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Questioning 9/11 and to Hell with Caution

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As for David Horowitz, here's a guy who is promoting a rash of anti-radical Islamic events on several US College campuses and in his last outing and along with his perpetual sidekick, Ann Coulter; had invited a guest speaker who turned out to be one of Britain's biggest holocaust deniers. Isn't that a kick in the shorts!?! Frankly I see him(and Coulter) in the same light as I see LaRouche, Bollyn, Piper and Carto.

(Slight retraction) Griffin was invited to Michigan State by the campus chapter of Young Americans for Freedom, not Mr Horowitz. However:

Young Americans Foundation vs Young Americans for Freedom

"Although the two always have had separate leadership, the Young America's Foundation has an informal connection with the similarly named Young Americans for Freedom, or YAF, founded in 1960. Robinson headed Young Americans for Freedom between 1977 and 1979, and much of the foundation's board and staff worked with YAF in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Robinson says that post-Watergate campaign-finance reforms undermined YAF as a political activist organization, and that it became clear that a conservative but nonpolitical educational organization would have an easier time raising money. "It was natural for us to move on," he says.

Young Americans for Freedom still exists, although president Jon Pastore says that it essentially had collapsed in 1994 when, out of desperation, all the members of the board announced their resignations and called for a new election.

"We literally started from scratch," says Pastore. "It was so bad we didn't have a list of where our campus chapters were. There are YAF groups out there that have been going along for years without any contact with us." Indeed, YAF has not even had its own office space since 1991.

But YAF slowly has rebuilt, and its first major event since 1991 will be an October conference in California. Sources in both organizations confirm that the leaders of the Young America's Foundation and Young Americans for Freedom have met to discuss an "enhanced partnership" -- a small step short of an all-out merger -- once YAF can re-create a formal national organization."

http://www.yaf.com/rebels2.shtml

So we have Ron Robinson the president of the Young Americans Foundation as also being a former leader and fund raiser for the Young Americans for Freedom! I find this revelation quite fascinating. In fact it could be said that perhaps this whole event at Michigan State University could have been staged. If that is the case then perhaps my retraction to Mr. Horowitz was premature.

When you look at its history(Young Americans for Freedom, the same group who sponsored Griffin at Michigan State), throw in Goldwater, the John Birch Society, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, then look at Horowitz and his Young Americans Foundation, it seems that what you basically have is yet another version of the same animal. Hell even their abbreviations are the same! There are obvious clear ties to this group and how one party couldn't have known what the other party was doing is questionable.

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Former alumni of the Young Americans for Freedom include former President Reagan; former national chairman and former U.S. Representative Robert Bauman; former California chairman and former California legislator Pat Nolan; U.S. Representative Dana Rohrabacher; former Vice President Dan Quayle; Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Chris Cox; U.S. Representative Tom Tancredo, a 2008 presidential candidate; American Conservative Union Chairman David Keene and a great number of other national and state politicians.

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