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January 23, 2008 at 13:11:50

A Goverment of Liars Must Be Brought Down

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It is time for action. If Congress will not act then it is up to we the people to clean house from top to bottom.
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CLean house

as in house of representatives or both houses of congress!!

by Rob Kall (805 articles, 3917 quicklinks, 331 diaries, 1697 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 1:54:19 PM

Dave Lindorff, a columnist for Counterpunch, is author of several recent books ("This Can't Be Happening! Resisting the Disintegration of American Democracy" and "Killing Time: An Investigation into the Death Penalty Case of Mumia Abu-Jamal"). His latest book, coauthored with Barbara Olshanshky, is "The Case for Impeachment: The Legal Argument for Removing President George W. Bush from Office (St. Martin's Press, May 2006). His writing is available at http://www.thiscantbehappening.net
Dave LindorffDave Lindorff, a columnist for Counterpunch, is author of several recent books ("This Can't Be Happening! Resisting the Disintegration of American Democracy" and "Killing Time: An Investigation into the Death Penalty Case of Mumia Abu-Jamal"). His latest book, coauthored with Barbara Olshanshky, is "The Case for Impeachment: The Legal Argument for Removing President George W. Bush from Office (St. Martin's Press, May 2006). His writing is available at http://www.thiscantbehappening.net

well I'd go for both

But the key is that the House initiates impeachment, and I'd say no member of congress who fails to endorse impeachment hearings doesn't deserve reelection.

by Dave Lindorff (340 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 157 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 2:04:43 PM

George Washington

George Washington is a pen name. I am using the pen name, with the approval of the publisher, because I have received death threats due to my 9/11 research and writing. I am using a pen name to protect myself and my family.
George WashingtonGeorge Washington

George Washington is a pen name. I am using the pen name, with the approval of the publisher, because I have received death threats due to my 9/11 research and writing. I am using a pen name to protect myself and my family.

Mr. Lindorff and all,

Does anyone know if there is a way to impeach/remove/recall or otherwise fire senators or representatives if they won't follow the will of the people (without having to wait for elections)

by George Washington (76 articles, 24 quicklinks, 167 diaries, 185 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 2:11:29 PM

To Help Our Country. To research Real Investigative Journalism and Independent Sources who report the Truth, the Facts and the Lies. This is the only way Citizens can hold accountable; corrupt officials, corrupt corporations and a corrupt Media. -All who are profiteering while destroying what Americans, Soldiers, Veterans have fought so hard and died for.
The Smiths.. Defend the ConstitutionTo Help Our Country. To research Real Investigative Journalism and Independent Sources who report the Truth, the Facts and the Lies. This is the only way Citizens can hold accountable; corrupt officials, corrupt corporations and a corrupt Media. -All who are profiteering while destroying what Americans, Soldiers, Veterans have fought so hard and died for.

A Goverment of Liars Must Be Brought Down

Thank you for reporting the truth.

WE HAVE NEVER SEEN AN ADMINISTRATION, PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, ADVISORS, LOBBYISTS IN CONGRESS, THE MEDIA OR ATTY GENERALS WITH THIS LEVEL OF CRIMINAL CONDUCT, HIGH CRIMES, CRIMINAL COVERUP, OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, PROPAGANDA & THE HARMING OF OUR COUNTRY. EVER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgHEq33HHOg

by The Smiths.. Defend the Constitution (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 2:16:23 PM

State of Union

Kucinich to Introduce Articles of Impeachment Against Bush
--> on Monday, January 28, State of Union Day

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/kucinich-starts-new-impeachment-drive/

by The Smiths.. Defend the Constitution (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 2:23:07 PM

Political Activist fighting Bush's Arrogant Abuse of Power~~

Impeach for Truth and Justice!!

~~Portland, OR
StyvePolitical Activist fighting Bush's Arrogant Abuse of Power~~

Impeach for Truth and Justice!!

~~Portland, OR

Hopefully Kucinich will live to see the day...

...that these criminals are sent away!! What ever came of his brother's death...was that legit or was he killed?

Keep fighting and a huge THANKS to Dennis Kucinich and Wexler for keeping impeachment alive!!

Styve

by Styve (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 37 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 6:26:34 PM

Brett Paatsch is an Australian born secular humanist with degrees in management and science and an interest in politics. He is a former pro-American that wishes to be pro-American again and thinks the impeachment and repudiation of President George W Bush for the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 is necessary to reestablish trust in American signatures on international treaties and confidence in the global rule of law.
Brett PaatschBrett Paatsch is an Australian born secular humanist with degrees in management and science and an interest in politics. He is a former pro-American that wishes to be pro-American again and thinks the impeachment and repudiation of President George W Bush for the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 is necessary to reestablish trust in American signatures on international treaties and confidence in the global rule of law.

Where indeed?

At this point, we should have hordes of people pressing on the iron fences of the White House, armed with pitchforks, baseball bats and cattle prods, ready to storm the place and wreak vengeance. Where are the angry relatives of dead and maimed soldiers? Where are the idealistic students? Where are the taxpayers who’ve been robbed blind? Where’s the outraged Congress? Where are the incensed editorialists in the media?

Has democracy become too complicated and too much like hard work for contemporary Americans? In 1940 Joe Kennedy said "Democracy is finished". Perhaps he was just premature.

Pitchfolks aren't used any more. Not only are the tools gone but so too are the vast numbers of independent self reliant farmers that weilded them.

The families of the dead and maimed soldiers are relatively few (compared to Vietnam) and widely dispersed. The idealistic students don't have the threat of being drafted to invigorate their idealism.

I think that what we are seeing in America is that citizens, American citizens in this case, are simply unwilling in sufficient numbers to shoulder the adult burden of citizenship. Laws can't enforce themselves. Oaths taken aren't going to be upheld if citizens don't demand it.

I don't think Americans are unlikely to be different to the rest of the world in that they will not on average go to a great deal of trouble or bother themselves with outrage until it comes closer to them personally.

Perhaps saddly terrorism and asymmetric warfare may be necessary parts of human progress at this point in history because in a world of nations the only things that the citizens of those individual nations will clamour for in sufficient numbers is their own short term interests and so those will be the only interests that their representatives will represent.

With the United States of America perhaps we are seeing the end of democratic nationhood where the citizen is empowered with freedom of speach and association. Perhaps national democracies can't stand separately as nations in the world anymore than the ancient Greek city could.

by Brett Paatsch (0 articles, 2 quicklinks, 22 diaries, 1010 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 7:34:05 PM

This may be of interest

To Replace Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House of Representatives for the Purposes of Pursuing Impeachment

by Brett Paatsch (0 articles, 2 quicklinks, 22 diaries, 1010 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 10:43:00 PM

Sorry this was supposed to be under George's question

by Brett Paatsch (0 articles, 2 quicklinks, 22 diaries, 1010 comments) on Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 12:09:48 AM

retired and loving it
dave stanleyretired and loving it

Americans you have lost

73,000+ dead soldiers

212,000 crippled for life

untold will die soon of toxic DU poisoning

on lies

democrats like Pelosi there will be no impeachment

today you live by the sword your govts. have ruined your backbone Industries by allowing unfair trade practices

now you live by the sword and the Industrially war complex is your backbone

756 bases around the world

economy in collapse all around you

inflation will be running rampant this year eating away your pensions

the dollar in free fall

war is your backbone Industry because the same people that buried your traditional back bone industrials like auto manufacturing are the ones that own the war industrials

so cunning they are

they have you where they want you

one event from marshal law , Black water and North American Union

the only way to change this nation. It will take a revolution a Ron Paul revolution but people have not seen the light of day .

America you are at your sunset

weep weep weep

by dave stanley (5 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 286 comments) on Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 2:07:33 AM

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Thomas FieselmannNone listed - -

Kleftocracy: Government of Liars

Not an original word, kleftocracy, but similar to "kleptocracy" and used to describe the Noriega government in Panama.

by Thomas Fieselmann (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 18 comments) on Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 8:15:11 AM

I am a Vietnam Vet disabled by MS and other various diseases. On average I am a Moderate with slight Conservative leanings although it truly depends on what issue I am concerned with at the time.
Hayesml47I am a Vietnam Vet disabled by MS and other various diseases. On average I am a Moderate with slight Conservative leanings although it truly depends on what issue I am concerned with at the time.

Let me get this straight!

William Jefferson Clinton told one lie and was impeached! George Walker Bush told 935 lies and Congress shoves it's head deeper in the Potomac! Something does not compute! I think this should require a complete investigation of both the administration and Congress. But who are we going to get to do this? Can the govenors of all 50 states get together and appoint an honorable committee to carry this out with the required authority? Is there a virgin and three wisemen left in this country?(for those this offends I apologize) We certainly cannot trust either the Supreme Court or the Attorney Generals Office. Even voting out all incumbents will be too late to do any good. I don't suppose the Superfriends or the Ghostbusters really exist do they? At what level of our corrupt government can we trust to find an honest qualified group to carry out this most needed inquirey? Maybe a group of comedians such as Lewis Black, Dennis Leary, Robin Williams, Jay Leno, David Letterman, and Steve Colbert could be sworn in and administer the proper investigation and justice. They do seem to be some of the most aware folks in this country as to what has been going on and they would be entertaining. I suppose a lynch mob would be frowned upon. Anyone else have a great idea on how to investigate and incarcerate all the miscreants we have residing within our government? We need help!

by Hayesml47 (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 461 comments) on Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 8:42:39 AM

Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

The lies that are documented are only the tip of the iceberg

There are uncounted thousands of lies from this administration in support of the 935 that have been documented. These lies are both articulated and tacit.

As one example, there is the maintenance of an "all volunteer" Army, where the force is overextended and fraying at the seams to the point where it endangers a ligitimate defense of the Republic. The reason for this is that the administration understands that the people will beef about only what affects them as individuals. Initiating a draft to ease the strain on the armed forces would so affect a great number of people who would then be disinclined to entertain themselves with consumerism instead of resisting their government.

Another example is the press blackout (with the acquiescence of the press) on imagery of our lost soldiers retuning from Iraq, and twisted counting rules on the published figures of how many we have lost. The injured are similarly treated to keep the people in the dark.

The standing order is, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" And as most of us nod in agreement, we go about our shopping chores.

by John Sanchez Jr. (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 1158 comments) on Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 9:04:02 AM

Hater of Nazis above all. Hobbies include activism, military model building, military history, exciting and vital conversation with retired crooks. Retired
John HanksHater of Nazis above all. Hobbies include activism, military model building, military history, exciting and vital conversation with retired crooks. Retired

Liars Court

Have a liars court made up of a rotating group of jurists. Each lie brought to the attention of the court demands an appearance. People are exposed to about 3000 lies every day, but that number should drop quickly because people are natually mean and sadistic.

If a liar is found guilty, he will be chained to a nearby lamp post for a morning or afternoon and forced to wear an appropriate sign and a funny hat. Then he must be forced to spend a day in community service telling everyone the story of his lie. Lie of ommission will be hard to deal with, but not impossible. The penalty for trying con the court will be double.

No prisons, no lawyers.

by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1186 comments) on Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 12:51:12 PM