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January 21, 2008 at 09:58:06

Peace Mirage Makes Iraq a Non-Issue in Democratic Primary

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All three quickly responded that they would do so.  None discussed whether this was an over intrusive federal government telling schools how to structure their classes or forcing a program onto a campus that students do not want.  None discussed whether the U.S. spending as much as the whole world combined on military activities making up more than half of the discretionary spending of the federal government was disproportionate to other spending priorities.

Indeed, Obama, who is often described in the corporate media as the anti-war candidate, went further and said: “I would call for an increase in our force structure, particularly around the Army and the Marines.”  In fact, he wants the largest, most expensive military in the world expanded by 100,000 troops.

Another opportunity to look behind the veil of rhetoric came when they were asked about the politics of fear.  Senators Clinton and Obama, the only two that were given a chance to respond, talked about “the real enemies” we have and the urgent need to protect the homeland.  No one tried to put Al Qaeda in perspective, as a criminal gang almost destroyed in Afghanistan war and given new life by U.S. foreign policy especially the occupation of Iraq. 

The Democratic leadership is being helped by some anti-war leaning Democrats who are part of a coalition primarily made up of unions and Move-On along with smaller groups like Council for a Livable World and Win Without War. This coalition focused its anti-war pressure primarily on Republicans – spending advertising money in Republican districts – and consistently moved with the leadership of the Democratic Party and broke from most anti-war groups when the Democrats put forward withdrawal plans that left more troops than it withdrew.  Now it plans to parrot Clinton’s challenge to Obama and “push for legislation to prevent President Bush from entering into a long-term agreement with the Iraqi government that could keep significant numbers of troops in Iraq for years to come.”  Sound familiar?  It is remarkable that groups which are legally required to be independent of the Democratic Party walk in lock stop with them.

As one of the questioners from the audience noted in the Nevada debate: “The policy differences among the remaining candidates is so slight that we appear to be choosing on the basis of personality and life story.”  On Iraq, the candidates have put forward a veil of peace rhetoric to hide the reality that they will support a long-term military presence by the United States in Iraq and the region.  Peace voters – don’t be fooled!

 Below are excerpts from the Nevada debate and Dennis Kucinich’s comments on Democracy Now!

Excerpts from Democratic Primary Debate
January 15, 2008, Las Vegas, Nevada

Speakers: Senator Hillary Rodhan Clinton (D-N.Y.)
Former Senator John Edwards (D-NC)
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
Moderators: Brian William, Tim Russert and Natalie Morales of MSNBC

CLINTON: Well, I want to ask Senator Obama to join me in doing something.You know, we both very much want to convince President Bush, which is not easy to do, in the remaining year to end the war in Iraq, to change direction.It appears that not only is he refusing to do that, but that he has continued to say he can enter into an agreement with the Iraqi government, without bringing it for approval to the United States Congress, that would continue America’s presence in Iraq, long after President Bush leaves office.

I find that absolutely unacceptable. And I think we have to do everything we can to prevent President Bush from binding the hands of the next president.So I’ve introduced legislation that clearly requires President Bush to come to the United States Congress. It is not enough, as he claims, to go to the Iraqi parliament, but to come to the United States Congress to get anything that he’s trying to do, including permanent bases, numbers of troops, all the other commitments he’s talking about as he’s traveling in that region.And I want to ask Senator Obama if you will co-sponsor my legislation to try to rein in President Bush so that he doesn’t commit this country to his policy in Iraq, which both of us are committed to end.

OBAMA: Well, I think we can work on this, Hillary.  Because I don’t think — you know, we’ve got unity in the Democratic Party, I hope, on this.

The notion that President Bush could somehow tie the hands of the next president, I think, is contrary to how our democracy’s supposed to work and the voices of the American people who spoke out in 2006 and I expect will speak out again in 2008.I have opposed this war consistently. I have put forward a plan that will get our troops out by the end of 2009. And we already saw today reports that the Iraqi minister suggests that we’re going to be in there at least until 2018 — 2018, 10 years, a decade-long commitment.

Currently, we are spending $9 billion to $10 billion a month. And the notion is that we’re going to sustain that at the same time as we’re neglecting what we see happening in Afghanistan right now, where you have a luxury hotel in Kabul that was blown up by militants and the situation continues to worsen.

My first job as president of the United States is going to be to call in the Joint Chiefs of Staff and say, “You’ve got a new mission,” and that is to responsibly, carefully, but deliberately start to phase out our involvement there and to make sure that we are putting the onus on the Iraqi government to come together and do what they need to do to arrive at peace.

WILLIAMS: If I could just interrupt, here, before I give you your question — would the other two of you join in the 2009 pledge that Senator Obama has made, concerning the withdrawal of American troops?

CLINTON: Oh, yes, I’m on record as saying exactly that, as soon as I become president, we will start withdrawing within 60 days. We will move as carefully and responsibly as we can, one to two brigades a month, I believe, and we’ll have nearly all the troops out by the end of the year, I hope.

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Kevin Zeese is Executive Director of the Campaign for Fresh Air and Clean Politics (www.FreshAirCleanPolitics.net) whose projects include Voters for Peace (www.VotersForPeace.US., True Vote (www.TrueVote.US and www.TrueVoteMD.org) and Climate Security (www.GlobalClimateSecurity.org). He is also president of Common Sense for Drug Policy (www.csdp.org).

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It is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.
Jeanette DoneyIt is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.

Kucinich is wrong

He is not the only candidte who did not vote to support the war or the funding.  Ron Paul has stood alone inside the GOP rebuking the war and the funding.   I got a phone call from Draft Nader, and I told them, what I'm going to tell you, I am sorry that the liberals who hate Republicans and want nothing to do with them are unable to hear Ron Paul's message and stand with him.  Ron Paul and Ralph Nader have allot of issues in common and for this they should UNITE.  Ron Paul has more money than Nader has in a combined 3 elections.  Let's unite against the duoply with Ron Paul and pay off the law suit bills the Democrats (for which Dennis is) gave to nader to block ballot access.  Join the rEVOLution Kevin!  Ron Paul is supporting cannabis issues....

 I'll tell youu what I think it, is...those who support Kucinich have no money to fight and won't join the rEVOLution in FEAR they will be asked to actually do something besides narc on others and whine about the rest.

by Jeanette Doney (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 304 comments) on Monday, January 21, 2008 at 12:42:35 PM
 


Kevin Zeese is Executive Director of the Campaign for Fresh Air and Clean Politics (www.FreshAirCleanPolitics.net) whose projects include Voters for Peace (www.VotersForPeace.US., True Vote (www.TrueVote.US and www.TrueVoteMD.org) and Climate Security (www.GlobalClimateSecurity.org). He is also president of Common Sense for Drug Policy (www.csdp.org).
Kevin ZeeseKevin Zeese is Executive Director of the Campaign for Fresh Air and Clean Politics (www.FreshAirCleanPolitics.net) whose projects include Voters for Peace (www.VotersForPeace.US., True Vote (www.TrueVote.US and www.TrueVoteMD.org) and Climate Security (www.GlobalClimateSecurity.org). He is also president of Common Sense for Drug Policy (www.csdp.org).

Kucinich was responding to Democrats

Jeannette:

Kucinich and Paul have worked together a great deal in Congress.  There seems to be a mutual respect between the two.  So, I'm sure Kucinich is well aware of Rep. Paul's position on the war and militarism more generally.

In this case Kucinch was responding to the other Democrats running.  He was excluded from the debate and responding to their comments on Democracy Now!

Sadly, it is looking like peace voters will not be choosing from Paul or Kucinch this fall unless they leave their respective party and run independent or with a third party.

KZ

by Kevin Zeese (86 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 45 comments) on Monday, January 21, 2008 at 3:04:21 PM
 


It is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.
Jeanette DoneyIt is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.

No Kevin...

Ron Paul rEVOLution is THE PEACE MOVEMENT and we're funding his campaign...the campaign is not funding us.  I have not met one person supporting Ron Paul for the war.  I supported Nader in 04 not Kucinich...I'm far from alone in theis rEVOLuton Kevin.  Remember how Democrats used to tell us that IF Nader was a Democrat...well the GOP says Ron Paul is not a GOP and with all that money Kev...there will be an indy run if he does not get the nod...and we should unite the right and left against the duopoly.  Hell, If Nader can work with Nixon, working with Ron Paul should be heaven by comparison.

by Jeanette Doney (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 304 comments) on Monday, January 21, 2008 at 5:20:22 PM
 


Faculty member at University of Kentucky. Teacher, Researcher, social activist. Political independent who believes in better government, not necessarily smaller or larger government.
Peter WedlundFaculty member at University of Kentucky. Teacher, Researcher, social activist. Political independent who believes in better government, not necessarily smaller or larger government.

Peace Mirage

Welcome to the real world.  I don't know many people who want the US in Iraq, but I think most people recognize you can't just pack-up and leave a mess behind.  If the US can bring some stability and peace, if it can really help the Iraqi people it should.  We destroyed their country.  We are responsible for the death and destruction in Iraq by our actions.  We owe the Iraqi's something for what Bush has done to them in our name.  If we are a nation that believes in justice then whether we like it or not we have an obligation and a responsibility beyond our own self interests.

Let's hope US troops are not used to protect US oil interests in Iraq.  I would also hope the US embassy could be reduced in size.  There is no reason for it to be the size it is currently.  The next President should develop a plan that returns Iraq to the Iraqi's and leave only the US troops needed for this transition.  This constant demand for everyone out in 1 or 2  years is wearing a little thin.  Isn't it time to move US foreign policy towards peace and justice?  Hasn't the US stood up for Human Rights, not isolation and denial?  I like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich as well, but I think they fail to see the US in any context other than as an isolated country neither participating in or attempting to facilitate constructive change in a world in which we all belong. 

The US does really have a place in this world beyond being its biggest consumer.  We can help to encourage justice, respect for human rights, improved living conditions for people and addressing environmental concerns.  We have just forgotten our place and role in this regard.  Don't forget your principles and beliefs just because someone like Bush comes along.  Don't retreat into the shadows and accept fear as the answer to the devastation Bush has wrought.  There is too much work to be done repairing the damage to just ignore and forget it.

by Peter Wedlund (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 183 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 7:23:18 AM
 

 

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