the government wants of its good citizens. Unfortunately these meds also induce side effects such as homicidal and suicidal ideation, leaving us with increased numbers of school, university, mall, workplace, and domestic killings. (Thinning out the herd?) It's all about the money!

by N&TBearden (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:40:19 PM

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before we go forward

how can we change the world .until we change ourselves we will not be able to alter the universe. loving ourselves and everyone else is difficult to accomplish. but we must accept everything that is here. surrender does not mean not speaking up to protect ourselves and our countrymen and women.

surrender the insanity of holding on to the past or trying to live in our minds for the future. with every thought and action the power of now should be used to get our world back from the paranoia of hating others for being different in color or ism or dress. we are all part of the vibration of the universe. the atoms in us are in everything among the universe. we must reclaim the enchantment of the world.

i am no different from every person that exists or the animal kingdom. no different from that in the plant life or even that which is non biological. we can not hate one atom while trying to move the moon and the stars.

wolfie who is trying to understand Tolle and Berman and all the people who believe in humanity.

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:55:24 AM

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The "so" comment

The remark demonstrates ever more clearly the truer agenda of the current administration.  They never have been, and never will be, franchised with the American people. 

The whole episode reminds me of a Mel Brooks movie where Mel Brooks is playing a lustful King Louis of France.  He fondles a woman's behind against her wishes, looks at the camera and says: "It's good to be the king". 

The question that begs to be asked is how many more 'so' comments are we going to hear, especially come November.... 

by Rabbi (11 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 109 comments) on Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:09:41 AM

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Let them eat what?

Guys, you've gotta lay off poor Marie Antoinette. She was  politically ignorant and not even French! She didn't want anything to do with politics; she was more interested in her children.  The Cheney thing, on the other hand, is a political snake, and he knows exactly what he's doing.

Hey, he's telling us to eat something too, and it isn't cake! How can we get rid of these guys? Why have we not yet booted them out of Washington and scrubbed the place down? Sigh.

By the way... nice new photo, Rob.

Debbie 

by Debbie Scally (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 98 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:02:55 PM

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