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October 20, 2007 at 14:26:38

"Beat" Camp

by Mumia Abu-Jamal (Posted by Hans Bennett)     Page 2 of 2 page(s)

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Schools, especially in Black and Latina neighborhoods, are increasingly training grounds for failure.

Also, with the popular pollution of culture, there is the spread of the worst, most anti-life, and misogynist ideas imaginable; usually through music.



Cut off from the academic life of the nation, this cultural pollution seeks to justify various forms of street-hustling as the only way of survival.

Again, we see evidence of the war against youth. It's almost as if the generation of elders are envious of the very quality of youth, and are utilizing state power to destroy them.

De industrialization, state militarization, the failure of education, and cultural pollution are stages in this pervasive war.

The re incarceration of Mychal Bell, the recently released member of the Jena 6, is a part of this ongoing war.

Children aren't children; they are merely young combatants, who should be terrorized, just like their elders.

Unfortunately, I predicted the outcome in Florida to other guys here on Death Row.

I'm sorry that I was right.

--(c) '07 maj 

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I'm a 29 year old male. 
TyI'm a 29 year old male. 

Court Case

The prosecutor deliberately lost the case and should be disbarred. First of all the defendants should have been charged with 2nd degree murder not manslaughter. Second the prosecutor should have argued that Anderson died because he was beaten. Instead he argued that Anderson died from the ammonia capsules which the evidence did not support. Third the prosecutor should have made an effort to get some black people on the jury.

 

by Ty (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 888 comments) on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 10:31:07 AM
 


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ArchieFormer Lawyer, current Business Consultant,history buff, Christian, father of 2 sons and a supporter of democratic government.

Beat

Another egregious example of "southern justice" which means no justice at all. It amazes me that anyone would even want to visit a place like Florida with all its perveristies. I for one won't even consider a Caribbean cruise because they all leave from that state. Yuck!

by Archie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1283 comments) on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 3:29:45 PM
 


37 year old Bid rose well above the ignorant environs of his upbringing and filled his mind with the extremes of subversive underground counterculture and illegal substances until he wound up sitting naked on the end of his bed in one of his empty rooms of this world, bleeding, and trying to braid a noose to hang himself with out of a trashbag that contained the last of his worldly belongings... Then he cut off all his hair and moved straight away to the wild unknown country where he could not ...

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C.Bid37 year old Bid rose well above the ignorant environs of his upbringing and filled his mind with the extremes of subversive underground counterculture and illegal substances until he wound up sitting naked on the end of his bed in one of his empty rooms of this world, bleeding, and trying to braid a noose to hang himself with out of a trashbag that contained the last of his worldly belongings... Then he cut off all his hair and moved straight away to the wild unknown country where he could not ...

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The reincarceration of Michael Bell...

was in relation to his being on probation when charged with another crime (hence he 'violated' the terms of his probation) that resulted in his probation being withdrawn... it's a no brainer.  It has happened to me before too, and I'm white. 

As far as the 'predominately white' jury is concerned, why didn't any black members of the jury refuse to have a consensus with the verdict?  Or is it, in this instance, that 'predominately white' means 'all white'?  If it doesn't, then the complaint needs to be aimed at the black jurors -as they could have prevented such a verdict...

And, BTW... we've had the discussion before about the south and racism.  Don't be so ignorant!  Geez...

by C.Bid (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 732 comments) on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 6:44:43 PM
 


Armed with word, song, and sequencer, Mars delivers social analysis, dreams and blueprints for change. She survived the 1999 National Poetry Slam, has performed all over Chicago, and has been a featured speaker at many political rallies. Born in New England in the radical 60's, Mars is a veteran political activist, performance artist/musician, chocoholic, early childhood educator, photographer, sky-watcher, single mom of a rebel in training, and proud African-american bowl of gumbo.
Mars CaultonArmed with word, song, and sequencer, Mars delivers social analysis, dreams and blueprints for change. She survived the 1999 National Poetry Slam, has performed all over Chicago, and has been a featured speaker at many political rallies. Born in New England in the radical 60's, Mars is a veteran political activist, performance artist/musician, chocoholic, early childhood educator, photographer, sky-watcher, single mom of a rebel in training, and proud African-american bowl of gumbo.

Rights+responsibility? Or MY rights are MY responsibility?

"As far as the 'predominately white' jury is concerned, why didn't any black members of the jury refuse to have a consensus with the verdict?  Or is it, in this instance, that 'predominately white' means 'all white'?  If it doesn't, then the complaint needs to be aimed at the black jurors -as they could have prevented such a verdict..."

 

Yes, it is the responsibility of Blacks to fight racism by ourselves, starting with making sure that we are the most Perfect Human Beings Imaginable.  Otherwise, why would any white people or others stand up for us?  Maybe that's why there weren't more of you in Jena -- afterall, I'm a Black single mom in Chicago but that shouldn't have stopped me from going -- and since i didn't go, why should any WHITE person have? 

by Mars Caulton (1 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 83 comments) on Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 12:07:50 PM
 


37 year old Bid rose well above the ignorant environs of his upbringing and filled his mind with the extremes of subversive underground counterculture and illegal substances until he wound up sitting naked on the end of his bed in one of his empty rooms of this world, bleeding, and trying to braid a noose to hang himself with out of a trashbag that contained the last of his worldly belongings... Then he cut off all his hair and moved straight away to the wild unknown country where he could not ...

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C.Bid37 year old Bid rose well above the ignorant environs of his upbringing and filled his mind with the extremes of subversive underground counterculture and illegal substances until he wound up sitting naked on the end of his bed in one of his empty rooms of this world, bleeding, and trying to braid a noose to hang himself with out of a trashbag that contained the last of his worldly belongings... Then he cut off all his hair and moved straight away to the wild unknown country where he could not ...

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I've already discussed Jena in another thread...

Reincarceration of Bell = Violation of Probation

It's happened to me too.  Tell me, that is racism?

Knocking someone unconcious and a group of people then proceeding to kick the @#$%# out of them is quite possibly attempted murder... 

I was charged with as much (among other things) after blinding, with my thumbs, a skinhead who attacked me years ago because the bass player for a band I was in at the time was a black man and we had played a show at a (unbeknowst to us at the time) regular hangout for scum like that...  I still have a great scar on my head from a Budweiser bottle.  I intended to seriously hurt him -but not kill him...  I was still charged though, and I acted in defense of myself and others (not that they needed it.... as our bass player broke another one's leg).  So was that racism that I was charged?  I don't recall anyone from the black community patting me on the back or offering their support.  Nor did they after I was stabbed in another city by another white supremist during a street brawl...  Admittedly, my friends and I often led a charge to drive out groups actively engaged in sowing hatred and therefore quite often had ourselves to blame... but I never blamed the absence of any black soldiers or single black mothers from Chicago for the situations I got into.  I did what I thought was right. 

I can understand your anger that nothing was done to the white culprits, but that doesn't mean that Bell and Co. should not have been charged.  I care for justice as well -on both sides... and I feel that the true travesty is the failure of those involved to act on the obvious implications of hanging nooses and brandishing guns at the black students.  Perhaps the fight would never have happened...  The Jena Six also could have chose not to become violent as well.

I hope, now, you will understand my comments...  

by C.Bid (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 732 comments) on Friday, October 26, 2007 at 3:08:16 PM
 


37 year old Bid rose well above the ignorant environs of his upbringing and filled his mind with the extremes of subversive underground counterculture and illegal substances until he wound up sitting naked on the end of his bed in one of his empty rooms of this world, bleeding, and trying to braid a noose to hang himself with out of a trashbag that contained the last of his worldly belongings... Then he cut off all his hair and moved straight away to the wild unknown country where he could not ...

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C.Bid37 year old Bid rose well above the ignorant environs of his upbringing and filled his mind with the extremes of subversive underground counterculture and illegal substances until he wound up sitting naked on the end of his bed in one of his empty rooms of this world, bleeding, and trying to braid a noose to hang himself with out of a trashbag that contained the last of his worldly belongings... Then he cut off all his hair and moved straight away to the wild unknown country where he could not ...

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In response to your question though...

Unless the claim can be supported that the prosecutor in the Fla. case 'intentionally lost'...  I don't understand your comment.  Did he fail to sway the black jurors?  Shouldn't some of the blame be directed also at them?  How do they escape the responsibility to fairly try the case and if they didn't object to the verdict, why is it only the white people's fault?  What were the Judge's instructions to the jury?  Without the 'inside' info, I doubt we could reasonably come to the right conclusion...  I honestly don't know that much about the case, but caution against claims that it's 'typical southern justice'.  That's absolutely ignorant.

It IS different from the Jena case, though, in that the law was only enforced and active when it was blacks breaking the law and not when whites were making overt threats of violence and lynching -which, at least to me, deserves serious consequences that the law should have delivered...  I would hope that the Jena Six's lawyers will be able to establish that these young students were 'in fear for their lives'... but the case does not look like it will go that way.

by C.Bid (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 732 comments) on Friday, October 26, 2007 at 3:57:13 PM
 

 

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