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November 2, 2007 at 07:03:03

Headlined on 11/2/07:
Hillary Clinton: A Win-Win For Corporate America

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But the old Goldwater girl did. And this time she can’t say she was duped into it.

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Joel S. Hirschhorn is the author of Delusional Democracy - Fixing the Republic Without Overthrowing the Government (www.delusionaldemocracy.com). His current political writings have been greatly influenced by working as a senior staffer for the U.S. Congress and for the National Governors Association. He advocates a Second American Revolution, beginning with an Article V Convention to propose constitutional amendments. He is Chair of the Independent Party of Maryland.
Joel S. HirschhornJoel S. Hirschhorn is the author of Delusional Democracy - Fixing the Republic Without Overthrowing the Government (www.delusionaldemocracy.com). His current political writings have been greatly influenced by working as a senior staffer for the U.S. Congress and for the National Governors Association. He advocates a Second American Revolution, beginning with an Article V Convention to propose constitutional amendments. He is Chair of the Independent Party of Maryland.

Thanks for a sane, objective and correct analysis

One point that most people simply do not get: the power elites that control our plutocracy understand that there must be regular, periodic shifts of superficial and misleading power between Republicrooks and Democraps; so a Clinton victory is just fine with them for keeping up the charade of America's delusional democracy. One other point, I am still predicting Obama as the VP for Clinton; again it makes perfect sense in terms of keeping up "democracy appearances."

by Joel S. Hirschhorn (127 articles, 31 quicklinks, 58 diaries, 509 comments) on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 7:45:33 AM

Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

Hillary's prospects

I've mentioned before that Bill clinton was the best Republican president that we've had since Dwight Eisenhower. Does Hillary have the capability to be the second best? I think not, and that speaks to the dim prospects of saving the Republic under her stewardship.

One only needs to look at how the mainstream media, and even her supposed prospective opponents in the Republican party are pimping her candidacy to realize that the deal is closed and her heart belongs to Daddy Warbucks.

by John Sanchez Jr. (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 1175 comments) on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 8:35:15 AM

My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
Member banned on June 3, 2008 for repeated abuse of editors.
ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
Member banned on June 3, 2008 for repeated abuse of editors.

Hedging ones bets

As it seems pretty obvious that a majority of Americans, sickened by endless examples of Bush incompetence, callousness, corruption and greed will vote for any democrat for President, we see the corporations choosing the most Republican of the democratic candidates.

I fully expect the coming election to be the dirtiest, slimiest and most foul campaign in American history and I believe Hillary Clinton will emerge victorious. I expect that the Left will be partially satisfied with her domestic programs and the Right will bite their tongues, submarine her at every turn, grudgingly accept her foreign policy decisions and await the cyclic change that will inevitably come.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments) on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 9:05:04 AM

I have been working as an Architectural Designer for about 25 years. Because of a life tranformation and an awareness of things going on in our world, I found myself disinchanted with what most of us strives for and that is being successful (making a lot of money and having a lot of stuff).I am now focusing on starting a foundation for the preservation of tribal people and the environment. In the early 90's I developed an appreciation and respect for tribal cutlures and I hope I ca...

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Rick TheileI have been working as an Architectural Designer for about 25 years. Because of a life tranformation and an awareness of things going on in our world, I found myself disinchanted with what most of us strives for and that is being successful (making a lot of money and having a lot of stuff).I am now focusing on starting a foundation for the preservation of tribal people and the environment. In the early 90's I developed an appreciation and respect for tribal cutlures and I hope I ca...

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Ms. Hillary

I think you got it right on the mark about Hillary. But! Ron Paul may surprise us. He is getting a tremedous amount of momentum. He even brought the younger generation out of hiding. Many think the younger generation is all talk and no action. Will they even vote? Well, I think they will in strong numbers. Americans really need to wake up and see what is really taking place in our corrupt government.

Rick - a Ron Paul supporter

by Rick Theile (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 50 comments) on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 10:36:21 AM

Karen Fish is a writer currently living in Los Angeles California. The Temple of Love - The World Peace Religion makes peace among and unites Christianity Islam Judaism and Everyone else and the Countries they all live in as the first step towards world peace, by tying everyone together with their common threads and resolving all of their differences once and for all.
Karen FishKaren Fish is a writer currently living in Los Angeles California. The Temple of Love - The World Peace Religion makes peace among and unites Christianity Islam Judaism and Everyone else and the Countries they all live in as the first step towards world peace, by tying everyone together with their common threads and resolving all of their differences once and for all.

A Question

Dear John,

Who exactly is corporate america? What are the names of the companies and what are the names of the people of corporate america? Do they have their own little behind the scenes government set up? Do they have meetings? Who elects them? What is their power structure? Is it national or international? Are there books answering these questions?

by Karen Fish (55 articles, 13 quicklinks, 32 diaries, 61 comments) on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 11:05:38 AM

57Yo m I'm a "been there, done that! Bought the tee shirt,to hide the scars!" type of person Ive workedï¿½many jobs fromï¿½a chicken slaughterer to managing a branch of a multinational and many jobs in between.Raised in colonial PNG Left School 16,Grad Hi school 22 Night School, University 36ï¿½ BBus (majored in Psyche and Marketing), Dip Comp prog and project Mmnt.at 50 I've been in 48 different community org ,23 on board with 18 prez or deputy prez.First social campaign at 17 for the aborigine...

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Andris57Yo m I'm a "been there, done that! Bought the tee shirt,to hide the scars!" type of person Ive workedï¿½many jobs fromï¿½a chicken slaughterer to managing a branch of a multinational and many jobs in between.Raised in colonial PNG Left School 16,Grad Hi school 22 Night School, University 36ï¿½ BBus (majored in Psyche and Marketing), Dip Comp prog and project Mmnt.at 50 I've been in 48 different community org ,23 on board with 18 prez or deputy prez.First social campaign at 17 for the aborigine...

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Answer to A Question

Have you ever mistakenly bitten in to peice of fruit to find itis rotten in side?

Do you then stop to identify each individual bacteria? or do you look at smell it declaring it fetid?

Same deal with corporate capitalism.The individual companies are like the bacteria it is what they do that is important.

No there is no specific counter government any more than bacteria create a seperate peice of fruit or restrict its destructive ways.

Each bacteria to prosper undermines the integruity of the fruit (society). When that fruit is totally spoiled they move to the next fruit (see drugs products that are illegal, because they're dangerous in US are then marketed to 3rd world countries) to polute and destroy. Note that Corporation like bacteria where the fruit/societies' are the least protected.

Does that answer your question?

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 531 comments) on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 11:44:33 PM

Assuming it to be an honest inquiry

and noting that Andris gave a definitive answer I would nevertheless elucidate a bit.

The question itself could be seen as a snide and sarcastic put down of a commonly held opinion on the left, an opinion rather easily verified by an in depth look at voting records and speeches, including contradictions associated with campaign contributions. I will assume it to be an honest attempt to find the truth.

Can you not wonder, as do I, how a company like Halliburton, incorporated in the Cayman Islands so as to pay no taxes, gets a contract with a guarranteed profit built into it. This same company delivers little despite the billions in payments and is never audited or even questioned as to non delivery or actual delivery of unclean water and rancid meat? All this despite a history of overcharging for nonexistent overtime and getting stiff penalties for such acts prior to our current administration assuming power.

This same story is repeated by many such corporations, and in many industries, especially oil and natural gas, defense of course and even agribusiness seems to inherit sweetheart legislations that are not bestowed upon Mom and Pop company but pour in enormous rivers from the halls of congress to our largest corporations. Hell from the first overthrow of a sovereign nation with a democratically elected government for the benefit of the bottom line of United Fruit (Guatemala in '53) our nation is little more than a service arm of big business.

Any further questions?

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments) on Saturday, November 3, 2007 at 9:40:50 PM

JUST A CONCERN CITIZEN AND LOVE MY COUNTRY GREW UP IN A SMALL FISHING TOWN IN NJ,BUT THE DAY I GOT MY DRIVERS LICENSE,SPENT MOST OF MY TIME EXPANSING MY MINE. LEARNED A LOT THE HARD WAY,BUT MOSTLY STREET SMART. AT 65 HAVE PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHO THE SNAKES ARE.
RICHARD SHADEJUST A CONCERN CITIZEN AND LOVE MY COUNTRY GREW UP IN A SMALL FISHING TOWN IN NJ,BUT THE DAY I GOT MY DRIVERS LICENSE,SPENT MOST OF MY TIME EXPANSING MY MINE. LEARNED A LOT THE HARD WAY,BUT MOSTLY STREET SMART. AT 65 HAVE PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHO THE SNAKES ARE.

FOOD FOR THE BRAIN

KAREN FISH YOU HAVE THE BIGEST BOOK AT YOUR FINGER TIPS, JUST GOOGLE CFR, TC ,HILLARY CFR, CLINTONS FREEMASONARY, MEDID CFR, PLEASE DO THIS SO YOU CAN MAKE A SMART VOTE FOR PRESIDENT, THIS GREAT CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC DESEVERS NOTHEN BETTER THAN A CLEAR SMART VOTE. THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.

TAKE CARE RICHARD

by RICHARD SHADE (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 460 comments) on Tuesday, November 6, 2007 at 5:18:43 AM

Ernest is not a professional writer. Nor well educated in political affairs. However, he has uniquely experienced life styles of those who have little.
ErnestErnest is not a professional writer. Nor well educated in political affairs. However, he has uniquely experienced life styles of those who have little.

As much as I hate to vote......................

for "the lesser of the two evils".......................If Hillary would pissoff the AIPAC and the ADL..................I would vote for her..............then I would twist her left arm up around her right ear to remove the troops from Iraq..........

by Ernest (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 132 comments) on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 11:54:40 AM

Dear Karen

I am probably way out of line to usurp the author's place here, and by no means do I speak for him, but with that disclaimer out of the way, I have a brief reply to your queries.

Corporate America, and multinational and transnational corporatists do not invite me to their meetings on political matters, but it is naive to suppose that because one hasn't attended one that they never happen. Indeed, you can often see these meetings covered in the main stream press where they are called "fund raising dinners." Moreover, they don't publish a directory to identify themselves as people and organizations that will benefit from fascist government, but there are those who clearly would, and indeed, there are those who clearly do.

One may simply observe the list of corporations who are the exclusive beneficiaries of the current administration's fascist largesse to create one's own directory. Oddly enough, you'll find that most, if not all of them, are sharing a small part of that largesse with Hillary Clinton's campaign organization. If you dig a little deeper, you'll find that most of her most important campaign operatives, those who do her polling, fund raising, spin control, and advising move very easily between the Democratic and Republican sides of the aisle. The Republican side is where the bulk of their business dealings are.

I refer you to the Nation magazine to look up the background on these subjects.

by John Sanchez Jr. (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 1175 comments) on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 2:08:21 PM

SW Texas ultra-liberal
john riggsSW Texas ultra-liberal

Hitlery,?,,,Not EVEN for dog catcher.

There is a good website where you will find a list of the 46 people associated with the clintons that are all dead many under very mysterious circumstances. www.povn.com/sandlent/clinton I print this on three sheets of paper two pages per sheet then cut them in half to make a little bookand everywhere I go I pass it out to anyone that might be a demo (especially women) with a RON PAUL card attached. There are many who have died to keep the clinton-bush crime sydicate in business. I am printing up photos of Ghouliani in drag for the more aristocratic set. I'm such a stinker!

by john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 427 comments) on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 3:52:29 PM

Name is Rose Martinis, age 64, married. Atheist and retired dental tech. Hobbies: archeology, history, science, woodworking, wood carving and volunteering for non-profits.
uluroName is Rose Martinis, age 64, married. Atheist and retired dental tech. Hobbies: archeology, history, science, woodworking, wood carving and volunteering for non-profits.

Hmm! "Not EVEN for dog catcher?"

Mr. Miglio, Would you care to also name all those dead under the Bush/Cheney administration?

by uluro (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 68 comments) on Saturday, November 3, 2007 at 7:04:13 AM

Hmm! "Not EVEN for dog catcher?"

Would you care to also name all those dead under the Bush/Cheney administration?

by uluro (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 68 comments) on Saturday, November 3, 2007 at 7:05:08 AM

I am a political activist living in Northern California. I work within the continued education field. I am concerned with the direction our country is headed and bombards not only my own Senators and Representatives but elected officials around the country with letters and phone calls to either thank them or challenge them on the positions they take. Freedom is not free…ignorance is not bliss…to safeguard and protect our own freedoms and Constitution we must scrutinize ...

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MGurneyI am a political activist living in Northern California. I work within the continued education field. I am concerned with the direction our country is headed and bombards not only my own Senators and Representatives but elected officials around the country with letters and phone calls to either thank them or challenge them on the positions they take. Freedom is not free…ignorance is not bliss…to safeguard and protect our own freedoms and Constitution we must scrutinize ...

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Ms Karen: :

You might check out and connect the dots:

Council of Foreign Relations (Nearly every major political official is a member)

http://www.cfr.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations

The Trilateral Commission

http://www.trilateral.org/

The Global Dominance Group

http://www.projectcensored.org/downloads/Global_Dominance_Group.pdf

Opensecrets.org (info on who funs our election campaigns)

http://opensecrets.org/

The Center for Public Integrity

http://www.publicintegrity.org/default.aspx

The War Profiteers

http://www.warprofiteers.com/article.php?list=type&type=176

Corp Watch

http://www.corpwatch.org/

Who Owns the Media?

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/owners.html

Corporate Media is Corporate America

http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/C2006_chap6.pdf

Source Watch

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=SourceWatch

Dillon Read & Co Inc

And the Aristocracy of Stock Profits

http://www.dunwalke.com/contents.htm

The Carlyle Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group

I close with:

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto determination practiced in past centuries"David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991

by MGurney (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 1 comments) on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 6:14:15 PM

The author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".
Mary PittThe author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".

This is SO right!

Anyone who liked Bill with his compromise-and-concede method of governance is gonna LOVE Hillary! There are those who grew up poor and have managed to maintain their connection with the "under-class" and can appeal to them from their own elevated status. Bill was one of those but Hillary is not! Her history is one of opportunism and status-climbing. She doesn't even understand that mandatory health insurance, even with government assistance, is no panacea to the well-being of the poor who cannot even afford the company-mandated "deductible and co-payments" and so forego the needed medical care and still suffer from the government-mandated reduction of their already-meager sustenance. The end of their suffering will not arrive under Hillary's leadership.

by Mary Pitt (65 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 177 comments) on Saturday, November 3, 2007 at 10:21:26 AM