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January 22, 2008 at 10:08:57

"AVOIDING THE NEXT 9/11" – on MLK Day Loose Change Producers w/ "The Shell Game" N.Y. Times Best Selling Author, Intervi

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 Alten also got into the frightening aspects of “The Patriot Act,” which the profoundly well informed interviewers catalogued off the top of their heads, and how the masses of America are distracted by popular culture. 

 In closing the interviewers and the author issued the hope that “The Shell Game” offers a mainstream popular culture exposure to truth that can avoid future false flag misery, and Dylan Avery voiced what an honor it had been sitting in with “The Shell Game” best selling author, Steve Alten.



 You can listen to this amazing interview now at:

http://gcnlive.com/On_Demand/Playlists/louder.ram 

You can also view video trailers of “The Shell Game” 9/11 truth telling novel, which people are now emailing and posting throughout the internet.  SHARE THEM AND THE INTERVIEW LINK WIDELY.
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By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, 9/11 and Media Crimes" and also "Why the Jewish Community Should Demand 9/11 Truth."

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By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Bill DouglasBy William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Your above post, Roark, let's everyone know you're A LIAR

Although "Loose Change - The Final Cut" tells the world truths that Roark can't handle . . . he still can't deny that "Loose Change" has been seen by tens of millions of people worldwide, and shown on National TV in several nations, and is being expanded in UK theatre distribution as sell out crowds are attending.

Sorry about that Roark.

And yes, Alten's (author of the explosive new novel THE SHELL GAME) novels, beginning with "MEGA" have been not only NY Times best sellers, but also became feature films.

Roark so badly wants everyone to believe THE OFFICIAL LIES OF 9/11 . . . THAT I'M SURE BY NOW NO ONE IS SURPRISED TO SEE HIM TRY TO LIE TO YOU ALL ABOUT "ALTEN" AND "LOOSE CHANGE."

Roark squirms and spews falsehoods when truths begin to find the light of day.

Sorry Roark.

by Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 12:28:30 PM
 


I am a bone fide skeptic. I find the glut of nonsense posted on the internet to be particulary annoying. My goal is to explore the realms of stupidity and hold them up for closer inspection. This can be tricky, since stupid evaporates quickly in the light of reason.
Roark HowardI am a bone fide skeptic. I find the glut of nonsense posted on the internet to be particulary annoying. My goal is to explore the realms of stupidity and hold them up for closer inspection. This can be tricky, since stupid evaporates quickly in the light of reason.

The MEG movie project

appears to be deader than a doornail.  Form Alten's newsletter last July:

MEG MOVIE: Extinct at New Line Cinema
Yes, this is bad news mostly in the wasted two years. The key execs at New Line always treated MEG like an unwanted stepchild, and now, with my option set to expire in October, the decided NOT to proceed.

http://www.stevealten.com/july_2007.htm

by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 1:30:46 PM
 


By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Bill DouglasBy William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Roark, again (yawn) is decieving you. He refers to the new

 Roark, again (yawn) is decieving you.  He refers to the new "Loose Change Final Cut," ignoring the 1st two editions with tens of millions of viewers.  As you see in the below Vanity Fair Article on the Loose Change producers, they've had a profound influence on global thought in regards to 9/11 truth their documentary work.

Now, I know what they've done doesn't rival Roark's typing on his keyboard in between scratching his pimples . . . but most rational humans would agree that documentarians who've had tens of millions of viewers and influenced a generation would fall in the catagory of renowned and acclaimed documentarians.

Of course they have had to face against a global media, aided by mind numbingly un-curious people like Roark, who's tried to insult and degrade them and their work of trying to bring out some ugly truths about 9/11.  But, Loose Change beat the odds and had an impact.

Now, not as much of an impact as the pithy snarly Roark has in his own mind.  But, in the real world.  Yes they have.

 

One of the first American officials to publicly acknowledge conspiracy theories in connection with 9/11 was President George Bush, who on November 10, 2001, in a speech to the General Assembly of the United Nations, said, "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September 11."

Yet according to a May 2006 Zogby poll, 42 percent of Americans now believe that the U.S. government and the 9/11 commission "concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence that contradicts their official explanation of the September 11th attacks," and that "there has been a cover-up."

For those who can't find information about the alleged cover-up on the nightly news, there is Loose Change, a documentary about 9/11 conspiracy theories which just might be the first Internet blockbuster. Since it appeared on the Web in April 2005, the 80-minute film has been climbing up and down Google Video's "Top 100," rising to No. 1 this May, with at least 10 million viewings.

by Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:01:10 PM
 


I am a bone fide skeptic. I find the glut of nonsense posted on the internet to be particulary annoying. My goal is to explore the realms of stupidity and hold them up for closer inspection. This can be tricky, since stupid evaporates quickly in the light of reason.
Roark HowardI am a bone fide skeptic. I find the glut of nonsense posted on the internet to be particulary annoying. My goal is to explore the realms of stupidity and hold them up for closer inspection. This can be tricky, since stupid evaporates quickly in the light of reason.

LOL

Roark, again (yawn) is decieving you.  He refers to the new "Loose Change Final Cut," ignoring the 1st two editions with tens of millions of viewers.  

If the first two editions were so good, why did they keep reissuing it?

LCFC was the fourth edition.  Why does the "truth" need continual re-editing?

by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:09:46 PM
 


By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Bill DouglasBy William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Roark's religion is the official govt. 9/11 myth, so he has

Roark's religion is the official govt. 9/11 myth, so he has revisions.  Oh, wait, I guess he has since the govt.s 9/11 (NIST) story keeps changing.

But, the Loose Change people are seaching for something Roark and his ilk are trying to suppress . . . truth.

In a quest for truth, when the govt. and corporate media and their hordes like Roark . . . try to cover up, squelch, and lie about everything they can . . . then new editions as new facts come to light are to be expected.

I think everyone here is onto Roark's motivations by now.

So for those who DO WANT A NEW 9/11 INVESTIGATION . . . URGE ALL TO GET "THE SHELL GAME" OUT TODAY IN BOOKSTORES NATIONWIDE !!!

by Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:21:13 PM
 


By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Bill DouglasBy William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Roark is decieving you all again. No surprise there.

Roark put a link to a Kevin Barrett review of "The Shell Game" and led you to think Barrett condemned it.  That link includes these comments from Barrett on "The Shell Game."

" a gripping read that packs a huge 9/11 truth wallop, and if we're smart we'll help push it to the top of the NY Times bestseller list."

"My differences with pro-Zionist Lubarsky did not stop us from working together on an interfaith 9/11 truth book--and my differences with Steve Alten are not going to stop me from supporting the good that he's doing."

by Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 1:52:38 PM
 


I am a bone fide skeptic. I find the glut of nonsense posted on the internet to be particulary annoying. My goal is to explore the realms of stupidity and hold them up for closer inspection. This can be tricky, since stupid evaporates quickly in the light of reason.
Roark HowardI am a bone fide skeptic. I find the glut of nonsense posted on the internet to be particulary annoying. My goal is to explore the realms of stupidity and hold them up for closer inspection. This can be tricky, since stupid evaporates quickly in the light of reason.

Kevin Barrett

Actually, I don't know if what Kevin Barrett wrote should be considdered a pluss or a minus for the "truth" movement. 

Well, a few have. Alten has recently taken some heat for ignoring Israeli connections to 9/11: http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=624 And some of my Muslim and Muslim-friendly friends have found parts of the book painfully Islamophobic. One friend--a well-known 9/11 truth movement figure--found the book too painful to read.

 

The Shell Game isn't perfect, either artistically (Shakespeare it ain't) or politically (the author doesn't have the good taste to share all of my views about everything).

 

I disagree with Alten on some important issues. For example, Alten casts Hamas and Hezbullah as among the villains, while for me--as for virtually all of the planet's 1.5 billion Muslims, and everyone else who supports the right to resist illegal occupation and aggression, a right granted by international law--those groups are heroes.

 

As I told a shocked Sandra Lubarsky, Jewish co-editor of 9/11 & American Empire: Christians, Jews, and Muslims Speak Out
http://www.amazon.com/11-American-Empire-Christians-Muslims/dp/156656660...
comparing Israel to apartheid South Africa is an insult to the Afrikaaners.

I do know that Barrett's hate mongering is pretty typical for the 9/11 truth crowd. 

by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:06:37 PM
 


Electrical Engineer
Harold SmithElectrical Engineer

Please point out where you see all the "hate".

Also, please define what, precisely, "hate" means to you.

Lastly, is "hate" always "bad" or can it ever be justified? For example, let's say a group of robbers broke into your house, and gratuitously tortured and slaughtered your whole family in cold blood. Would you be justified if you were to "hate" that group of robbers or no?

by Harold Smith (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 466 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 6:33:37 PM
 


By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Bill DouglasBy William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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What a Surprise, Murph Wouldn't See Anything Wrong With Roar

Roark makes stuff up as he goes along, of course Murph does too.
Meg: A Novel of Deep Terror (1997)
  #1 on Liberties Books & Music Bestseller List
  #4 on the Duane Read and Albertson’’s Chain List
  #7 on Publisher’’s Weekly Audio Fiction Bestseller List
  #12 on the Wall Street Journal Bestseller List
  #13 on Walden Books Bestseller List
  #17 on Walmart’’s Bestseller List
  #17 on Publisher’’s Weekly Bestseller List
  #19 on The New York Times Bestseller List
  Also on the Barnes & Noble and USA Today Bestseller List
  Sold 100,000 hardbacks domestically
  Sold 650,000 + copies domestic paperback
  Published in over 20 countries
  best-seller list in France & Germany, radio show in Japan
  now being used in over 8,000 middle & high school curriculums nationwide!
* MEG MOVIE:
First option by Hollywood Pictures (Disney) in 1996 but changes at the studio reverted the rights back to Alten. New Line Cinema optioned in 2005. They chose not to greenlight the project. A new A list producer has since been attached, announcements of a new studio deal are expected following settlement of the WGA strike. 
  
The Trench (1999)
  USA Today Top 60 Hardback Bestseller List
  #35 on The New York Times Paperback Bestseller List
  Sold 350,000 + copies domestic paperback
  Published in over a dozen countries
  used in over 8,000 middle & high school curriculums nationwide.
Alten's other books include
DOMAIN (St Martins Press) Top TAYSHA (Texas Library) selection
GOLIATH (St. Martins Press)
RESSURECTION (St. Martins Press)
MEG: Primal Waters (St. Martins Press)
The LOCH (Tsunami Books) Top TAYSHA selection, optioned by producer 

BOTTOM LINE IS THE MURPH AND ROARK DON'T WANT THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO EXAMINE THE EVENTS OF 9/11.

ANYONE FOLLOWING ANY OPED THREADS SEE THAT. 

SO EVERYONE GIVE THEM A THRILL AND TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW ABOUT "THE SHELL GAME" AND URGE THEM TO TELL EVERYONE THEY KNOW.
SO WE CAN BUILD A MASS DEMAND FOR A NEW 9/11 INVESTIGATION.

by Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 4:12:52 PM
 


I am a bone fide skeptic. I find the glut of nonsense posted on the internet to be particulary annoying. My goal is to explore the realms of stupidity and hold them up for closer inspection. This can be tricky, since stupid evaporates quickly in the light of reason.
Roark HowardI am a bone fide skeptic. I find the glut of nonsense posted on the internet to be particulary annoying. My goal is to explore the realms of stupidity and hold them up for closer inspection. This can be tricky, since stupid evaporates quickly in the light of reason.

Liberties Books & Music best seller - Whoopie!

So in other words he is a Liberties Books & Music best seller, but no a N. Y. Times Best seller.   

BOTTOM LINE IS THE MURPH AND ROARK DON'T WANT THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO EXAMINE THE EVENTS OF 9/11.
 Wrong, by all means I want the general public to see the truth and the reality, not the fictional B.S. peddled by the 9/11 con-spiracy crowd.     

by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 3:51:48 PM
 


Just a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

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Tom MurphyJust a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

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Mr. ALten indicates MEG reached No. 19 on NYT in 1996

If Mr. Alten was on the New York Times bestseller listing, then it was beyond the top 10.  Fiction (hardcover or paperback) is reported to the 35th place - http://www.nytimes.com/pages/books/bestseller/index.html .  Mr. Alten's website details that "MEG: A Novel of Deep Terror" made it to No. 19 (presumed fiction)  on the New York Times (presumed bestsellers list) and No. 7 in audiobook format - does the Times actually track this category or is it implied from an audiobook website? - http://www.stevealten.com/bio.htm .

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 4 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 1707 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 3:28:26 PM
 


By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Bill DouglasBy William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Yeah, only losers go to the Olymics

Roark here is a winner, he hasn't wasted his life writing highly successful novels, and now an electrifying political tale that offers much to the world . . . "The Shell Game" I mean.

No, Roark has spent his life wisely . . . insulting and defaming anyone who dares question his neocon God's mythical 9/11 story that has so many holes that the majority of Americans no longer buy it.

This make's the Roark's of the world squirm, and try to insult and demean anyone who still has critical thinking skills.

Oh, by the way, urge all you know to get multiple copies of "The Shell Game" and "Loose Change Final Cut" and give them away to all your friends and family.

by Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 10:47:28 PM