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October 12, 2007 at 05:45:44

Ron Paul Supporters Prove CNBC's Ratings Stink

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There were just over 7,000 votes cast in their poll. Ron Paul garnered 75% of the vote. This means approximately 5,250 votes were cast for Ron Paul, leaving the other 8 candidates with a combined total of approximately 1,750 votes.

If we are compelled to abide by the mainstream media's "scientific" curve, then we are allowed to give Ron Paul no more than, say, 2% of the total. This means we can add approximately 36 votes for Ron Paul onto the 1,750, throwing out 5,214 Ron Paul votes. This leaves us with a grand total of 1,786 votes cast on CNBC's post-debate poll.

What do I see in this? Either a)There was no spamming, in which case Ron Paul supporters outnumber CNBC viewers by far, or b)As CNBC claims, Ron Paul's total has to match the "scientific" polls, making everything else "spam," meaning CNBC had only 1,786 viewers who voted in the poll.

From what I can tell, CNBC should be very concerned about its own ratings. The old media is dead. If polls showed that more than .05% of the population watches CNBC, I couldn't believe it. I would have to discard those poll results. Maybe CNBC is trying to conceal its piss poor ratings.

How else do you explain the supporters of a man garnering "2%" in the "scientific" polls organizing so effectively that they are able to skew poll results of a network television station 3-to-1 in their favor, against 8 other candidates?

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Firmly progressive and seeking a better America that looks to all issues of tolerance and compassion as a virtue.
EricFirmly progressive and seeking a better America that looks to all issues of tolerance and compassion as a virtue.

They Pulled The Same Stunt

with the Polls after the Democrat debate when Kucinich pulled way ahead of the pack. In fact, they tried three different polls for that one, all three of which were pulled because Kucinich lead each one.

The media knows who their Republican masters want to run and run against, and they are obiediently trying to massage their polls and their reporting to coincide with that master plan.

by Eric (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 34 comments) on Friday, October 12, 2007 at 8:26:32 AM

Imposing virtue at the point of the gun is not virtuous ... giving others' money is not charity.
tremtieImposing virtue at the point of the gun is not virtuous ... giving others' money is not charity.

If Ron Paul wins ...

I'll tell you one thing, if Ron Paul wins or even comes close, it will sound the death knell of mainstream media. Their credibility would be lower than the ground. Frankly, I welcome it. For too long, too few people have had too much control over public information. The people as creators and consumers of news would be much less vulnerable to manipulation, and we'd be much more likely to get all sides of a story, not just the "story line" that the MSM advances.

by tremtie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Friday, October 12, 2007 at 10:13:16 AM

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CNBC Poll Less Than Scientific

Eric - I absolutely appreciate the discussion and think Ron Paul is a very viable candidate. However as a technology expert I can say the CNBC poll was less than scientific and very unsecure. For this particular poll they posted, it was extremely easy to 'spam' it from the comfort of someone's own home.

All that was necessary was to clear out the browser's cookies (takes about 3 seconds) and submit a new vote. I tested it myself and was able to send in 3 votes for Dr. Paul in less than 30 seconds.

As for the theory about some polls only allowing one IP address per vote, this is true. But I would also add most people nowadays have a technology on their computers called DHCP. This technology dynamically assigns a new IP address each time someone connects to the Internet. Just recycle the connection and you'd be able to vote again and again.

While I am excited about the prospects of Dr. Paul's candidacy, I think the CNBC poll only shows two things for certain: 1) there are absolutely people who are fervent about Ron Paul's campaign and 2) a strong sense of apathy exists among all the other Republican candidates.

Hopefully this can translate into higher levels of support as the campaign moves forward.

by racer3271 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Friday, October 12, 2007 at 10:53:55 AM

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terlinguaLaw Student

Great analysis!

We have a controlled media folks, but keep fighting for Paul and things will change.

by terlingua (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Friday, October 12, 2007 at 11:41:52 AM

I am a Musician, political Junkie, Father, Husband, who cares very much about the United States of America and what is being done to the Ideals and citizens of this great Nation.

I want to restore the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to what the founders of this nation intended to protect us from.

I was born in Niagara Falls, N.Y. and I now reside in Florida. I am tired of the media being manipulated by Faux News and right wing propaganda that leading our Democracy i...

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Michael ChaversI am a Musician, political Junkie, Father, Husband, who cares very much about the United States of America and what is being done to the Ideals and citizens of this great Nation.

I want to restore the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to what the founders of this nation intended to protect us from.

I was born in Niagara Falls, N.Y. and I now reside in Florida. I am tired of the media being manipulated by Faux News and right wing propaganda that leading our Democracy i...

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the explanation is simple

I think the explanation is simple. Ron Paul supporters actually watch the debate. Most of the other Republican’s just listen to Rush or Bill O’ to have their news predigested for them

by Michael Chavers (47 articles, 0 quicklinks, 13 diaries, 174 comments) on Friday, October 12, 2007 at 1:00:31 PM

My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
Member banned on June 3, 2008 for repeated abuse of editors.
ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
Member banned on June 3, 2008 for repeated abuse of editors.

Paul wins every debate, when allowed to speak

So what? The game is rigged, its Romney or Guliani, lining up to lose to Hillary. The game goes on and the American people continue to lose.

I would love to see a Paul/Kucinich contest, if only for the wonderful debates that would ensue. But I wont see such and I will be grateful that Pauls abysmal ideas of government lack of responsibilities in the area of social programs wont see fruition.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments) on Friday, October 12, 2007 at 4:10:11 PM

I'm 61 years old, fear the computer even though I am stuck before the screen. I fear cyber-hacking by the government or vigilantes. Few activists know where each other live or even meet. So mail, email, phone calls and cyberbills secretively not paid, would leave most in cyber dark, even physical dark, if the electric bill were marked unpaid.

Ron Paul understands freedom best, and gets young people to be activists. Obama and Huckebee realize that al Qiada specifically is a threa...

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RichardKaneI'm 61 years old, fear the computer even though I am stuck before the screen. I fear cyber-hacking by the government or vigilantes. Few activists know where each other live or even meet. So mail, email, phone calls and cyberbills secretively not paid, would leave most in cyber dark, even physical dark, if the electric bill were marked unpaid.

Ron Paul understands freedom best, and gets young people to be activists. Obama and Huckebee realize that al Qiada specifically is a threa...

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How about showing Ron Paul Support isn't all lilly white

I wish Ron Paul Supporters and his campaign would realize the strong Ron Paul support in the El-Hispano Press.

Ron Paul’s comments may be only a tad bit more amenable than the other Republicans. All the Democrats may sound more understand of the unlicensed immigrant’s plight, but Ron Paul’s votes especially on political issues such as not imposing oligarchy of Latin America, appeal to many Hispanics. If gringos passing through Hispanic comminutes saw, here and there, Ron Paul banners and bumper stickers, they might realize that the Black and Hispanic vote doesn’t have to be owned by the Democrats. A lot of antiwar activist would love to be able to vote for someone other than a Democrat.

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by RichardKane (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 29 comments) on Friday, October 12, 2007 at 5:12:29 PM

Many antiwar activists will in fact

vote for other than a democrat. I seriously doubt it will be Ron Paul who garners our votes though.

I live in a primarily "hispanic community" and have seen no sign of this supposed groundswell of support for Paul. Polls showed a slight decline in hispanic democratic support early on in Bush's fiasco administration but new polls show that they are back in the democratic fold.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments) on Friday, October 12, 2007 at 7:40:25 PM

Just a man trying to wipe socialism off the face of the Earth.
Ragnar DanneskjoldJust a man trying to wipe socialism off the face of the Earth.

Ardee D....Our Resident Socialist???

Ahhh.....So nice to see such a hardcore socialist like yourself Ardee D!!!

How much would like to steal from me and the rest of the U.S. citizens today??

You know...If government would get the hell out of our way we'd be a lot better off!!

Well....At least those with responsibility to take care of themselves.

Oh yeah...One more question.....At what point of does one just stop working and go on welfare, because it makes more sense to sit at home than it does for the goverment to STEAL 70% of my paycheck to give to degenerates??

Just Curious

by Ragnar Danneskjold (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 5:01:44 AM

You embarrass yourself

Your sophomoric and uninformed rant prove only your unfitness to debate with the adults. Congratualtions.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments) on Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 8:06:16 AM

Freedom's the Answer.
What's the Question?
Fascist NationFreedom's the Answer.
What's the Question?

There is a reason they gag you

Great rebutal. A second opinion by CNBC on the removal of the poll was posted at:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/21270546

ANd discussions of how scientific polls are less than stellar, especially where Ron Paul is concerned can be found at:

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/

by Fascist Nation (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 3 comments) on Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 11:14:45 AM

In progress....
MsTweetieIn progress....

Lame-Stream Media Stinks!!

I am thoughly disgusted after reading this article. I also watched the video and saw that Ron Paul appeared to be the winner right after the debate. I've also seen many videos of him on YouTube and it is clear Ron Paul has the guts to follow-through with his deciions. Mr. Anderson is conveying the same 'ole, same 'ole lame-stream media crap we have been getting since its existence. I believe the previous two elections were a farce, and that there are "powers that be" who already know who will end up in the White House. Or are hard-trying to see to it that they succeed. How STUPID must they think of the current Shrub "acting" as President as he really is not the one running things and cannot put two sentences together if they aren't written down for him by somebody else.

I live just outside the D.C. beltway and have been thrilled to see grass-roots groups lobbying for Ron Paul all over the U.S. In small towns and large, the American people I hope are WAKING UP! I really don't belong to any political party as I have not thought the process fair (or legal) for quite some time. I have become so cynical with regard to the biased and untruthful reporting that has been going on, and for years! I would like to be able to muster a small glimmer of hope that enough Americans can get it together and come out in droves between now and the election (especially those serving in the military who are rooting for Ron Paul) and say boo hoo to the political pundits (who have it all wrong anyway).

And for the first time since JFK, put somebody in the White House who deserves to be there. Ron Paul will work for us, bring our troops home, get rid of the Federal Reserve which happens to be privately owned by the big banks, get rid of income tax which is illegal anyway, and restore our rights that the Constution has given us.

And lets make sure we also get rid of all the Greedtards up on Capital Hill who forgot who they work for and pray we can get a non-politician like Ron Paul in the WH who has the guts to stand up to them all and trust his judgment that he will do what he says he will and bring this Country back to where it's supposed to be. Let's us also pray for him in his travels as there are boogymen out there. And I am not kidding.

by MsTweetie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 6:40:31 PM