mohamed al Azaki: I would like to say that I'm not writing this to frighten or threaten westerners or Americans... I like westerns and Americans as they are our friends ... they teach us, we learn from them many nice things in this world... but the US policy in Middle East especially in Palestine and Iraq has produced a "bitter" result and turned the moderate one into extremist.
rob kall: still, it IS somewhat frightening. I have opposed Bush's "democracy" crusade. It is a cover or veil for other motivations. You can not "inject" Democracy into a people. You cannot force it upon them. And what Bush has really done in Iraq is force the corporatization theories of the Neocons upon Iraq-- all the crazy, failed theories... This is not about democracy.
mohamed al Azaki: Sir, If you can understand the Arabic language, you will get it clear from Al-Jazeera TV, which millions of Muslims trust it. If so, then you will understand that the Arab public is now refusing democracy, and all analysts repeatedly say via Al-Jazeera TV that all Muslims now, - especially after the American-European-Israeli imposed the siege on Islamic movement Hamas' new government that renounced the violence and believed in democracy and won the Palestinian elections - , they all say that all Arab and Muslims are now infidels on that Bush's democracy.
mohamed al Azaki: If you Mr. Kall pay a visit to any Arab country, you will then correctly find that Muslims have to choice between loyalty to Islam or to Democracy-all Muslims now saying that Islam is contradicting democracy.
mohamed al Azaki: So, from these points I concluded that Jihad is coming and Bush with his administration will see it reality, sooner or later.
rob kall: True Democracy, or "Bush democracy?"
mohamed al Azaki: Both : True democracy and Bush's democracy are similar... Even the Christian religion – if you read the Bible - it contradicts with true democracy itself because of the "majority"; the main principle of democracy.
rob kall: Isn't it possible to have a democracy that also respects Islam? I expect this might be difficult with more extreme forms of Islam, just as here in the USA, extremist Christians would impose their ways on all.
mohamed al Azaki: Of course, I'm not against Democracy...I'm proud of being democrat in my country... but, in fact, according to Christian and Muslim clerks, the democracy system clearly contradicts Islam ... the democracy system also clearly contradicts the real Christian religion.
rob kall: Can an Islamic country have a peaceful relationship-- a healthy, positive relationship with a democracy?
mohamed al Azaki: Of Course, yes it can, but without interference by the United States.
mohamed al Azaki: But people in Islamic world are saying now that the democracy is just a "western religion"...Democracy is a western "religion " in which that has been confirmed by nearly all Muslim.
mohamed al Azaki: I think the world must to understand that Muslim youths before Iraq war were not the same youths after the Iraq war.
mohamed al Azaki: Anyway, you can see Afghanistan... who is going to control it?
rob kall: The opium sellers.
mohamed al Azaki: Ask American administration about the secret withdrawal from Afghanistan... about the growing power of terrorists there.
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rob kall: Tell me.. from your latest article, it appears that Muslims have a choice between loyalty to Islam or to Democracy-- that they cannot have both. Is this your observation, or also your opinion?
Excuse me Turkey. Ya know the gateway to the Middle East? That acknowledged muslim democracy. Or did you screw up the translation and he meant ARABS instead of Muslims.
Gotta Wonder.
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Vulture (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 150 comments)
on Sunday, October 8, 2006 at 5:05:55 PM
He said Muslims. Keep in mind it's his view of the Muslim world. I didn't translate. The interview was in English. In Iraq, I have a feeling there will be three nations, and the Kurdish one will have a chance at becoming a democracy. I doubt the Shia third will. The mullahs in Iran will be in charge, by proxy.
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Rob Kall (857 articles, 3983 quicklinks, 343 diaries, 1821 comments)
on Sunday, October 8, 2006 at 5:54:16 PM
interesting perspective, but lacks factual accuracy
the fact is, the arabs have toiled under tyrannical regimes for decades; and even movements like the muslim brotherhood in egypt are trying to mobilize through the existing (flawed and corrupt) democratic process. popular movements in the middle east are routinely suppressed, to extent that civil society as such has been crushed and dismembered. the idea that they're rejecting democracy as a "trick" sounds like something out of bin laden's cia psyop handbook! they're yearning for democracy out there.
while there's no doubt that political aspirations in the region are mobilized within an islamic worldview, these movements would get nowhere if they didn't have a fundamental basis in popular legitimacy. the measure of success of these movements is whether they successfully articulate and practice a democratic, participatory islamic politics.
and the idea that al-qaeda type "jihadi" ideology is taking over the region is also simplistic and untrue. we had a report here from the royal institute of international affairs which confirmed precisely the opposite. yes, our interventions in iraq and afghanistan are a recruiting sergeant for terrorism; but on the 'muslim street' al-qaeda is being increasingly rejected.
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Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed (23 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments)
on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 at 7:04:43 AM
Arab or Muslim, there is no difference...just get it!
Arab or Muslim, there is no difference...just get it!
Firstly: I would like to tell anyone who say that the Arab and Muslim world are yearning for democracy in their world, he was right...this idea is correct particularly when Palestinian Hamas movements won the elections and hold the government.
This person - who says that our world is over eager to adopt democracy – was right when Iraq carried its first free elections.
But now, if this person insists on his view, it's my pleasure to tell him that you are right now in definitely wrong. Why? I will tell you. Just be patient for few next weeks and see the huge supporters of Hamas...simply they will renounce their offices in the government; they will leave their ambition in democracy to something called "Jihad".
Here is a question, do you know that many supporters of Hamas have resigned from the movement in protest against Hamas' new policy towards Palestinian president and Israel and the world? If you said no, I will response you that you just follow the official news in many world media, and you lacked information and untold stories about what is happening in the Palestinians streets especially inside Hamas.
I think, Iraqi democracy is clear to open you eyes on the competition between Sunnis and Shiites and Kurds that even Iran itself fiercely wants to share the Democracy in Iraq. Of course, President Bush himself knows that Shiite are the dirty right hand of Iran in Iraq. Here is a link explaining this phenomenon including some information from Iraqi streets, not from state offices or American media, show who kills civilians.
In Egypt, Muslim brotherhood in Egypt ((since 1900)) has had tried to mobilize through the existing (flawed and corrupt) democratic process...that's right in Egypt, Jordan and Kuwait and Yemen...what is the new results? Just few seats in parliament or Nothing!
If any Muslim brotherhood parties in the Arab world win the elections, they will not be better than Hamas government, and all of them
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Secondly: the saying that the idea that al-qaeda type "jihadi" ideology is taking over the region is also simplistic and untrue. we had a report here from the royal institute of international affairs which confirmed precisely the opposite. yes, our interventions in iraq and afghanistan are a recruiting sergeant for terrorism; but on the 'muslim street' al-qaeda is being increasingly rejected.
Simply, ask yourself, why the Arab satellite channel Al-Jazeera TV insists to broadcast every new al Qaeda's type? Why al-Jazeera TV dedicated three or four program for al Qaeda?
Absolutely, Al-Jazeera clearly know how many many fans of al-Qaeda in the Middle East...the Arab and Muslim and the governments of all European countries and the United States, all trust al-Qaeda as a leading Islamic power...the news about al-Qaeda are the only thing trusted among poor Arab people. To be sure, you can phone al-Jazeera to get the right answer.
Go and get into mosques, examine what youths – from afar- are talking about, what kinds of papers they hide inside their clothes and pockets? Of course, they fear of police...but their heart and minds are forming to be other Zarqawisss in the region.
They publicly reject al-Qaeda's ideas because of police and security forces...but secretly they deliciously eat all things related to al-Qaeda.
You know the latest fashion at Arab youths, they wear al-Zarqawi's black hat, and calling it "Zarqawi hat"...you can find many western reports about this phenomenon that spread among youths particularly in Gaza strip.
You know what women and old sheiks and youths discussing when they gather drinking tea or coffee whether in Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen or Palestine...they say al-Qaeda is the only solution against America and Israel.
Over again, this is not my opinion, this is my observation from Media, streets, friends, secularists, socialists, moderate Muslims and extremists from Iraq, Palestine, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Somalia.
Finally, I'm not supporting jihad, rather I like to live in a peace world. I'm not against democracy, rather I would like to live in a peace transforming of power like what has happened in the latest peace and fair elections in my country, in which the moderate Muslim Brotherhood party, as usual, got a big loss since the beginning of democracy in Yemen in 1990.
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Mohamed Al-Azaki (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 3 comments)
on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 at 3:29:46 PM
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