Under these bills and others, the difference between you and the average, or not so average citizen or even average patriot, and those sent to-Adolph Hitler-inspired, rendition/torture chambers-Concentration Camps that would make the Cardinals in charge of the Spanish Inquisition drop to their knees in contrition and shame, is naught. The Bushite signing statements and Executive Privilege Comments, make all laws subject to the whim of anyone in any sort of power, evilly, infallible and inscrutable, including your neighborhood police or the now easily available in every community, Blackwater mercenary-Legalized Vigilantes.
For instance, suppose you ascertain that you are sensitive to, allergic to, or philosophically or scientifically opposed to, certain inoculations or vaccinations and therefore refuse to take them? Now, God knows there have been enough serious side effects including; brain squishing, mind altering, personality deforming, Zombie making, occurrences and "fatal events," to warrant anyone refusing to take them. This would be overruled and you would be forced to take any, all, and as many drugs as the Bushites desire you to take-your health, state of mind and sanity be hanged. You will be labeled a terrorist who seeks to allow a contagious disease to infect him and spread a biological terrorist epidemic to wipe out America. Then they might inject you with the "Hypnotic Terrorist Maker" drug which will cause your will to be overcome and for you to create a "terrorist" event and then in the process kill yourself, proving that they were correct about you all along.
Many doctors are already acting like fascists, for instance: A perfectly healthy woman went to a physician for a hemorrhoid "Rubber-Banding." A simple, in-office procedure, which removes the problem painlessly. Now, her father had died following a Colonoscopy as it punctured his colon causing it to hemorrhage, thus sending him into shock and as they stemmed the tide of the bleeding from the Colonoscopy, he contracted a major infection and died in the hospital a few days later. Well the doctor to which she went refused to do the banding unless she underwent a Colonoscopy, a very invasive procedure. She told the doctor of her fear and he "...waved it aside, hubristically" she said. She said she did not come to him to find out if she had cancer or polyps but to eliminate the hemorrhoid. He refused. She had to suffer on with it until she finally, after many tries, found a highly qualified doctor who did as she asked and she was off and running without pain, bleeding or the other problems associated with this relatively minor problem. That is like going to a doctor for a hangnail and has him talk you into an arm amputation.
The previous doctor wanted to pad his bill, pay his debt to his sponsoring hospital, and more. His assertion later he was watching out for her future, she and others interpreted as simply trying to make a few brownie points with the hospital, and avoid a lawsuit if it turned out that she had cancer. Both are unethical and unjustified-she was right, she went to him for the "Rubber-banding" not to find out if she had cancer. She was willing to give him a letter saying she refused the procedure stating moral or undue stress reasons. Besides, if she or her physician thought she needed further testing they would have asked her and she would have agreed to an alternative procedure to determine her state of health.
Forcing of people into drug programs is the one of primary strategies behind the Bushites desire to destroy Class Action Lawsuits and Personal Injury Lawsuits. They wish to eliminate any possibility of interference in the mandatory drug treatment and distemperization program they were planning for the future, which is now facing Americans head-on.
The fascists will cry out against those who refuse drug therapy saying they are terrorists who wish to spread their contagion to the rest of the nation. They will then imprison the citizen objectors and they will never be heard from again or they will force their treatment in Nazi/Dr. Moreau like fashion, and America will become "Escape From New York," or worse.
Where is this going? I'll tell you where; to Mandatory Drugging and surgery of all citizens-that, is exactly where all of this is going, complete with mandatory, sterilization and depopulation, is where all of this is going.
Ron Paul, is among the non-mainstream, dump the drug companies, group, and in that regard I salute him and others who believe as I do. Please remember that the other candidates welcome the Legal, Corporate, Drug Dealer's cash. Ron says he will not accept it.
By his desire for a limited Libertarian form of government would, I must say, eliminate the above possibility, by negating such Fascist social programs. I am and remain a Progressive, but all with great ideas are welcome, and Ron has some great ideas. Go his website with an open mind and see for yourself.
What is the solution? One of them is my plan to tax the bejeepers out of companies that outsource use the tax to finance Healthcare. This is about personal choices and freedom of choice. Washington and the centrist One Party system are supporting the profiteers in the Drug Business. I am not, neither is Ron Paul.
A strong part of the solution is to hear what people like Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul have to say about health care.
Ron Paul, further says: " Americans are justifiably concerned over the government's escalating intervention into their freedom to choose what they eat and how they take care of their health. I also opposed the Homeland Security Bill, H.R. 5005, which, in section 304, authorizes the forced vaccination of American citizens against small pox. The government should never have the power to require immunizations or vaccinations.
"I have introduced the Health Freedom Protection Act, HR 2117, to ensure Americans can receive truthful health information about supplements and natural remedies.
"I support the Access to Medical Treatment Act, H.R. 2717, which expands the ability of Americans to use alternative medicine and new treatments.
I oppose legislation that increases the FDA's legal powers. FDA has consistently failed to protect the public from dangerous drugs, genetically modified foods, dangerous pesticides and other chemicals in the food supply. Meanwhile they waste public funds attacking safe, healthy foods and dietary supplements.
"Last week the congressional Joint Economic committee on which I serve held a hearing featuring two courageous medical doctors. I had the pleasure of meeting with one of the witnesses, Dr. Robert Berry, who opened a low-cost health clinic in rural Tennessee. His clinic does not accept insurance, Medicare, or Medicaid, which allows Dr. Berry to treat patients without interference from third-party government bureaucrats or HMO administrators. In other words, Dr. Berry practices medicine as most doctors did 40 years ago, when patients paid cash for ordinary services and had inexpensive catastrophic insurance for serious injuries or illnesses. As a result, Dr. Berry and his patients decide for themselves what treatment is appropriate."
Professor Bagnolo is a Renaissance man: Cultural Anthropologist, Architectural designer, painter, writer, novelist, theologian. As a child prodigy, abed with polio for almost two years, with an off the charts IQ, reading at the graduate level by 5th grade, offered an opportunity to skip three grades at age 8. Later He was a recipient of an Art Institute scholarship at age 11, a Ford Foundation Fellowship in Anthropology and in Painting and a merit scholarship in art, and was appointed a Graduate Research Assistant position in college. He holds a triple bachelor's degree in Painting and Drawing, Anthropology, Architectural Design Advertising. MA's in Cultural Anthro, Painting and more. After being tenured he taught; architecture, anthropology, Theology, advertising, painting and drawing, entrepreneuring and Creative Profit Making. He produced a star-studded Music festival, had a radio talk show in Chicago, and cable TV show. Now, retired from Teaching, he paints, writes, and pursues other ventures.
The above bio harvested from the comments of Deans, colleagues, students, clients and collector's.
I just saw a Viagra commercial followed by a Flomax commercial and I wanted to throw the remote throught the screen at both of them.
I wonder why Flomax stops a man's bladder from running, but makes his nose run????? Does the pee by-pass the penis and come out the nostrils?
Take Flomax you 65-year-alta-cocker and you too will only pee once every two days, you'll suddenly be able to go kiaking. And what's with the woman who's husband has to get up every hour to pee at night?
The look she gives him is one of utter disgust, not of sympathy. She's got a lot of damn nerve. Women out-pee men everyday of the week.
If we think the pill pushing they throw at us on Thee TV is bad, the non-stop ones on radio are even more disgusting.
I could go on, but you get the idea. They make it seem like it's fun to have diverticulitis, genital herpes, blah, blah, blah.
And the side effects...they're to die for!!!
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Sandy Sand (143 articles, 0 quicklinks, 196 diaries, 1379 comments)
on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 at 8:33:44 PM
Flowmax doesn't make you stop urinating, it enables you TO urinate.
Honey, until you've walked a mile in the shoes of others, and until you learn just how these drugs work, it would be better if you read more, paid more attention, and practiced compassion.
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fou (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 90 comments)
on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 3:48:26 PM
Pete, as always, a brilliantly prophetic concept. You have a very active imagination, and common sense, seeing right through what others often or always miss, and your theories are always right on target. This story made us laugh and curse at the same time.
According to my prof and our study group leaders in my graduate program in the Big Apple at good old, you know what University, you are among the 5 most read and are very popular overseas as well. I have to go to my job. I model for fashion designers and we are having a show Saturday and rehearsal tonight. I am sending you my picture. Aggie.
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Agatha Payne (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 50 comments)
on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 at 8:35:38 PM
My two favorite females, wife excluded, together again. Thank you both and Sandy for a hilarious comment. Hey, Aggie may we all come to see the fashion show? I will in the Big Apple next Friday.
As for the article, maybe something will come of Ron Paul's approach, maybe not. But the Hun is on the march and it seems that our "stalwart" Dems are not a hellofalot better. Maybe they will come to their senses, especially Pelosi, Clinton, Obama, Edwards and the rest and join up with Paul and Kucinich.
Mike Moore, am old pen-pal and pal of my cousin Mark D., of radio, film and TV fame, said that Hillary, which he so supported in her run for senator, snubbed his attempt to get an interview after Edwards and Obama said yes. He needed all three to do it and she stopped him in his tracks. Not a good way to treat an old supporter.
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Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1311 comments)
on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 at 8:46:05 PM
I just saw that commercial! The disgusting look is supposed to make the viewer intimidated, fearful that his wife will dump him because he pees a lot, so he will run right out to a doctor who will prescribe the drug for him. I say ban the bastards from direct marketing and send their agencies to Madam Guillotine.
I recall my cousin asking the Doctor, back when medicine was an honest profession, why he pees so much. After a carefull examination, urine samples, blood tests, and other tests, and some questions, the doctor read the reports, looked up and said, "Looks fine to me. Here's how to beat the running: Don't drink anything after 7:30 PM and avoid sex and you won't pee nearly as much. Otherwise you are doing what comes naturely because of both activities. Don't diddle and don't drink-you will not be running to the bathroom, but will have quite a boring life. When I retire or die, find an honest Doctor, if you can, and when you have a problem go and find out what caused it. You may find it to be perfectly natural, and if not, he will show you how to deal with it," the doctor told him.
The doctor told him, that He-himself, preferred to keep his pipes clear in any way available and both of the above can't be beat for fun, relaxation, and healthy release. Right now, the drug industry is crying wolf to scare people into demanding drugs from their doctor and the drug companies are each allegedly paying some doctors about $13,000 each to distribute samples and prescribe their drugs. Sounds a lot like street drug dealing to me.
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Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1311 comments)
on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 at 9:22:32 PM
Make an appointment with my cousin, Doc Judy in Hawaii. Her fees are reasonable, she'll rent you her beach house for your visit, she treats people both medically and holistically, and best of all...she won't bullshit you.
I find this hysterically, ironically funny. I have a helluvah a time convincing doctors that I'm super sensitive to all medications. Half or a quarter of a pill is more than enough for me, even OTC medication, and most pills make me sick in one form or another. I have to fight with them to NOT give me medication.
Half the time it's easier to shut up, take the prescription, and trash it as I'm walking out the door. Better yet, I don't go in the first place.
Yet the couple of pills that I've relied on for years, I have a very hard time convincing them that they are the correct prescription.
Maybe the only stomach pill that works for me isn't the one they're getting paid to push.
And antiboitics. Forget it! My dentist, who knows my problem with them, gave me a prescription for an antiboitic he say is the mildest on the stomach. I filled it and the bottle sits unopened. I cured the gum infection with rinsing with hydrogen peroxide and a lot of brushing. In case it comes back I got a tiny bottle of an old Chinese remedy of tea tree oil that was recommended by a friend.
I swear, I look at that bottle of antibiotics and it might as well be filled with arsenic pills.
Pete, you're right, today's doctors are no more than legalized, criminal drug dealers.
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Sandy Sand (143 articles, 0 quicklinks, 196 diaries, 1379 comments)
on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 at 10:32:51 PM
Brings to mind court-appointed psychiatric drug regimens and testing for compliance in addition to mandatory participation in faith based recovery groups etc. (I know that wasn't your point, but it got me thinking...)
It was bad enough when we just had to deal with OTC commercials for flatulence, diarrhea, and the mysterious green fog emanating from the inside of a tennis shoe...
Now we're treated to great sing-a-longs like 'Viva Viagra!' and terms like erectile non-permanence restless testicle syndrome slickly packaged with a voice-over while a couple strolls along a secluded beach at sunset because all the cool beach-combers are playing full-contact eXtreme volleyball at the clubhouse and drinking the latest eXtreme sport/energy drink infused with eXtreme herpes medicine for those eXtreme breakouts...
When will they market eXtreme cancer and/or treatments for it?
I've got to wonder how a physician's point a view of the marketing has changed over the years if it has. I'd think at first it was probably somewhat annoying to be asked for specific drugs by all these self-diagnosers -but I'm sure the drug reps and Big Pharma eased the pain over the years... hell, people are fighting to get in the exam room for the latest advertisements, I guess! That is, those with some form of insurance...
I was sad to see Dennis pitch an endorsement toward Obama, and I'm not quite eager to jump on the Ron Paul train.
Wonder what kinda pill we need to get out of terminal Bush state?
Cheers,
Bid
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C.Bid (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 678 comments)
on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 12:22:47 AM
When will they market eXtreme cancer and/or treatments for it?, you ask.
They already are! much to the misfortune of my ears.
As always the Left Coast is ahead of everyone with Quixotic, nutzo, crazy, dumb, silly, inane, ridiculous, off-the-wall and sometimes foresighted and sensible schemes.
Hell, we started no-smoking in public places instead of letting market forces dictate what restaurants would welcome smokers and which wouldn't.
City of Hope and a couple of other cancer treatment centers have been running advertising for months that, in as many words say: You gots the cancer? Lucky You! Come to us. We make it fun for you to have your body filled with poisonous chemicals, and we treat you to history-making barfing bouts to give you tales to regale your friends with for the rest of your short miserable life. We guarantee to make you more miserable than if you did nothing. For an eXciting, hair-raising eXperience, no one can deliver the way we can. Then they obnoXiously repeat their phone number a mind-numbing ten times.
In the words of the late, great Jack Paar, I kid you, not.
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Sandy Sand (143 articles, 0 quicklinks, 196 diaries, 1379 comments)
on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 7:08:01 AM
...really. Maybe I'm stupid. Isn't Paul a libertarian? He's going to pass laws that would prevent drug companies from making and marketing drugs? He's goint to prevent physicians from prescribing drugs, or patients from taking them? He's a LIBERTARIAN. The government should get out of the way and let individuals and the free market do what suits them. He's a LIBERTARIAN. He's not going to ban drugs, or drug development, or drug marketing, or drug prescription or drug buying. LIBERTARIANS generally want to END prohibitions on drugs and at a minimum, legalize marijuana (something I completely agree with).
I agree with many of your complaints, but, I don't see what Ron Paul would do about a Doctor who would pad his bill, or cover his ass, by pushing unnecessary procedures. Are you suggesting he would take away the right to sell a service, or sue for damages? Is that what libertarians are about?
There are plenty of abuses, but they aren't typically caused by government, nor will they cease if govenment is removed from the process. AND, Paul thinks individuals should pay for health care, so if they don't have the money, tuff shit. DIE. Not the government's problem.
Yes, there are many problems, but putting Paul in charge of health care will solve some problems, and create others. The grass is always greener on the other side.
On balance, universal health care, like KUCINICH promotes, would be much better for America than a totally private system where health care is a perk for the rich.
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Robert Sargent (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 26 diaries, 303 comments)
on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 2:52:09 AM
LIBERTARIANISM is just another scam to promote corporate elite control over the people in place of STATE control. If you want to understand the future of true LIBERTY then spend some time learning about Anarchism, the philosophy that authority rests with the individual; That the individual has the ultimate authority over what they do and whom they choose as comrades, partners, allies, enemies. Not until we destroy authoritarian illusions, can we truly live as free thinking human beings. Law, order, common morality, elitism are all of the same centuries old concept of authoritarianism. This outdated concept proposes that a small group of elite authoritarians have some mythical ability to manage your welfare and your personal morality better than you the individual. That without their law and order, without their banks and corporations, without their authority, without their wars, the individual would fall into poverty and a vicious depravity. Meanwhile, these elite are in fact no different than you or me -- They are the very same human beings that we are; Except they control our thoughts and actions and exploit our dreams and passions for their own gain. This, comrades, is the face of modern slavery. And the revolution need not be anything more violent than saying, I refuse to work for your corporation and I refuse to buy your products and your "authority" means nothing to me. The first step is smash your TV. The second step is smash the radio. The third step, a hard one, is ditch the internet connection. All three are systems of mind control. The forth step is get to know the people who live in your community, everything you get from mass media, from information to the arts and entertainment can be found locally and with a personal interaction. The fourth step is to open a small business and do business in cash or for barter. The fifth step is don't charge, file, or pay any taxes. The sixth step is to find truth, beauty and leisure in your life, and treat others with courage, and compassion, and share your joy rather than horde. The seventh step is forge collectives and local solidarity against the infiltration of elite tyranny. Then you will be free. But you will never be free from vigilance.
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Shelby (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 27 comments)
on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 7:51:08 AM
1st)-Sandy, I have said the same thing to my doctor about portions, so have many of my colleagues-1/2-1/4 is usually enough and NO SHOTS! I break them in half or less if they are pills or capsules, once had the druggist repack them, cost a little more. I also have a good many other allergies.
2nd) Sarge. Did you take the link to his website. He says none of those things you advocate those are the things I advocate. Close them up and turn their work over to the major universities to run. The prices, I have been assured would drop on many drugs by 75%-90%. I would fund all of this by taxing the Hell out of the criminal, treasonous outsourcing bastards. I'd charge them with treason and exile the treacherous sonsofabitches.
3)- I virtually ran a city as consultant for 8 years and their [property values surged, crime was reduced and the city found creative revenue sources sans tax raises, by Not buying stupid stuff and we found the "greener grass" syndrome is negative because when things go amiss, people "Stay the course" I do not. When I made changes I initiated, the grass usually WAS greener. I am not big on "Staying the course" ever. I ran it like I ran a business, never doing anything the politicians did. 20 years ago I introduced renaming streets, parks, City Buildings, etc. for a year or perpetuity for a fee. It was a bonanza. We also leased prime properties to businesses creating an enterprise zone before the rest if the country knew what that meant. I designed the 1st auto-mall; unfortunately, the dopey auto dealers could not agree to share a building, to farking stupid.
3)-Shelby, you are right and wrong. Wrong in saying tat the elitists are just like us. They are not; they are more often less of everything it takes except connections to more of their kind. They succeed because they get No-Bid contracts, sweetheart contracts and bribes. In my experience, they are mostly inferior beings that think in their fantasy world they are superior that is why the French wisely lopped off their heads. Some people just cannot be potty-trained. They have been privileged with having the giftedness. We should reward giftedness and shun connected people, or exile them, but by first recapturing all of their wealth.
I agree and wrote about Dennis supporting Obama and feel as you do. Doctors, we have a family of doctors and Shelby we are "of Royal Blood" so i know a bit about Elitism. Oddly, my family was all-rebellious to the church and those who corrupted the state. Duke Bagnolo and Count Bagnolo started "Heresies-The Albigensian Heresy is my many times removed uncle's ((the Duke) answer to our Catholic Church errors and elitism.
Go to Castello Di' Bagnolo on line in the town of Bagnolo, between Firenza and Milano. There are 5 such named towns scattered around, some named for the baths (Bagno) some for the family (variously Bagnolo misspelled often in odd variations). Our family seldom "Stayed the Course" realizing to the dismay or popes, kings and mayors, that that was a term designed by idiots and conformed to by the addle brained as is the Bushites (Bushites is a term I coined in 2001).
I would hire men like Paul for the purpose I stated above and Kucinich for Attorney General and have him go after ALL the war criminals here and abroad and that includes Blair and I would hire geniuses from every field to run every phase of government. The Major Universities would run the drug industry. I think those the government labels as quacks and Nuts need to be interviewed and listened to. Every now and then one of them is a genius.
Geniuses sometimes get carried away so I would not stay the course with them either. Let them do what they do and if they get carried away, let them down softly and out. Government has never been as flexible as innovative businesses and not all businesses are innovative, especially not those which do busiess with government.
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Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1311 comments)
on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 8:35:09 AM
I took the link. Don't see anything about healthcare. I just don't see how Paul fits into the health care equation at all. Ron Paul's health care policy, like most of his policies, is seemingly based upon an ancient Italian principle: Caveat Emptor.
Also.. "I would fund all of this by taxing the Hell out of the criminal, treasonous outsourcing bastards. I'd charge them with treason and exile the treacherous sonsofabitches."
I'm worried about you, Professor. You are starting to sound as unstable as Doc Marble. Fortunately, there are pills that can calm you down!
I guess I'm okay with eliminating the outsourcing, (even though it would be an economic calamity*, and would violate the core of what Ron Paul is about), because it would mean that we'd have to allow in a whole lot more Mexicans!
You want to essentially nationalize the drug companies, by turning drug making over to public universities? I'm still not getting how there is anything about Ron Paul that is remotely in sync with anything you are advocating (other than, perhaps, the vaccination thing).
Having said all of that, and even though I'm starting to wonder if you are borderline crazy, I think we need you as city manager in my town!
*It sounds as viable as Mao's "Great Leap Forward"...a factory in everyone's back yard...that brought on the starvation of millions of Chinese. Our dollar couldn't possibly fall low enough, even with 4 more years of George Bush, for Amercican companies to export anything, or compete with imports, if "outsourcing" was completely eliminated.
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Robert Sargent (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 26 diaries, 303 comments)
on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 10:15:16 AM
I am neither a Libertarian nor an elitist; I am and have always been a Progressive, an FDR Progressive. I say use the best idea of everyone who has some good ideas and read what Ron Paul says about the Medical profession and refrain from generalizations. Generalizations lead to another sort of elitism-block-headed elitism.
Every movement has its bright ideas. Pluck from each movement the best ideas without the dangerous labels such as anarchist. Too many bright people were put to death as anarchists and that is what Americans were called by the Brits. Please do not make the mistake of labeling people.
FDR used people from every political background and every business background and a few bright Yachting buddies who were mostyly lounge lizards but very bright and very good at what they did know. When they failed he replaced them rapidly.
Go do the research, visits Ron Paul's site, Dennis Kucinich's site, read and listen to what they say. Every Movement, regardless of its origins has some great people with great ideas. Use them all! That is what the Spanish did ages ago and prospered with Christian, Jewish and Muslims before the Church created the Inquisition and Ghettoes-Read what Dostoyevsky in Brothers Karamazov, says about Jesus and the Inquisition, it is a brilliant and insightful comment on Organized Religions, government, Elitism, and generalizing and labeling people by euphemistic titles .
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Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1311 comments)
on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 8:53:14 AM
I wasn't labeling you as anything and I wasn't telling you the way you should think, in fact I never mentioned your name. I apologize if you felt offended, it was not my intention. In fact, you inspired me to give a rant on liberty, and I thank you for the pleasure. Anarchism is only profane to those who respect authority. The minions of religion, state, capitalism, law and order, have been far and away more violent and inhumane to mankind than any anarchist in their history books. The irony is modern society controls liberty and is against people forming their own concepts of community. In fact, most "anarchists" don't even know they're anarchist. They are the millions among us who live their lives within, yet outside of the various systems. The first rule of Anarchism is free will. In the context of our exchange, that means if you want to serve under systems of authority, I'm not going to stop you, it is your will. Or, I will not try to stop your will, unless you try to stop mine. I'm not talking utopia here. Merely, my individual liberty does not depend on converting you to be like me or be a part of my community. I have no issues or concern unless you try to infringe upon my liberty. And if your society has something that concerns me, then I might join in a limited alliance. It is the concept of individual liberty and community, verses imposed community. One example would be the Amish people and their community within the greater society around them. There's many other "collectives" within modern society that are more or less anarchist. So being an anarchist is merely rejecting outside authority. People have issues with Anarchism because most people don't really understand the concept of individual thought, liberty, morality, and community. The problem with authoritarian society, even democracy, is that it attempts to set in stone (or law) a universal morality, and that's the enemy of individual liberty. Anarchism is not an enemy of society unless the society is hostile toward liberty. In short, in a free and democratic society, there should be a place for Anarchists to live and be free, like everyone else.
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Shelby (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 27 comments)
on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 10:18:19 AM
Many native American tribes were pretty anarchistic (before there was such a term) and yet they formed larger alliances for various purposes without forced conscription. In fact, it could be argued that many native Americans had more liberty than we do today. Sitting Bull spoke on this topic.
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Shelby (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 27 comments)
on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 10:50:24 AM
Glad that we are on the same page on these issues.
I wrote about the Kucinich Obama thing and didn't get it either, unless he finds Obama simply less offensive than the others. Recall in the first Dem Debates, when Edwards and Clinton were closeted on stage afterwards. Kucinich accused them of trying to squeeze him out of future debates. So, maybe he still holds that grudge. He may have been right they did want to limit the number of "serious Candidates." I think it was Hillarie's idea, but not certain.
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Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1311 comments)
on Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 9:02:08 AM
