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January 10, 2008 at 10:15:33

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New Hampshire Vote Results -- Are they for real?

by Jean Hay Bright     Page 2 of 3 page(s)

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All night long.

That fact says that, for every 100 votes cast, whether in a rural hamlet or in what passes for a big city in New Hampshire, a constant 40 voters went for Clinton, 36 went for Obama, 17 went for Edwards, 5 went for Richardson, and 2 went for either Kucinich or Gravel. Never one up one moment and down the next. Never. All night long. The vote totals changed, and the number of precincts reporting went up as the night went on, but the percentages never changed. What are the odds of that happening?

And the exit polls – they had Obama way ahead. Why were they so wrong?

Or were they wrong?

As I understand it, all New Hampshire voters use paper ballots. In the rural areas, people hand-count the votes. In more urban areas, they use vote-counting machines which scan the ballots and record the votes. That’s as in, unsecure, discredited Diebold vote-counting machines.

We see on the blogs today, the day after the vote, that some people on the ground noticed that the hand-counted ballots in their rural towns of New Hampshire actually had different ratios for Clinton/Obama than the machine-counted ballots in the cities. Obama was odds-on favorite when human eyes did the counting, Clinton was always ahead when the machines spit out the numbers. According to these blogs, unsecure Diebold machines are used to count 81% of the votes cast across the state.

But if the rural hand-counted votes had different ratios, why did the percentages reported as the results came in never change on the TV screen?

Also, according to some blogs, votes for Republican Ron Paul seemed to disappear, even in rural areas, unless questioned, when suddenly a transcription error would be discovered. What’s with that?

Concerns have been expressed for months, all across America, that this election could be stolen, as many believe the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen. Are we seeing the first evidence of that possibility in New Hampshire’s vote?

I think it’s entirely possible. Too many things are not adding up.

There is one way to settle the issue. A statewide recount.

New Hampshire is small enough, and this issue is serious enough, that I think a recount should be done. A supervised, monitored, video-recorded hand-count. Of this entire vote.

The ballots exist, they aren’t electrons on some computer hard-drive somewhere, so this is possible to do.

If you are as concerned as I am, call or email the campaign office of your favorite candidate (whoever he or she may be) and ask the campaign to request/authorize a recount. See what they say. Call the New Hampshire Secretary of State with your concerns. Call your Congressman (after all, this is a federal election) and ask him or her to launch an investigation.

And all you New Hampshire Kucinich supporters, call your local precinct and make sure your vote was counted – as some Ron Paul supporters have done, some of whom haven’t liked what they found out. And if your vote somehow “disappeared,” call the Kucinich campaign and let them know.

A recount can be done quickly, and needs to be done soon. This week if possible. Definitely before February 5, Super-Voting-Tuesday, when Democrats in 22 states vote for their nominee -- many of them on Diebold voting machines.

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Jean Hay Bright of Dixmont, Maine, is a political activist, writer and author of three books, including "Meanwhile, Next Door to the Good Life" (2003), "A Tale of Dirty Tricks So Bizarre: Susan Collins v. Public Record," (2002, reprinted with update 2007); and "Proud to Be a Card-Carrying, Flag-Waving, Patriotic American Liberal" (1996).

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Nadia is an online activist interested in using the miracle of the internet to save our country before it is too late.
NadiaNadia is an online activist interested in using the miracle of the internet to save our country before it is too late.

We need a recount

I watched Kucinich's recorded numbers go up, then back down again.  I am not the only one.  Why bother some would say?  Well why did they bother shutting him out of the debate?  They want to demoralize him and his voters, and encourage everyone to give up. 

We have no reason to trust diebold tabulators.  There are MANY people asking this same question.  If they have nothing to hide, I am sure they won't mind a recount to assure the American people.

We have a minor candidate on the Republican side calling for a recount because he watched his votes go up, then back down again.  Hopefully the Ron Paul people will pursue this, because I am sure they had the percentages set on who they wanted to have what.  There is no way that Guiliani beat Ron Paul, and it seems even further from the truth to believe McCain "100 year war in Iraq" won.  What a joke!

About the recount

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080110/NEWS06/801100364

It was back to reality for presidential candidate Albert Howard of Ann Arbor, back behind the wheel of his Checker cab waiting for passengers at Detroit Metro Airport.

The father of eight savored his 40 votes in the New Hampshire presidential GOP primary. Howard was among 42 also-rans who paid $1,000 to get on the New Hampshire ballot, and he was something of a celebrity, interviewed by Time magazine, the New York Times, Boston Globe and the nightly ABC News.

At one point, his vote total climbed to 178, then dropped. He is asking the New Hampshire Secretary of State for a recount.

 

 

more discussion here

http://peacecandidates.com/blog/ben/08/01/09 

by Nadia (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 49 comments) on Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 11:59:07 AM
 


Nadia is an online activist interested in using the miracle of the internet to save our country before it is too late.
NadiaNadia is an online activist interested in using the miracle of the internet to save our country before it is too late.

one more thing

Thanks to Rob Kall for letting us discuss this!

Skinner of Democratic Underground is shutting down the discussion, even as the threads and questions are growing.  Some progressive message board...not!  What could be more important to our Democracy than elections? 

by Nadia (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 49 comments) on Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 12:47:26 PM
 


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UN observers to check for US election irregularities?

Is it to THAT point? Can they bring in external observers to make sure the

process is up-front and legit?

by truthtruffle (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 109 comments) on Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 7:45:48 PM
 

 

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