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September 16, 2007 at 10:07:33

Is Peace or Impeachment Possible?

by David Swanson     Page 2 of 5 page(s)

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 Seventy-nine Congress members, including only two Floridians, Corrine Brown and Alcee Hastings, have signed a letter saying they won't vote for more money unless it "redeploys" the troops by January 2009.  This effort is led by Progressive Caucus chairs Barbara Lee and Lynn Woolsey.  Woolsey is getting a lot of heat in DC right now because someone published the transcript of a private conference call on which she advocated pushing primary challenges to pro-war Democrats.  But Lynn is not only right morally.  Hers is a pro-Democratic Party position.  Primaries are good for a party as well as a country.  And the leadership of the Democratic Party is in very bad shape right now.  They have made clear that their goal is to keep the occupation of Iraq and Bush and Cheney around until November 2008, believing that will help them win elections.  Rahm Emanuel has told the Washington Post this, and Congressional staffers tell me this frequently.  And the occupation and impeachment fit together, not just because there are so many impeachable offenses related to the occupation, but also because trying to end the occupation would lead to impeachment. 

 Congressman Brad Sherman asked Petraeus what he would do if Congress ended the occupation but Bush illegally kept it going.  Petraeus said he'd have to ask his lawyer.  But Sherman was right to assume that Bush will not end the occupation as long as impeachment is off the table, which is one more reason the Democrats will avoid a serious effort to end the occupation unless we force them to act.  The thinking on the Hill right now is that if enough Democrats sign that letter and stand firm, Pelosi will go with a bill to please Republicans and win their votes.  Pelosi operates in accordance with George Stephanopoulos's myth that she simply must pass a bill, any bill.  In fact, when you get away from the topic of war, on every other issue this Congress can address, the consensus among Democrats is that they have two choices.  One is to pass atrocities like the Protect America Act, which Bush will sign.  That was the bill that erased the fourth amendment and legalized unconstitutional spying.  When they get around to the "Love, Harmony, and Joy" Act, you can be sure we're all about to be killed. 

 The second option, as they see it, is to pass bills and have them vetoed.  Of course they know in advance that it's all theater, that their bills are destined to be vetoed, but they view their whole job as an election campaign, and they don't think the public will catch on to what they're doing.

 I think there's a third option.  Impeach Bush and Cheney, remove them from office, and then pass bills that mean something. 

 With Bush and Cheney in office, even bills that are signed into law are altered or reversed with signing statements.  And these are not just empty statements.  The Government Accountability Office studied a sample of Bush's signing statements and found that in 30 percent of them, his administration has proceeded to violate the laws that he announced he had the right to violate.  So, while I applaud groups like the ACLU again and again pushing to redundantly recriminalize torture, I long for the ACLU of 1973 that had the decency to stand for impeachment. 

 Depicting Pelosi and Reid as sheep in ads is all very good, but not if we're sheep too, not if we go along with the removal of impeachment from the Constitution which leaves Congress with nothing to be other than sheep. 

 The purpose of impeachment is not just to take back control of our government, not just to end an occupation, not just to prevent an attack on Iran.  The purpose of impeachment is to inform future presidents that they must obey laws.  But this is not something that concerns many Congress members.  Their chief concern tends to be whether the next president will belong to their party. 

 Twenty Congress members have signed onto H Res 333, Dennis Kucinich's bill to impeach Cheney.  Many more signed onto the Gonzales bill or signed on during the last Congress to the Conyers bill for a preliminary impeachment investigation.  And others have said publicly or privately that they favor impeachment.  But these members have not signed onto Kucinich's bill on Cheney and have not introduced their own on Cheney or Bush.  I've spoken to a lot of them and their staff and to constituents who've spoken to them.  They have about 15 excuses, most of which are very easily rejected, a few of which it is going to be very hard but not impossible for us to get around.

 Excuse #1:  You can't judge articles of impeachment prior to a committee investigation.  That gets the process out of order: 

This is a complaint with Kucinich's bill, which lays out three specific charges against Cheney.  Inslee's bill on Gonzales got around this by simply proposing that the Judiciary Committee investigate whether Gonzales had committed impeachable offenses.  A new bill could do the same for Bush and Cheney and would not have to be wholly devoid of content.  It could suggest the area or areas of inquiry. 

 Excuse #2.  We don't have all the facts we need in order to impeach. 

Well, of course that's what an impeachment investigation is for.  But in fact we do have the facts.  The Judiciary Committee passed an article of impeachment against Nixon for refusing to comply with subpoenas.  Bush and Cheney and Rice have indisputably refused to comply with subpoenas.  That one is an instant impeachment.  Just add backbone.  The signing statements is another instant impeachment.  So is Bush's confessed violation of FISA, although it is complicated politically by Congress's recent legalization of this crime.  Bush is on videotape being warned about Hurricane Katrina and on videotape claiming he wasn't.  He and Cheney are on videotape lying about the reasons for war, and the evidence that they knew they were lying is overwhelming.  That is the impeachable offense our founding fathers most worried about.  James Madison and George Mason both argued as well at the Constitutional Convention that impeachment would be needed if a president ever pardoned a crime that he himself was involved in. The commutation of Scooter Libby's sentence (another notable ass-kissing little chicken shit) is another obvious impeachment.  The list is endless. Congressman Conyers has published a lengthy book documenting many of the felonies and abuses of power. 

 Excuse #3:  Impeachment would take too long. 

Nixon took 3 months.  Clinton took 2.  They've spent 9 thus far avoiding it, and with very little to show for it.  Impeachment for refusal to comply with subpoenas would take one day. 

Excuse #4:  Impeachment would distract from other things. 

Yeah?  Like what?  Since when is restoring the Bill of Rights a distraction?  A distraction from funding wars and legalizing spying is fine with me.  A distraction from passing bills that will be vetoed does not worry me. 

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DAVID SWANSON is a co-founder of After Downing Street, a writer and activist, and the Washington Director of Democrats.com. He is a board member of Progressive Democrats of America, and serves on the Executive Council of the Washington-Baltimore Newspaper Guild, TNG-CWA. He has worked as a newspaper reporter and as a communications director, with jobs including Press Secretary for Dennis Kucinich's 2004 presidential campaign, Media Coordinator for the International Labor Communications Association, and three years as Communications Coordinator for ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Swanson obtained a Master's degree in philosophy from the University of Virginia in 1997.

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My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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The single finest article I have read in my time here

I thought that every word glowed with the inner light of truth and moral outrage and  I applaud you most vigorously for writing them. Not only have you put the lie of a powerless Democratic Party to rest ( hello you defenders of democratic complicity and incompetence, where are your rebuttals to these truths? C'mon Andy, c'mon Steve you know who you are!) but you nailed the only real course of action open to us:

 

"We can shut down the city of Washington.  The next big march is on the 29th, following a camp in front of the Capitol from the 22nd to the 29th.  If we bring a million people and on the 29th refuse to leave, if we block the streets and fill the jails, all bets and probably all wars are off.  "

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2388 comments) on Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 10:56:02 AM
 


Geery lived off the grid for 15 years in an earth-sheltered, solar heated home, while his kids learned in school that solar energy isn't feasible. NAPTA hosts a page on Geery's foibles in education, and explains how he got his butt fired from a tenured teaching position. Here's a short clip of his most recent solar contraption; for more on that project, and Geery's contention that the Wright Brothers took a wrong turn, please visit his airship page (hyperblimp.com). Apparently, Geery is the only...

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Daniel GeeryGeery lived off the grid for 15 years in an earth-sheltered, solar heated home, while his kids learned in school that solar energy isn't feasible. NAPTA hosts a page on Geery's foibles in education, and explains how he got his butt fired from a tenured teaching position. Here's a short clip of his most recent solar contraption; for more on that project, and Geery's contention that the Wright Brothers took a wrong turn, please visit his airship page (hyperblimp.com). Apparently, Geery is the only...

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Thank you, David

David Swanson has consistently shown vast insight, extraordinary grasp of the facts, clarity that I see nowhere else, an unyielding tenacity to genuine human values, a profound understand of government process, courage, and a magical quality of appearing with ideas and even physically at critical times and places.

I recommend that when you see his byline, you read or at least skim the article. You won't be disappointed.

And if I ever see David's name on a ballot, rest assurred that he will get my vote. 

by Daniel Geery (26 articles, 55 quicklinks, 121 diaries, 657 comments) on Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 12:17:14 PM
 


Ernest is not a professional writer. Nor well educated in political affairs. However, he has uniquely experienced life styles of those who have little.
ErnestErnest is not a professional writer. Nor well educated in political affairs. However, he has uniquely experienced life styles of those who have little.

Well lenngray................................

I kinda look at it like this...............you should've thought about your familiy before you chose Congress as a career.............walking a straight line and upholding the Law are prerequisits of these type positions................I suggest if you can't take the heat...........then it's time you get out of the kitchen......................................no sympathy here.......

by Ernest (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 130 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 10:54:22 AM
 


Virginia Simson is a spiritual journalista/activist who runs a visionary planetary tutorial blogspot, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com as well as a blog on the uranium industry and depleted uranium at www.lowlevelradiation.blogspot.com. She feels that we must educate the young as to the real issues of the day - economics, clean energy, a drug free lifestyle, friendship and concern for the environment. We must plan for seven generations in the future. She unconditionally supports impeachment and...

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ladybroadoakVirginia Simson is a spiritual journalista/activist who runs a visionary planetary tutorial blogspot, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com as well as a blog on the uranium industry and depleted uranium at www.lowlevelradiation.blogspot.com. She feels that we must educate the young as to the real issues of the day - economics, clean energy, a drug free lifestyle, friendship and concern for the environment. We must plan for seven generations in the future. She unconditionally supports impeachment and...

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Thank you. Totally timely ...

 

 Something is up with posting OpEd News links all day today and so I've had to leave them out in order to post anything here .. 

 

The new nomination of the creepy Michael Mukasey has me riled. Maybe WORSE than Alito, which really got my goat back in the day .. I was posting everyone I knew to WARN Them what would happen in that case.

What annoys me is how hard it is to dig out anything about him, as the urls proliferate like mad about his Jose Padillo bs .. and I am positive there is much more . and we must make certain it ALL comes to light, as this appointment may be hard to stop without exposing his entire "polical" stance,l as the right wingers are already setting up scenario that says "he may be political, but he'll up hold the Constitution" .. As we can see, he put the last of the 10 civil rights up for cancellation ..

There appears to be nothing BuZh&Co. does that doesn't have a very hidden agenda. So what is it here ..?

Here comes the latest which ran in the daily kos, the link simply will not take ...



Now if this allegation below (no reason to think it isn't) is TRUE, it could well be an additional reasoon that Mukasey is the pick .. being PRO Labor racketering (He and his committee covered it up) which is USEFUL if the North American Union comes into being!!! He is accused of helping CONGRESS cover up dirty money ... (which could explain why Congress would let him in AND further the NWO agenda at the same time ...

QUESTION FOR EXAMINATION
Did the Mukasey Panel by and through their Summary Order 03-3117 filed
January 14, 2004 (attached) continue a systematic pattern to hide documented Judicial
Fraud and Extra Judicial Acts of Misconduct committed by District Judge Janet C. Hall
– doing so by intentionally avoiding the procedural process of a 28 U.S.C. 455 affidavit
and motion (the premise of the appeal) in order to circumvent the standard of review for
a 28 U.S.C. 455 motion, that being: "Impartiality might reasonably be questioned"?"

And this is from theguilianapapers. typepad.com about his son. .... interesting CONNECTION to the Guilani rightwingers. BINGO!!

Marc Mukasey - Partner at Bracewell & Giuliani where he "focuses on the defense of white collar criminal and regulatory cases." The firm also states: "Recently, Mr. Mukasey has been successful in persuading Department of Justice prosecutors to close an antitrust investigation against a major corporation without the filing of charges, and to drop securities fraud and mail fraud investigations of his business clients. He also successfully argued a downward departure motion that secured a favorable outcome for his client in the face of vigorous opposition by the Department of Justice." Marc's father, Michael Mukasey, former chief judge of the Southern District of New York, is also a member of Giuliani's Justice Advisory Committee.

And you may want to search antiwar dot ome showing how Mukasey's brand of justice shown in the Padilla case will totally decimate the US Bill of Rights .. again, the link won't take but go to antiwar dot come and look for horton and article Id 6919.

 

I've had trouble with OpEd News links all day, and so have my ebuddies.

If people find other interesting links on this, perhaps they could post them here iffen they can....? I meant to write on this topic for OpEd today .. as this is so highly troubling. More is going on than meets the eye ...

by ladybroadoak (37 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 390 comments) on Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 11:20:23 PM
 


Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.
Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.

#12

#12 - well, you see, we're (us so-called representatives of the people) all are kind of guilty because we really don't give a fat-rat's-ass about all you piss-ant peasants. You Cindy Sheehans, Michael Moores, Charlie Sheens, Sean Penns or any of you other David Swansons out there can think say or do anything as long as you don't get in our way. For we will kill you and get away with it. For you see we're nothing but shills for the ones that have their hands up our butts like so many hand puppets telling us what to say.

It took Monks burning themselves to death in front of the White House last time things got bad.

Things are much worse now.

Now what will it take?

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 1056 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 2:47:43 AM
 


KEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades.  He sees himself as a peace educator and have been   a promoter of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues."I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and publish.  I...

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ALONEKEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades.  He sees himself as a peace educator and have been   a promoter of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues."I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and publish.  I...

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In fact the threat of impeachment is usually enough to resto

This is an important quote. "In fact the threat of impeachment is usually enough to restore a level of justice and democracy in Washington, D.C.  A promise not to impeach, on the other hand, tends to encourage abuses of power and is itself an unconstitutional abuse of power."  I spent September 15 writing to 5 congressmen on behalf of the IMPEACH FOR PEACE campaign http://impeachforpeace.org/ImpeachNow.html.   I recommend we all write them and our own local congressmen and send letters to newspapers or put them on line--plus speak out in front of all local media!

by ALONE (114 articles, 1 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 251 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 3:44:33 AM
 


KEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades.  He sees himself as a peace educator and have been   a promoter of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues."I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and publish.  I...

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ALONEKEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades.  He sees himself as a peace educator and have been   a promoter of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues."I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and publish.  I...

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I POSTED THIS COMMENT TO MY LOCAL NEWSPAPER JUST NOW!

This morning I was reading David Swanson's brilliantly argued IS PEACE OR IMPEACHMENT POSSIBLE?--a piece on the ability, need and requirement for our congressmen to impeach the president and vice-president.  If interested, you can read it youself at OP-ED.

One of his better arguments by Swanson is that: "You won't hear much about it on the news, but a bill had been introduced in July to impeach Gonzales, and it was gaining support during the August recess.  In fact a bunch of Congress Members added their names to the list of cosponsors this month even though Gonzales had already announced his resignation.  This was not the first time that an effort to impeach helped force out an unjust attorney general.  An effort to impeach Richard Nixon forced him out as well.  An effort to impeach Harry Truman led to the Supreme Court checking his abuses of power.  In fact the threat of impeachment is usually enough to restore a level of justice and democracy in Washington, D.C.  A promise not to impeach, on the other hand, tends to encourage abuses of power and is itself an unconstitutional abuse of power."

I believe that if we don't stop this warring president and his side-kick or manipulator, Dick Cheney, our grandchildren and their grandchildren will cry out in dismay:  "Granddaddy, why didn't anyone stop those guys from lying, leading the country to their unthought out wars and destroying our precious consitution and country?"

ALL REAL AMERICANS AND TRUE CONGRESSMEN NEED TO GET ON THE BANDWAGON OF HISTORY--IMPEACH THE LIARS AND MANIPULATORS NOW!!!!

get everyone else in the USA to follow suit! 

 

by ALONE (114 articles, 1 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 251 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 4:13:01 AM
 


Just another lacky for Peace and Impeachment
LickBushJust another lacky for Peace and Impeachment

A Suggestion

Great Article, Thank you!

I have a suggestion that might, just might have an impact.  If we can spread the word,   "No Dem Donations in October"   To let these jokers know how many of us, simply want an investigation, if they are impeached, great,  but at least try.

 They are dying for $$$$$ if enough people STOP donating they will listen.

 

Cheers

 

by LickBush (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 5:15:22 PM
 

 

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