Many thanks go to our Editor here

for letting such a poorly written article go through at all. My next one will be better and with less typos, promised!

Regarding the URL our Editor has posted, by all means, please do go there and read what you find there. Information is information. Good and bad. First you gather info then you sift it. Out with the bad info, in stays the good. Rethinking one's position every now and then is another good idea. You get on your bike and you ride, but without looking back ....the journey is incomplete and only partially comprehended / digested. I don't know why I keep using metaphors like this....it must be the JayHawk in me.

From the URL the Editor mentioned ;

" Was our government complicit in the 9/11 attacks?

The PDF file linked to below is from Skeptics Magazine earlier this spring. It goes over all of the evidence in great detail. Anyone researching the topic must read this article before coming to any conclusions.

Personally, I think Bush and Cheney are far too incompetent to pull off anything like the conspiracy theorists propose. Instead, I think they just played the tragedy for all it was worth, and then a whole bunch more."

I've heard this one before. Many times as a fatter old Mack. As a so-called "9/11 truth seeker", and I really can't understand why anyone cannot belong to such a group seeing as the truth is still "out there somewhere" but it sure as get out ain't in the official report.

No, Dubya is not capable. I never went down that road. Dubya doesn't play a role in my 9/11 books. Cheney ? He sure does and I'll elaborate on that AFTER reading that article over at http://www.factinista.org/

peace & luv

r 

by Tony Forest (4 articles, 14 quicklinks, 131 diaries, 1216 comments) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 2:12:30 PM
 

Okay, I read the pdf

pdf files can be a pain in the buffer. This one is okay although the print quality lacks ; I printed it out and had it for dessert after a delicious portion of curry.

First off, we're looking at a very well written, well thought out article aimed at debunking the debunkers. This kind of article could.....guessing here...take up to one month's preperation ?? I wrote mine in less than one hour ...on the  side...as you can see. It' obvious so why try to hide it, I say.

I see a lot to nag about in that pdf. My print version has notes so I can elaborate on any part of that docu if anyone wishes. Be reminded, Curtis is not an expert at anything. Curtis is Curtis and he does not believe the official story. Having said that, I, Curtis, am not "THE" 9/11 truth movement in persona. I am me and I have MY opinion and my .....opinion. In this pdf artile, 9/11 truth seekers are corralled into one group...as if we were cattle.

"The 9/11 Truthseekers say .......believe....."

Wrongo, Bonzo. We are not "them". I am me and you are you.  I have to cut this short as it's closer to midnight here where I am than it is there where ....they let it happen on purpose (to say the least).

The pdf goes straight into details. I don't. Get the big picture and you can see ....cui bono. You can also see who the patsies were and why they did what they did.....under very tight surveillance of the FBI & the CIA. The pdf throws the truth seekers in one boat with Alex Jones. Of all people ! Is the author that naive ? Not to mention "Loose Change". It deliberately picks out the weakest spots in "the movement" and tries to spread that taint over the complete picture. 

I'll have to take note of this method of dissection and forced association in an effort to discredit otherwise plausible argumentations.  

Al Qaeda (spell it any way you wish, my Kurdish colleagues have their own way of spelling this name) = Patsies. A perfect picture. Did we learn even one spec from Dealey Plaza ?

Yes, we did. And how ! 

CointelPro.....was phased out, right ? Wrong.

More from me as more from you'all appears here.  The more the merrier so dig in and whip it up ! btw, a comment from Mary would be VERY enticing. 

by Tony Forest (4 articles, 14 quicklinks, 131 diaries, 1216 comments) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 3:49:38 PM
 

Small world

I just had a nice plate of curry too...

 Scary

:) 

by John R Moffett (80 articles, 14 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 601 comments) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 5:08:28 PM
 

Cheney & Rumsy, not Dubya

as in "will the real pResident...please stand down, please stand down, please stand down?"

Have a look at http://911review.com/means/standdown.html

Again, details are not necessary, but if you want and need details, they're there. Some argue there was no real need for a stand down simply because of all the confusion as a result of the multiple war games that day. Perhaps. But who's bright idea was it to stage all those war games that day ? It wasn't Dubya's idea.

snippet from that web page;

"It's inconceivable that New York City could be struck by two
wayward jumbo jets, and still over 30 minutes later there
remained no defenses over the skies of Washington D.C., easily
one of the most heavily defended places in the world.

This reality led Anatoli Kornukov, the commander-in-chief of the
Russian Air Force to say: "Generally it is impossible to carry
out an act of terror on the scenario which was used in the USA
yesterday. (...) As soon as something like that happens here, I
am reported about that right away and in a minute we are all up."

It really was a thorough and well planned job. The logistics of it all. Each participant had to be of the opinion he is doing his duty and that it is what we call "business as usual" with the exception of the patsies who were convinced they were pullnig it all off...all on their own. LOL

I'd really rather write and talk about music and peace and festivals and mutli-culti matters but as it is, I have no other choice but to go after the one big event which changed even my life, way over here in old Europe.

What's on TV ? Got a lite ? zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

by Tony Forest (4 articles, 14 quicklinks, 131 diaries, 1216 comments) on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 5:43:48 AM