I just don't understand how any American can feel good about watching football, going bowling, waving their flags, when their government is committing such atrocities in the so-called name of freedom and democracy. I grieve for the families of those victims in New York; the families of those Afghanis who were just innocently trying to struggle through their lives; the allied soldiers dying in Iraq and their families trying to rationalize why; and the countless thousands of Iraqis who are still being killed, dragged out of their homes and called terrorists, while their wives and children are forced to witness such nightmares. If you are truly cognitive of what has happened, and what is still happening, then there's just no way you can sit around the table with your big fat turkeys, raising a glass and singing, "God Bless America". I must agree with Howard Zinn, "Why not, God bless everyone?".
And all of it predicated on the lie of 9-11.
We are inexorably a part of that lie by continuing our denial of its existence, and that makes us all a party to everything that has been happening as a result. It is incumbent upon the "US" and the rest of "us" to prove what really happened that fateful day. Let's go to court. We've got the likes of Griffin, Ryan, Fetzer, Jones, and countless others who have the expertise and moral integrity on our team. We've got science. We've got the truth. What have they got? A bullshit story any eighth grade science student could refute, and a bunch of experts who don't seem to mind going down in the annals of history as being dreadfully incompetent, however loyal, and completely unwilling to even debate their so-called findings, therefore, a bunch of anals.
And so the fascists are now getting the detention centers ready- those are for you "doubting" Americans you know - because the huge stinking pile of horse manure known as 9-11 isn't going to go away, rather it will just keep getting worse. Like a flood that starts from a few small drops, understanding of the truth will continue to grow and gain strength. They can't hide from truth. Truth is not spin, or what they tell their bootlicking media to cover. Truth doesn't care if they think they can keep on repeating the same lies, over and over, until the world has heard them enough times to believe them.
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out-- because I was not a communist; Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-- because I was not a socialist; Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-- because I was not a trade unionist; Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- because I was not a Jew; Then they came for me-- and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Pastor Martin Niemöller, 1945
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" - Arthur Schopenhauer
Don't be afraid of telling the truth regarding 9-11. Tell everybody you can - shout it out. Let them call you names, let them ridicule. We truly are very much alike, and just as I scorned the first person who told me while I still lived under the yoke of my own ignorance, you will plant the first seeds of doubt and inquiry within others. Over time, this crazy idea will move through its natural evolution into becoming accepted thought.
The operative question being whether we collectively let too much time elapse before those murderous tyrants plunge us further toward apocalyptic extinction.
What are you going to do about 9-11?
"There are none so enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free" - Goethe
Essays on 9/11 truth and globalism. In January 2007 there was an awakening in my life. Having just discovered the truth about 9/11, an internal struggle had to be reconciled. How does a moral, rational individual deal with the harsh realities concerning our world, and what can they do to expose the truth and realize justice for the victims, as well as the many lives taken in the subsequent wars?
We must all speak out about the 911 wtc controlled demolition. There were no airplanes - fake video fed to our mainstream tv. Why was the steel gathered and shipped to China (?) so quickly. Where is Barbara Olsen? And on and on ...
Thank you for writing about this. I hope that many others will rise and speak on this issue.
Aimee
Friday Harbor, WA USA
Support our troops. Bring them home now.
Stop funding the war military budget.
Stop them from stealing from our national budget.
If you are not angry then you are not paying attention.
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Aimee (0 articles, 2 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 113 comments)
on Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 11:45:41 AM
not to buy into the 'fake planes' disinfo. Some who talk about it simply do not know.The motives of others in the 9/11 truth movement may not be particularly pure..... the promulgation of stories about 'fake planes' and holograms ramming into WTC 1 and/or 2 is meant to discredit the movement as a whole.
To show the government conspiracy theory to be false one need only promote laws of science/physics and verifiable empirical data. That is all it takes.
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richard (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 664 comments)
on Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 12:09:41 PM
Peter, I think you stated it all rather well. And it is true that many people can't handle the truth, the cognitive dissonance is just too great. But once people do realize the truth about 9/11 then their views regarding the structure of our society and the meaning behind events in our country (and world) necessarily must change. Everything changes with that new perspective. And you can never go back to the old way of looking at our country and the world. And if you are like me, you become afraid but mostly you become angry. Really angry.
You get nauseated when you hear Bush, or Cheney, et. al., But that should be obvious. I also want to puke when I hear the Dems who are either part of it or too cowardly to try to do something, like the Clintons, Edwards, Kerry and even so-called independents like Bernie Sanders..... (where's the vomit bag?) Cowards and worse than traitors because they obfuscate and lie. And because they resist full, independent and thorough investigations of what happened on 9/11. Because they know the truth of what happened on 9/11 would destroy the maggot and disease infested government and oligarchy of the United States Empire. And possibly the shadow government behind it.
Dorothy was right. We are not in Kansas anymore. But neither are we in Oz. Rather, we are in a special hell made by the elites for the great mass of sheep known as the public. But some of us now know there is a goat and have an inkling of what the goat is doing. And that number is growing and growing every day.
dr. richard welser
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richard (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 664 comments)
on Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 11:52:00 AM
Thank you for this article. My whole family think I am a nut job. I will email the link to your article and hopefully this will let them at least open an eye just a little. The real facts are there, in plane sight, but people want to deny them. It hurts, it changes you forever, you can not go on as before, it shocks your brain, your senses, it rips you apart, but its the truth, and truth is far better than denial. Our Government did 911. They do not care who they kill. They have never cared who they kill. The truth is spreading fast. I for one, talk to everyone I can. Most do not look at me like a weirdo anymore, not like they did right after 911. I think the tide is turning. And YES, planes did hit the WTC..not like the first comment you received. Too many witnesses. anyway, something had to distract from the bombs in the basement. keep spreading the word.
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joyce (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 73 comments)
on Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 12:15:00 PM
The above is the opednews entry I wrote on June 4, 2005 ( that is more than a years ago and 500000 dead people are added, unbelievable) called - 9/11 Vicious Circle of Lawlessness.
I am an engineer. But this is not an engineering issue. It is a human issue.
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Mark Sashine (44 articles, 19 quicklinks, 228 diaries, 3267 comments)
on Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 1:34:45 PM
Any time someone calls you a nut case because you disbelieve the "Official Conpiracy Theroy" - challenge them to a SIMPLE experiment.
Get that old kerosene lamp out of the garage, from the closet, or basement, where you stashed it and fill the reservoir with kerosene (jet fuel and kerosense are nearly idenitcal: jet fuel is filtered for purity)
Get a peice of steel - a length of rebar about a 12 inches long would be good.
Clamp that rebar so it will be sticking right in the hottest part of the flame from the lamp.
If you have a camera and a clock handy, get those ready too so you can document this experiment.
Light the the lamp.
Go get a sandwich... and a thick novel. Better make that several thick novels because this is going to take a long time.
That steel is not going to get hot enought to melt and bend even if you sit there all day because the flame will never get hot enough and the steel itself will dissapate the heat -- That pesky old Second Law of Thermodynamics.
'More' fuel will only make the flame burn 'longer,' but not 'hotter.'
So now you're sitting there waiting for your rebar to melt? Search some of the following on the internet: We have to ask: WHO wanted those buildings to collapse enough to INVEST the amount of man-hours and money in the operation to place explosives?
Who had the building security systems turned off over preceeding weekends to carrry out that operation?
AND - What ever happen to the several TRILLION Dollars which Secretary of Defense Rumsfled told Congress was missing and unaccounted for on September 10th? And WHAT were those missing several TRILLION Dollars used to pay FOR? (Search the web for more on that aspect of the the story, it's there.)
Were those missing monies perhaps used to fund an off-the books, black budget operation that put homing devices or remote control technology in some planes? Was Dov Zackheim in charge of THAT operation? (Search 'Dov Zackheim')
And WHO scheduled those several/numerous "DRILLS" for that exact morning - the drills which caused numerous government agencies to have their resourses off doing 'drills' instead of responding?
WHOSE office is the clearing house for drills of that sort...? (That info is available on the net too - if you look for it...)
Ah heck... better yet - when someone calls you a 'nut case' for not buying the official explanation for the events of that day - try this reply:
"Just becauseYOU can't stay informed about history or current events doesn't make ME a conspiracy theorist..." Hmmmm?
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mrk * (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 295 comments)
on Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 2:26:14 PM
Although I agree that the fall of the towers looked like controlled demolition and not the result of a building fire, you are not helping your argument by describing a test that is not a good simulation of the conditions. I shot myself in the foot trying to use this argument on a physics professor I know. Of course a beam with a flame at one point is just going to conduct heat away from the flame. However, inside a building, the heat would be contained and temperatures could rise higher than the actual burning temperature of kerosene/jet fuel.
Whether the conditions really would concentrate the heat sufficiently to melt steel in the time between the impact and the collapse is another story. The more I think about it, the more implausible it looks.
I think a better weakness in the official story is how unlikely it is that spontaneous fires would have been synchronized well enough to cause symmetrical, simultaneous collapse of all the support columns. Demolition experts need to set charges very precisely for buildings to implode like that, so what is the likelihood of it happening accidentally?
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khedges1 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 19 comments)
on Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 11:07:52 PM
With respect to the relevant factor, the presence of the super-strong structure of massive steel beams available to wick heat away from any fire, the heat was not contained. Even the fires were not "contained" inasmuch as there were gaping holes in the exterior walls and the fires were not raging per se because even with the exterior holes, there was not enough oxygen to support clean burning - rather, the dense black smoke identified lower intensity, oxygen-starved fires. And the preponderance of the jet fuel (kerosine essentially) was burned off in the huge fireballs at the time of impact. Heavens, people even walked through the area to stand at the exterior walls waving for help that never came. And fire fighters reported isolated pockets of fire they asserted could be easily controlled.
Remember as well that any hydrocarbon fire... any hydrocarbon fire not in a blast furnace where oxygen is introduced artificially ... can only burn at about 1700 degrees F, whereas the melting of steel requires 2700 degrees. And again, there was no blast furnace inside any of the three WTC towers that dropped like stones that day.
Recall also, if you will, the pools of molten iron/steel that remained in the footprints of each demolished building. Hydrocarbon fires, as is clear from the above comment about temperatures, could not have produced the molten steel.
Perhaps a better experiment might have been to place a box around the end of the rebar with the remainder protruding out of the box. Have a furnace heating element in the box burning any hydrocarbon fuel (natural gas works well in my furnace....). Then see just how hot your rebar gets.... You can let it burn that way for the next entire year (though your house my get too warm in the summer) and the rebar will never even glow.
The argument about the heat from the fires being sufficient to cause collapse has been debunked over and over. Yet it is still offered as a mantra-like excuse. Much as it was offered the day of the attack by an apparent shill during an 'on-the-street" "interview" in which he strives to help set the government's meme... its "theory" about the collapse from the very beginning. And some people insists on continuing to believe such drivel.
Only CD. Only CD could have brought those buildings down and the thermite/thermate residue found in the residue of the buildings puts paid to the government conspiracy theory.
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richard (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 664 comments)
on Friday, February 16, 2007 at 5:04:43 AM
Although, for your professor, there are images of people waiving from the blackened hole - sorta' discredits the idea that the contained heat rose enough to melt the steel in that time. I don't know too many people that can withstand 200 degrees, let alone 1000+. Not to mention, everybody forgets that WTC 5 burned untill it was a husk and didn't fall.
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Ben (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 46 comments)
on Friday, February 16, 2007 at 10:44:21 AM
Thanks for the 911 article.. We need more like this.. Too many here are still distracted by the republican vs democrat types of politics.. Time for people to realize that THIS is what is important before it's too late..
Thanks again and look forward to reading more from you.
Joe
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J Martin (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 5 comments)
on Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 2:44:26 PM
I wrote this a while back. To read the full article, follow the link at the end.
Presenting an uncluttered account of 9/11 inconsistencies is no easy task. The official account is so haphazard and full of holes, it's very hard to stay focused on one problem without being diverted into a string of related problems. With that in mind, try to forgive the following "rapid fire" outline:
We've got the "raging jet fuel theory" which (even if true) could have never generated sufficient heat to produce the molten steel found in all three buildings. In a logical world, we can't even begin discussing what caused the collapse of the buildings until we've identified what liquefied the steel support columns. Why? Because whatever liquefied the steel support columns is logically the most likely cause of collapse!
Another problem with the jet fuel theory (as we've already pointed out) is WTC 7 wasn't struck by a plane or burned with jet fuel. Since it must be assumed something else destroyed WTC 7, it's reasonable to assume something else could have destroyed the North and South towers as well.
To date, FEMA has only been able to come up with a "Diesel Fuel Theory" for building 7. Check the maximum burn temperature for diesel fuel and you'll run into the same problem we ran into with the two towers; it is no where near sufficient to cause the molten steel found at the site. Furthermore, when addressing how diesel fuel might have contributed to the collapse of WTC 7, FEMA is on the record as saying: "the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence. Further research, investigation, and analysis are needed to resolve this issue." The attacks took place in 2001. How many more years will it take?
Now is a good time for a logical question: - How long would it take FEMA to "resolve the issue" of what caused building 7 to collapse if they were allowed to consider explosives in the building? I'm betting they could have a universally accepted, reproducible theory in a day. From there it would only be a matter of figuring out how the explosives got into the building. (...gotta be easier than trying to figure out how to bend the laws of physics.)
...so to speak, on the issue of 911 Truth Acceptance or Persuasion.
I do think if we had more people coming out with their own personal stories on 911 Epiphany (there's a title for ya), it would make the concept more mainstream.
I passed a key two paragraphs on to my Denier brother, and I feel that it will help.
You don't detail what transpired in the one hour that shined the light for you...can you elaborate?
Thanks for Truthers everywhere...I think it was a stellar effort that was well-written and concise!! Go Team Truth, Go!!
It inspired me to write some new sign ideas, to add to the 100 plus signs I use here in Portland (only a few of which are 911 related, to date) - below.
Best,
Styve
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911...the Truth Shall Set You Free!!
911 "Official Story" - Who'd believe that?!
911 - What a Load!
911 => War on Terror...Say What?!
Is Bin Laden Iraqi?
911 - Think About It!
911 - I Wasn't Born Yester- or that day!!
Watch "911 - Press For Truth"...and Get Back To Me!
911 Official Story - Is It Bedtime, Daddy??
Mom...Tell Me the 911 Story Again!!
911 - Help...I Need to Hear the Truth!!
911 - Neocon Wet Dream
Without 911, Where Is the Foundation?!
9-11 - The Day the Constitution Died
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Styve (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 37 comments)
on Friday, February 16, 2007 at 2:33:24 AM
My "conversion" happened while watching a video of a speech titled: September Eleventh; Should the truth be revealed or concealed? by David Ray Griffin
If only we could have a politician like Griffin - a man who espouses truth, reason and integrity.
As a theologian, Griffin offers us a way forward I feel - ultimately because he manifests such a positive aspect in the revealing of truth, all the while dealing face to face with such an ugly reality.
I'd like to pay tribute and give thanks to David Ray Griffin, I know that I'm not alone in my respect and admiration for this man as one of the great critical thinkers of our time.
Peter Zaza
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CasaZaza (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 110 comments)
on Friday, February 16, 2007 at 9:30:16 AM
Everyone knows the truth. Most are simply ignoring it.
Just like they ignore alcoholism, family dysfunction, getting health problems checked out for fear that it's something serious, and the crimes of politicians who blow just enough smoke and move just enough mirrors to provide a convenient excuse for not calling them on their perpetual bullshit.
In my humble opinion, here is an excellent place to start with those who have yet to accept the reality of 9/11:
911 is (not was) the most important single event in my lifetime, and I'm 62. It was a mass murder of thousands of human beings designed to promote a war without end. NO ONE IN THE POLITICAL ARENA IS WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IT!
Mayor Rudy's emergency bunker was housed in Bldg 7, so what in hell was super-dude doing walking the streets of NYC holding a hankie over his mouth? And we're to consider putting this guy in the White House?
Our Senate can't even agree to debate a non-binding resolution criticizing Bush's "surge". I'll take bets on their willingness to even discuss the events of 911.
The look is toward the '08 elections. Hillary won't say that her vote for entering Iraq was a mistake. Big news, right? Somebody ask her what she thinks of the 911 Commission Report! Ask them all. Not gonna happen.
This issue should be on the floor of Congress, not only the internet blogs and sites like OpEd and Universal Seed. Why won't anyone talk about this? Simple. It's REALLY dangerous.
By the way, a couple of years ago, my wife and I were entertaining some friends. The topic of 911 came up, we voiced our concerns, they got up and stormed out. We haven't spoken since. Interesting how frightening an alternative point of view can be.
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Angelo (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 147 comments)
on Friday, February 16, 2007 at 8:33:30 AM
and that it is to be a 'hit piece' on 9/11 truth ( article at www.prisonplanet.com)
and it will push the bogus pop psychology bull crap about the psychopathology of folks who believe in "conspiracy theories". Hell, I guess that really means I'm messed up because I am a neuropsychologist who has great "inner subjective certainty" (a la Wittgenstein) that 9/11 was an inside job.
Notice that the government shills always, always ad hominem the 9/11 truthers. They cannot argue the facts. They've lost that battle. Now it is all psyops and disinfo. and general slurs.....
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richard (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 664 comments)
on Friday, February 16, 2007 at 2:59:54 PM
