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Tag(s): 2006 Congressional Elections; 2006 Election Investigations; 2006 Elections; Election Recounts Protests; Election Theft; Election-Voting Issues; Electronic Voting; Florida; North Carolina
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January 22, 2007 at 06:15:15

Laying to Rest Fraudulent Fraud Rumors Damaging to Election Integrity

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This is my effort to address the Scoop Article, but I am not a statistician, so read what the commenters have to say, especially the person with screen name On The Other Hand.

Find out what really happened.

NC's iVotronic is a different version than Sarasota FL. We have the 9.1.2.0 NASED/EAC #N-2-02-22-22-004 we have the VVPAT as well, and a 15 inch screen
http://www.ncvoter.net/downloads/ess_equipmentpricing.pdf

Sarasota Florida has Model iVotronic version 1.0 w/ firmware version 8.0.1.2,
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/votemeth/systems/syssearch1.asp (you have to select county from drop down list)

Incorrect information can discredit the election integrity community.

It ultimately will be debunked when it is fact checked. Hopefully Southern Dem's blog will help to correct the rumors. We have tried to help the Jennings campaign, as we tried to help Larry Kissells campaign. Now all we can do is issue corrections as many places as possible.

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My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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How much easier

would it be to have verifiable, recountable, paper ballots? Why is it that a return to what served us well, serves other nations very well indeed, yet is deemed reactionary or worse here gains such little support?

I understand that Canada, using 'old fashioned' paper, has certified election results mere hours after the last vote is cast. Are we unable to do what Canada does? Is there an ulterior motive behind this resistance to returning to a system that actually is above reproach?

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments) on Monday, January 22, 2007 at 7:16:52 AM

Founder of the NC Coalition for Verified Voting.We passed a law to require VVPB on August 2005 after years of work. NC Coalition for Verified Voting is an all volunteer organization that does not solicit or accept donations.
ncvoterFounder of the NC Coalition for Verified Voting.We passed a law to require VVPB on August 2005 after years of work. NC Coalition for Verified Voting is an all volunteer organization that does not solicit or accept donations.

NC requires paper, had manual recount, Canada only 1 contest

NC requires VVPB.

Did you know that one reason Canada counts its ballots so quickly is because there is only one (1) contest on the whole ballot? See this link about HCPB in various countries
click here

In NC, there was a manual recount in 5 counties before the democrat conceded. If you go to the links, you will see that he picked up 2 votes from this sample (3%) manual hand to eye count.

Further, if you go to the links, you will read discussion by people who live in Mecklenburg County NC as to why they think there was a 4% undervote for US congress in that district, and whether that was normal.

by ncvoter (16 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 107 comments) on Monday, January 22, 2007 at 8:07:11 AM

impt note about article title

note by writer of article:

The original title of the op piece as submitted was
"Why NC 08 is not the same as FL 13 even though the iVotronic was used in both races"

Guess it was too long and op/ed assigned diff title.

by ncvoter (16 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 107 comments) on Monday, January 22, 2007 at 8:36:05 AM

Born in 1942 in NE Oklahoma, educated and raised in NE California, joined the Navy at 17 and was shipped to Yokosuka, Japan. There I was able to buy all the books that were banned in the USA. Married & divorced twice, AA degree in Lib. Arts. Now disabled w/ COPD, I live in the house that my mother left me and spend a lot of time on the computer and reading.
Chuck GarnerBorn in 1942 in NE Oklahoma, educated and raised in NE California, joined the Navy at 17 and was shipped to Yokosuka, Japan. There I was able to buy all the books that were banned in the USA. Married & divorced twice, AA degree in Lib. Arts. Now disabled w/ COPD, I live in the house that my mother left me and spend a lot of time on the computer and reading.

Screwed by a Union Buster

The major problem here is ignorance of what's at stake, and when people watch Herrin's powerpoint presentation, it all becomes clear. I once drove for a trucking company that was forced to have an election by the Teamsters, so the company hired a professional union buster. Even with two observers, one from the company and one representing the drivers (me)and a member of the N.L.R.B looking for fraud, the election was stolen. Only afterwards did we find out that the ballots that were folded came from drivers who were threatened with termination if they didn't vote against the IBT, and that's how we found out, along with finding out that the union buster got paid $500,000. Every Board of Supervisors, every RoV, and every Secretary of State needs to see this presentation.

by Chuck Garner (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 118 comments) on Monday, January 22, 2007 at 9:34:41 AM

Herrin testified to NC lawmakers

We got the state legislature to have Chuck Herrin present testimony - it scared the crap out of them, but in the end, it wasn't enough.

However, our senior senator who sponsored NC's VVPB law did say she thinks in about 10 years this country will be ready for hand counted paper ballots.

We tried to present more testimony on HCPB, but Chuck's was all we were allowed to get in.

by ncvoter (16 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 107 comments) on Monday, January 22, 2007 at 11:23:06 AM