5) 50 to 60 people attended. Everyone was in civilian dress, except one Russian.
6) Other countries may have had military there, but they came under their respective civilian titles.
7) UFO topic was addressed. The Russians are very paranoid about the west. Putin is not very trusting. This frustrated our source greatly. Our source believes the Russians will eventually come around; "They always come back to the table." This mistrust appears to be an ongoing issue between East & West.
8) The religious implications of contact came up during the meeting. It turned into a 20 minute debate. Our source had to reel it in and refocus the meeting. It seems that the Indians are very difficult to deal with on this issue of the religious implications regarding contact. Population is a major factor in how nation-states deal with a new paradigm. The Indian's world view has led to an unsustainable food, energy and water demand. Source stated that the world must gets its population and resource use under control. ET will help, but we must show them that we intend to live within our constraints. If we don't show some semblance of intent, they simply will not help.
9) Source said the 2013 date of official contact is wrong. That is the date when things heat up. The real date of contact is 2017. It is on this date when very large craft will appear above cities and sit. There will be NO use of force; they will just sit there. Source stated the "Independence Day" film was close, but their ships are not that big and, again, no use of force will occur. Our source cannot reveal his source for the 2017 date. His source is very high up in the government/military/intelligence structure.
10) Source stated that it is our choice how we embrace this contact.
11) The ET's who will arrive on 2017 are referred to as "The Controllers." They are a "galactic federation" type group; however, "galactic federation" is not the real name for their group--it is hypothetical name used as a reference.
12) The controllers have a keen sense of freedom and free will. They will not intervene and help humanity if humanity does not show them we want their help. If some entropic event happens (nuclear war), the controllers will not make contact. "This is something they will not tolerate," our source stated.
13) The controllers will not give us technology to expand our ability to feed ourselves if we do not recognize the necessity to stabilize our population growth. They don't want our planet's population to double because of a technological innovation seeded by them. Our source used India as an example, " India has over 1 billion people. It is clearly a country out of balance in terms of its population size."
14) A contentious moment in the meeting had to do with the religious implications of contact. It is this issue which is of most concern. Our source stated that the more secular societies will adjust more easily to contact than the fundamentalist. He stated," The Roman Catholic countries will not have a rough time, except for the population problem; the Roman Catholics already have three Gods in one, so accepting others is not that much of a stretch. The dividing point is going to be the containment of population. The Protestant countries will deal fairly easily with contact. So will countries with indigenous religions connected to nature. The Muslim, Hindu, and fundamentalist Christian religions will have the most difficult time, possibly even the elimination of said religions; we can expect mass suicides, social unrest and upheaval. The ETs will help with re-programming and the concept of an inclusive galactic order. However, society will have to step up to the plate to assist - one on one - those people who have shattered belief systems The Chinese will have no problem because of the Buddhist and Taoist influences."
Dr. Michael Salla is an internationally recognized scholar in international politics, conflict resolution, US foreign policy and the new field of 'exopolitics'. He is author/editor of five books; and held academic appointments in the School of International Service& the Center for Global Peace, American University, Washington DC (1996-2004); the Department of Political Science, Australian National University, Canberra, Australia (1994-96); and the Elliott School of International Affairs, George Washington University, Washington D.C., (2002). He has a Ph.D in Government from the University of Queensland, Australia, and an M.A. in Philosophy from the University of Melbourne, Australia. He has conducted research and fieldwork in the ethnic conflicts in East Timor, Kosovo, Macedonia, and Sri Lanka, and organized peacemaking initiatives involving mid to high level participants from these conflicts.
Please note that there is no email address or contact information to contact / collaborate the information in this story deom the authors source.
On a scale of 0 - 10, 0 being the lowest and 10 being the highest, I give this story a -5. To coin the lady from the Wendy's commercial, "where's the beef."
I have learned through experience that reports from this source cannot be considered as reliable.
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Rob McConnell (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments)
on Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 12:25:58 PM
You will never be able to get any kind of reliable, citeable source on any material of this kind.
But how reliable have the news reports (with many citations) been concerning our involvements overseas? Not very, to say the least. We are bombarded by lies that cite liars who are reporting on falsehoods. Because of this, I would be more hesistant to trust something that did actually have some kind of official stamp on it.
This article does not purport to be anything that it is not. It is leaked information and speculation as to what is going on behind many closed doors. I am glad that I can be privy to it, regardless of the lack of contact information and "reliable" sources.
Whatever comes of this, submission to UN rule should never be allowed. No matter what their "controllers" might be saying.
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Ferdinand (16 articles, 4 quicklinks, 23 diaries, 194 comments)
on Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 1:17:30 PM
It's not clear to me which sources you want confirmation of? If it's Clay and Shawn Pickering, they are willing to discuss the accuracy of their reporting of the information relayed to them by their source while maintaiing confidentiality. Clay Pickering's email is: clay5star@yahoo.com.
As for the two inside sources mentioned in the article, for the moment, confidentiality is required. As you might appreciate, these are individuals with security clearances who have to ensure that they proceed in a way that satisfies the constraints upon them in leaking information of this nature.
However, I do encourage you to find alternative sources to confirm that the UN Meeting on Feb 12 went ahead, and that a document was circulated to attendees, and then taken to key ministeries of different countries. 50-60 people attended and received copies of the document(s) so I do not expect it will be too difficult to confirm these issues. If further independent confirmation of the meeting and document(s) is found, then that will help substantiate the accuracy of the information received so far.
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Michael Salla (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 25 comments)
on Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 2:01:49 PM
It looks like two sources to me? Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source and what Dr. Salls had been told by his independent source. The new post has Clay's email. Slamming this story with "a -5 & where's the beef," seems a little premature to me.
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Franklin Fields (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 15 comments)
on Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 9:22:48 PM
Who gives the ailens the right to dictate to us anything. Advanced technology does not equate with advanced spritual or ethical actions. They should be requesting permission from us to visit or even be here. The CONTROLLERS?? These folks should keep on going to another place that wishes to submit to domination and Control!!! Be very wary of this type of behavior.
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freedomrider (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 22 comments)
on Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 3:28:40 PM
Arthur C. Clarke wrote about this in 1953. They (the aliens) would just come and set up shop over all the major cities in the world. Geez, it's deja vu, all over again! Not being facetious, but there are some visionaries amongst us.
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Cinderfella (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 62 comments)
on Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 11:21:02 PM
I have a couple questions, which I think all should ask concerning the claims of the 'in the know' regarding this article should it indeed come to be valid in the future.
1) "....the date when things heat up." (And just what is puposedly going to heat up may I ask and why? Is something not being said here?)
2) "Controllers"? ...did I not just read in the article something about "The controllers have a keen sense of freedom and free will." (Is there something wrong with this statement? Obviously they speak of their own and not ours?)
Many know there is something big in the works regarding the 'Alien' issue, a whispered for 'Cosmic Eyes Only' kind of something. For instance, as reported this past week, what intel has had those employed at Skunk Works going into emotional 'meltdown' about a soon to come event/situation? Grown men sobbing, too terrified to speak of it got my attention! How bout you?
I believe we should ask, is this going to be an 'authentic alien' en-mass visitation? Or are the 'men behind the curtain' just going to yank our chain, to fool and frighten the 'sheeple', by producing a grammy winning 'holographic show' of mass invasion to put the final nail in the coffin of global-national freedom and soverignty, or will it be just a faux rendition of the Second Coming? Repleat with Christ, angels and ET?
"There is no neutral ground in the universe. Every square inch, every split second is claimed by God and counterclaimed by Satan." C.S. Lewis
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Azlan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments)
on Friday, February 22, 2008 at 12:11:00 AM
"For instance, as reported this past week, what intel has had those employed at Skunk Works going into emotional 'meltdown' about a soon to come event/situation? Grown men sobbing, too terrified to speak of it gotmy attention! How bout you? "
Can you please provide the url(s) or sources to where I can read more about this? THank you very much!
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Nestor (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments)
on Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 8:04:28 PM
2013?! What about what the Mayan calendar? December 21, 2012 man's rein on Earth ends! Where are the lawyers for the UN? Didn't they read the fine print in the documents coming from these slimy little green hucksters?
Damn-it! Someone get these "Controllers" back on the line! Move that date up! Heck, with all that's going down we can't wait another, 4 or 12 days, let alone years for the kind of help we need. By 2017, maybe even 2012, there won't be anyone to greet them when they land. Maybe that's the plan?
What's the hold-up? Hindus? Screw them! Let them get use to the idea along with the rest of us! Hell, what are they going to do? They're living in cardboard boxes wearing loin-cloth using a river as a bathroom for crying out loud! Is some alien technology suppose to be scared of them? What is this the battle of the Ewoks? I don't hear anyone worrying about the Muslims and it seems to me they're a lot more volatile than the Hindus. And to make the assertion Christians will make it easy after all the carnage they committed "in the name of God" is naive at best. If there's any one good thing that could come out of these little bastards exposing themselves it would be to make all current organized religions obsolete.
So hurry up! Tell us what to do to make it happen. Do we place tin-foil on our heads? Paint "come on down" on our roof-tops? What?
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Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 1398 comments)
on Friday, February 22, 2008 at 12:20:49 AM
"ET will help, but we must show them that we intend to live within our constraints. If we don't show some semblance of intent, they simply will not help."
If ET is counting on us to get our act together before they help - we're doomed. The only thing mankind has shown himself to be good at is screwing things up. If ET thinks we're going to within 9 years reverse tens-of-thousands of years of idiocy, we might as well just get drunk.
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Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 1398 comments)
on Friday, February 22, 2008 at 12:34:41 AM
...I guess Fox Moulder was right...the truth is out there. All I can say is if we really want to take a ride to the stars, we need to get our collective doodie together. Otherwise, they'll pass us by in favor of a species that isn't so tied to its reptilian brain.
Where's my foil hat when I need it?
Blessed be! Pappy
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Pappy (61 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 860 comments)
on Friday, February 22, 2008 at 3:24:08 PM
Really, we are kind of stupid as bi-pedals go and will likely go extinct before we evolve and certainly before that Armageddon we have heard so much about on the History channel, arrives. Of course I refer to the actual Armageddon, not the one prosperity church preachers and cable tv channels made up for themselves. Look over here at the jangly keys, don't look at that man behind the curtain!!
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Victrola (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 16 comments)
on Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 1:28:23 PM
that there were others out there, and I've always considered it a possibility myself. I don't like to think that the governments of the world would keep it such a secret, not trust us to handle it. I've also read several books that had so much blacked out information I had to wonder, if extraterrestrials aen't visiting, why does the government keep so much secret about UFO sightings?
I still don't believe or disbelieve. The idea still fascinates me, and I guess time will tell.
But wouldn't it be better if we didn't need someone else to tell us to stop nuclear armament, to take care of the environment, and not to overpopulate? Wouldn't it be nice if we just did all that on our own?
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SpiritBlooms (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 55 comments)
on Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 1:50:28 PM
Does anyone know or have any idea about whether the United States is eagerly pursuing the missile defence shield because of anything to do with the possible extra-terrestrials? I always assumed the defence shield was bulit to defend against the rising power of other nations on earth. Maybe the United States is building a missile defence shield under the guise of defending against other nations, when in reality they are covertly preparing a defence against extra-terrestrials. Possibly the defence shield has the dual capacity to defend against terrestrial or extra-terrestrial attack, and provided that there were questions this week about why the U.S went to inordinate lengths to shoot down a satellite a few days ago, maybe it has something to do with extra-terrestrials. If the missile defence shield is related somehow to guarding against hostile extra-terrestrials, i am not clear as to what it means that the U.S. is not co-operating with all nations on earth, but is allowing-in a selection to be part of the protected. I always assumed humans would interact with extra-terrestrials as one- present one human front, one species, one to speak on behalf of all humans. But it seems the elect are few, and those few maybe harber some Christian eschatological vision. I'm not sure what to make of this, other than it could all be wrong LOL.
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Jerry Lutancey (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments)
on Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 1:40:38 PM
