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December 23, 2007 at 09:50:34

The Ron Paul "Surge"

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It's nice that he has automaton supporters who bristle at every cross word said about their hero (believe me, I'm glad they're occupying themselves on the net), but what they will likely do is split the conservative side of the "independent" vote so that the net effect will be to do for the Republicans what 'Ralph Nader' did in 2000 for the Democrats: put the opposite party candidate over the top and into office.

Whoever is put up for the presidency, even if it is Paul, once Paul's extreme libertarian views are scrutinized in the spotlight of the Tokyo Rose mainstream media, I doubt that more than 8-10 percent max of the public will vote for him, and I do mean MAX.

So, bring it on, Ron Paul fans, vent your ire, call me all the names you can think of and tell me how wrong I am about everything I've said. . I predict that the first comment comes within ten minutes of this being posted and it's a slam at me for either "hating the Constitution" or "supporting those who wish to create and maintain the current rotten system".

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Fair enough by John Lee on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 10:21:07 AM

Fair Enough? This Author Has Been Brainwashed !! by Bill Douglas on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:59:40 PM

Meet the Press today was like that scene in "V for Vendetta" by Bill Douglas on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 7:08:18 PM

Don't go popping any champagne corks just yet ... by Mr M on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 9:37:48 PM

Ron Paul on Meet the Press by joriet on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:33:20 PM

Irresponsible by Nim Nim on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 10:40:02 AM

Hope this helps... by Co6aka on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 10:59:42 AM

Noise by Sam Liberty on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:14:05 AM

Oooh temper, temper by Hilton Gray on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:16:15 AM

Perhaps you might deign to enlighten by ardee D. on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 6:21:32 PM

postscript by ardee D. on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 6:28:28 PM

John Lorenz: Un-American by Dan Druck on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:26:15 AM

Ad hominem? by Dan Druck on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:45:45 AM

name calling by Rob Kall on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:21:17 PM

Fair enough by Dan Druck on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 1:50:12 PM

Yes, but those are the rules-make sure everyone follows them by R3VOLUTION R3VOLUTION on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 1:14:58 PM

MY LORD by Andrew Morrow on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 2:57:19 PM

The Contrast is Striking by Frank Mulligan on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:53:39 AM

Barry Goldwater's Son Just Endorsed Ron Paul by Bill Douglas on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 1:08:33 PM

Wake Up Call by Michael Edelen on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:55:00 AM

What your waking up to is a BIG disappointment. by Mr M on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 9:57:20 PM

Wake up call, Part II by Gregg Gordon on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 6:47:51 AM

Ron Paul-- by Brasch on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:07:34 PM

Uncle RON says' imPEACH BUSH? Where is Paul? by Dom Jermano on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 5:56:24 PM

hypocrisy in action by Garrett Goebel on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:09:19 PM

Just registered so I can comment (I won't be the only one) by Andrew McDonald on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:12:19 PM

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To Mr. Lorenz by Alan Scher on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:17:04 PM

You crybaby by Greg Albert on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:17:58 PM

One more thing... by Co6aka on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:18:57 PM

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Hirschorn's personal agenda by Dan Druck on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 2:10:54 PM

Dr. Ron Paul by countryboypride77 on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:36:35 PM

Ad Hominem attacks by Louis Nardozi on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:40:45 PM

President Ron Paul by Mayberry on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:48:23 PM

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The Ron Paul Reality by ronheri on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:55:57 PM

what about the other guys???? by collin28 on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 1:07:30 PM

I like that by Gregg Gordon on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 6:58:44 AM

Desperado by R3VOLUTION R3VOLUTION on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 1:07:34 PM

Can I flag John Lorenz??? by Joseph Baca on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 1:15:02 PM

Too much untrue "knowlege." by Mark Bennett on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 1:15:36 PM

The constitution by jdoss on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 2:27:01 PM

The constitution by Conrad on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 9:52:13 PM

Ron Paul by Vigilante on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 1:18:36 PM

Income tax goes here... by mikel paul on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 3:27:27 PM

2012 is getting closer? by Truenobleman on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 1:34:22 PM

Constitutional War by Techknowledgie on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 1:36:00 PM

Good stuff... except for the name calling by jdoss on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 1:53:31 PM

with all due respect Mr. Lorenz... by mikel paul on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 2:29:47 PM

SanFran5 article by nelswight on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 7:12:56 PM

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PLEASE GET SOME HELP FOR DEPRESION by RICHARD SHADE on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 3:03:39 PM

Not buying it. by B Tribble on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 3:21:31 PM

Posts Like This Are A Joke by Ed Encho on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 3:46:25 PM

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Is John Lorenz a communist? by TR on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 4:28:13 PM

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Cover your eyes John Lorenz by Big Dave on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 4:37:56 PM

Ron Paul & The Surge by Lance L. Landon on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 5:05:44 PM

Good Going Dennis! by Dom Jermano on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 6:01:06 PM

Dear John,... by Tom Johnson on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 5:07:25 PM

Paul is a Southerner by kevns007 on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 5:13:27 PM

Actually, Ron is from Pennsylvania by Republicae on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 6:56:54 PM

Wherever he's from he still represents the South by kevns007 on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:14:18 PM

How Simplistic Your Comments Are... by Republicae on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 6:25:35 AM

Rant by Craig J. Bolton on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 5:59:48 PM

Good Going Dennis by Dom Jermano on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 6:04:49 PM

Flagging by Craig J. Bolton on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 6:06:30 PM

Surge? by Parke Nicholson on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 6:18:57 PM

Where's the BEEF, John? Douglas is right! by john vee on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 6:22:20 PM

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One Choice in 2008 by Republicae on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 6:45:02 PM

Re: The Ron Paul "Surge by Munich on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 7:30:37 PM

War by philip thomas on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 8:26:22 PM

ron paul by mike phillips on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 8:34:52 PM

What are you afraid of? by Bart Phillips on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 8:37:12 PM

Consider this..... by John Call on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 8:45:07 PM

John Birch Society??? by Tom Keller on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 10:16:45 PM

Draft Talk by Barbara Ann Mann on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 10:37:42 PM

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John and those that bad mouth Ron Paul: by sean dulac on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 10:52:21 PM

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where to begin? by stevo on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 1:23:07 AM

Thomas Jefferson? by Steve Fallon on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 2:04:16 AM

Ron Paul can win by Andrew McDonald on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 2:16:03 AM

RON PAUL AND AMERICAN PIE by RICHARD SHADE on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 2:19:33 AM

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Painful, to Read and Comment On by Paul Rye on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 3:30:12 AM

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Reality check by Gregg Gordon on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 7:56:24 AM

Constitution, What's That? by glitch on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 8:35:53 AM

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Ron Paul vs. The Philosophically Bankrupt by nmlifestyles on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 10:51:35 AM

Comment on the Surge by Hans S on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 10:57:43 AM

Ordering from the menu I see . . . by Edward Rynearson on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 11:22:15 AM

ad hominem by Hans S on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 11:22:16 AM

Let's see the first breakdown by Paul Rye on Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 3:32:38 AM

No "anachroniusm" at all by William Westmiller on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 2:22:41 PM

war by chessmaster on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 2:42:32 PM

Ron Paul: vote for him or die by Andrew McDonald on Monday, Dec 24, 2007 at 4:24:14 PM

independent candidate by Robert Winn on Tuesday, Dec 25, 2007 at 7:26:39 AM

End the INcome tax, End the War by Crazy John on Tuesday, Dec 25, 2007 at 6:44:32 PM

Some Serious Thinking by Dom Jermano on Tuesday, Dec 25, 2007 at 7:18:55 PM

The Questionable Friends of the So-Called "Messiah" by dearleighton on Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 9:57:17 AM

Ad Hominem? by Justin Green on Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 2:20:43 PM

Ad hominems by Mike Klein on Sunday, Dec 23, 2007 at 6:36:11 PM

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