I think...

They will use the Sibel info against Turkey in order to get their help to invade Iran.

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 10:12:27 AM
 

It' really hard to say ..

I try to stay up on everything.

And it appears to me that the BuZhistas are very very busy setting up their plans to make off with as much money as they possibly can before the administration ends.

They are ALL globe trotting - every single one of them, despite the fact they know the US economy is going to tank.

So many people are SUCH dupes.

The ONLY answer really is impeachment and get them all grounded, but the people themselves are allowing this most Gigantic Ripoff of all times.

I know you read .. i bump into your comments. Tell me you don't see this whole thing as the Fall of Rome.  Hardly one citizen is left who is for Cesaer, who hasn't been hurt in some way. And that includes the torturers who are living in terrible fear these days as they know that they've committed WAR CRIMES.

 Either we get it together as a nation, at long last, OR someone is going to come in here and impose their own rule of law over us.

When people come on here and suggest that one of those presidential candidates is acceptable or "the lesser of evils" I get very ill.  We cannot allow the last of America's money to be used to kill yet another indigenous population and that is what's happening - more and more deaths of indigenous populations ever escalating.  The Turks are doing it in Kurdistan; and yet American money is being used to support that activity.

The US withdrew the black ops personnel in Kurdistan in November.  Where have they gone now?  What place is the next in line?

What makes people think that Bill and Hillary aren't in on ALL this - they supplied Khazakhstan with nuclear technology in exchange for making massive profits off the uranium mining there - NO ONE IN THE Mainstream Media is pushing her on the disclosures, not even Don Natta at the NYT's who is onto the whole game. The Frank Giustra connection is simply covered up and ignored!  

 To mine uranium you need only go look at a map of where copper is, very easy to do.  Most is on lands on by the indigenous peoples - In Australia and Kanata - and then you'll see that the arrests of aboriginals has ESCALATED in this areas.

 Most troubling of ALL is thie push to nationalize water in both the US and Canada - NOT a joke - that is what the SPP aims to do - to carry water down a conduit alongside the North American transnational highway.  States will cave in and support this as there are drought conditions in 25 US states.

Mining operations, particularly uranium, require massive amounts of water to function.  Massive - and once it's irridiated or acid enters the water table, it's all over.

When you look at all this from a wholistic point of view and get off the political high horse, you either get active, you prepare for the worst by getting your survival gear together OR you remain deluded.

There is truly going to be a Great Purification - and it's going to get far, far worse until it gets better as the American people - those who hold the deeds for so much of world's resources doesn't look like it's going to bottom out until it's survival is rammed in their faces.

 Sibel is not the only one living out here in the wilderness, playing Cassandra - I've been at it for forty years attacking the nuclear energy plans and I have paid a price.  A huge price.  One day people will wake and realize just how many others have, too.

 The US really screwed itself when it allowed the development of nuclear energy after WWII instead of burying all that POISON - and people have swallowed the poison pill and it shows in their insanity.

Particularly galling to me is the way the impeachment movement never gets on the anti nuclear band wagon - the use of this horrid material, depleted uranium, and its effects was well known by 1964!! And yet everyone who gets out and shows precisely the medical effects of du poisoning is attacked, belittled, STALKED and its' all paid for at US taxpayer expense, too!

I would like to think that the feeding frenzy by the greedy has met a wall - but that does NOT appear to be the case. The profits on uranium stocks are STAGGERING - and they people tip each other off at these high buck fundraisers, such as the ones that Bill Clinton and Frank Giustra instigated here as shortly ago as last November here in TO. And people think that Bill Clinton, Bill Gates and others are kind! Give me a friggin break.

This will sound very very arrogant - BUT - I have served warning to people and played Cassandra for many many years - and don't say I never told anyone - you all have only yourselves to blame because there are significant steps you can take to end the madness.

Work for impeachment, write the international criminal court and COMPLAIN against this and all other forms of CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.  Educate your neighbors - this is not a "job for experts" - this is for EVERYBODY TO DO.

ALL Americocentric political movements must now become planetized.

When Sibel says we've only heard 20%, I believe her - and I hope people pay attention to the remaining part; it is my conclusion that she, too, has put the pieces together in the jigsaw puzzle and it's interesting to note how it gets planted on threads that she is  a MOSSAD asset!  It's the same usual go after the activist woman thing that is going on EVERYWHERE, including with me.  I am constantly attacked as a disinfo agent on other sites.  Nobody seems to sit down and question why.

 I don't want me or my children to come out as glow worms or crispy critters.  It's THAT simple - and I don't care to see anyone else's children suffer those fates either.

by ladybroadoak (38 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 390 comments) on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 3:18:59 PM
 

I AM WITH YOU 100%

Truly.

I have been an activist for many years and I will admit before I was a true activist I was complacent in the sense I had an opinon, but never did anything about it until a couple short months after 9/11.

I do not hide who I am and I am very vocal and out there (not just hiding behind a keyboard with an opinion like many do). I feel by not hiding it keeps me safer - whatever that may mean. I do not let their fear mongering stunt me.

You are absolutely right about this being on all of our shoulders and I hope you know that I carry that burden along with you with great determination.

I too have been repeatedly attacked as an *activist woman* most prominently from the 9/11 Truth movement. I don't let it stop me. The paranioa runs rampant.

Our time is running short. Our work is imperrative to our survival IMHO.

Thank you for all you do. *hug*

Should you ever feel inclined to write for my new little, but growing news group I would welcome it.

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 5:07:24 PM
 

Sibel Edmonds has not been researched

by tom storey (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 58 comments) on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 2:53:49 PM
 

You would, you wear the "uniform"

but I am saying this and I am broadcasting this -

YOU ARE DOING YOU CHILDREN A HUGE DISFAVOR by not allowing the light to shine on this issue.

 Why are you writing letters like this instead of 1. working for impeachment and HEARINGS, 2. NOt involved in a movement about CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY and a return to the rule of law, 3. basing your comments on SPECULATION and not establishing what is really happening in the world of nuclear energy ..

I read these attacks - and some are very very slick - and I wonder how much someone gets paid when they write them.

Why are YOU afraid to let the light shine on the truth, sir - in this INSANE WORLD, what have you got to lose if that happens?

There's a petition over at www.wexlerwantshearings.com and I suggest you sign it if you want to show LEADERSHIP and RESPONSIBILITY, instead of being another piece of sand.

People like you only encourage me to work harder than ever.

One only has SO much energy, why not put it to GOOD USE?

by ladybroadoak (38 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 390 comments) on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 3:27:00 PM
 

I reread your comment

I find it more disturbing than on the first read.

 Let me make this clear - I am older than 9th generation as a WHITE american, but I am an orginal!  Your credentials, sir, are no more credible than mine.

I don't "cash in" on my white heritage and it does not mean that I am wrong as I don't use "corporate" and "government" connections to make my points.

Please, we are in enough shite already - time for the light to be shone on ALL aspects of crime and corruption - take off the blinders and LOOK AROUND YOU.  Go have a long, leisurely visit at Yucca Mountain and the graveyards where the dead uranium (slaves!) miners are buried.  Read up on genocide towards native peoples.

Then tell me about your "heritage" -

Native people have warned over and over and over about the nuclear destruction to come - AND they are the dead bodies who mined that poison, they are the ones whose children are being born deformed or die from drinking toxic water, they are the ones who protected your "Homeland" too.

Anytime someone comes on an article of mine (and there are still not that many) and starts in with this RACIST garbage will see me attack it openly.

There is no time for such GARBAGE.

The signs of rot are everywhere if you but care to look.  Take off your ridiculous badges of "honor" - unless you think seven generations ahead there is no honor to it and no acceptance of RESPONSIBILITY.

by ladybroadoak (38 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 390 comments) on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 3:48:16 PM
 

ok then tell me this...

why did they use the states secrets gag on her and continue to do so?

This women literally cannot tell you her own birthdate under the gag order. 

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 5:15:23 PM
 

THANK YOU!

It's interesting that this discussion on attacking woman activists just occurredon Commondreams, but no one seems to GET THE SENSE OF IT, and see how widespread it actually is.

I've already had death threats, and you know, when I tell the males who I post on about them, I get IGNORED. So pretty much I operate as a Lone Ranger these days as I will not put up with it.

NO HONEST PERSON MUST BE SCAPEGOATED.

That includes me.

To be honest, I have so little time between writing and posting and keeping my allies updated that I don't have time for another newsgroup, but I sure would like you on my mailing list - as I send around some stuff that I do not post on OpEd News for those I TRUST (and there are a few including some Good Guys)

I got slugged yesterday by an OpEd member about my slowloading blog and told to go get a professional redesign my blog - from someone who reads me being PLAGARIZED day after day after day. No offer of help, just SLUGGING. I don't have time to answer that kind of c-r-a-p as I know, more than most what is at stake here. If you follow what I write you will see I am 100% CONSISTENT, which is more than you can say for liberals who dress up as "progressive"

We are ALL UNDER THE GUN, many of us are doing the very best we can - I know I am and I take what I do extremely seriously. Every other NDN activist blog in TO has been taken down and OF COURSE I am paranoid and have panic attacks that they'll take mine down too, as so many radio and cable TV shows use it for their "research" and don't pay me on thin dime nor support me in anyway.

You shoulda seen them scrambling when I figured out the Filipino money plot in the Gulf standoff that BuZh used just before going to Isreal!! But they don't sit down and make sure something gets done about real oversight of Cheney and the intel community - ah, there's a DIFFERENCE.

Sibel's for real - that's WHY she started the Whistleblowers assn. I suggest people go have a look at what's she's posted on there - and pay attention to what the ITALIANS are saying about her TRUTH - they certainly believe her.

And thanks for the tip o the hat. Somedays I really need that.

by ladybroadoak (38 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 390 comments) on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 5:29:09 PM
 

Legalize Nuke sales to Turkey

Maybe Congress authorized the nuke sales that Bush requested after Sibels story came out?   The timing coming 2 weeks after Sibels interview lends some credibility to what she is saying. 

But it is also likely the nuclear deal is just an effort to buy out Turkey and prevent them from going along with the 3.5 billion gas project in Iran which would at some point be able to deliver gas to Europe via Turkey.    This is not what we want, since we want to isolate Iran, and are pushing the Nabucco gas project to get gas from the Caspian Region and Central Asia to Europe via Turkey.

This is  competing with the Russian South Stream project bringing gas to the EU from Siberia via Serbia, since we want Europe to reduce it's reliance on Russian gas to avoid disruption in the coming war with Russia, Cold or Hot.   Thats why Kosovo is important since our largest base is there, and once they become members of the EU,  more Nato forces can be deployed.

Turkey, despite being a close friend of Israel has been giving Israel a hard time of it over Gaza, and Israel is not too happy about it.   The AKP  Islamist party is in power and making efforts to change the constitution. Turkeys government and military have been mainly secular in the past, and the military has a history of intervening to maintain this.  Israel might like to like to see a coup. 

 And of course the problems with the Kurds in Iraq, and Turkeys government has given the military a bone there, and the Kurds in Iraq are not happy about this, so this needs to be discussed.

We could also be trying to get their support in case we decide to do Iran  before the end of the year.

So they have a lot to talk about.

by pft (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 466 comments) on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 2:25:36 AM
 

You need your head examined ..

and that's all I have to say about THAT.

If you can't figure out that not one reputable scientist endorses nukes, then you obviously live in that imperial bubble called DELUSION.

by ladybroadoak (38 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 390 comments) on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 8:02:57 AM
 

BBC Reported Story...

so verification was done on story.

We as a nation should be scared to death.  A facton of this Government are Aldolph's reborn seeking world domination and the Master RACE, THEM.

Turkey needs nukes like I need America needs new debt.  THE only reason to give Turkey nukes is to have them us them on Iran or detonate one to justify invasion.

We need to get this this total madman and his blonde haired crowd out of office NOW!

by Michael Morris (18 articles, 0 quicklinks, 15 diaries, 301 comments) on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 6:47:40 AM
 

Thank you.

I thank you, my children thank, a millions of Iranian children thank you too.

 I just find it GROTESQUE, that in 2007, with millions of people now irriadated from depleted uranium, millions dead from irriadated water, uranium miners dead - and all the wisdom of native elders who warned people about digging up that poison, that ANYONE sane could be pro nookler anything.

Yes, the Sibel story is spreading at last -- so there must be some truth to it, eh?  Someone has been spreading nukes ..  so who is, and what's the payoff?  People who like to see mutants breed?

Right now the entire world faces a grave risk with that spy satellite coming down. Oh, they said it would stay up there 500 years. But you know what?  It did not - it didn't even last two years. 

It's loaded with hydrazene and barrillium - and the US doesn't want anyone to know because they are afraid people will find out what these elements actually do to people.

I have no idea who the genius was that "invented" du weapons, but that may be the biggest CRIME ever committed and yet they proliferate. The medical reports on their use are just horrendous.  The real statistics on Chernobyl damage is covered up.  No money is being spent on reseaching the terrible, terrible damage that nuclear energy causes to the human body.

Just last week, when digging for some information about Sibel, I stumbled on a document - hidden away -- in the Department of ENERGY ???  Now what was it doing THERE?  It was dated 1964 and was signed off by General Electric and a man named Porter Gross .. I just could not believe my eyes. The effects of nukes was well documented. Why is this information hidden? Why is it DENIED?  

There is a great divide in the world - those who want peace and a life without poisons and those who DO NOT.

 If given the information, and people are exposed to all the CRIMES that have been committed promoting this human depravity - -then people will sit up and DO something.

The fact that now, it is right in people's backyards so to speak with the satellite - well, I think some fundamental change in attitude and action is going to take place.

There is high probability that martial law will be declared in the areas where the debris is going to fall - best information is from Portland Oregon to Kamloops, BC  - just precisely where the martial law exercises took place in the fall.  NOW WE KNOW WHY. This satellite thang has been going on since military contracts were issued to "cover the contingency" well over a year ago.  I bothered to find out just who got them by backtracking information in the yellow pages in Hilo Hawaii, believe it or not.  For this entire year, the US government officials who have TOP SECRET clearances have known about this coming and said not one peep.  How can we trust people like that????

I know for fact that the news is leaking out, as people are defying their security clearances and telling their loved ones to GET THE HELL OUT and DON"T GO THERE.

Well, the whole world is like that now.  The Japanese had well covered up nuclear seepage after the big earthquake, way minimized by the press. And of course on updates in the MSM.  

What Sibel is trying to do is the RIGHT THING, I am sure he has suffered long enough, knows the score and finally put her life at risk knowing it was worth it.

 Back to the point of the article - what in heaven's name are top level officials doing sitting out the horror to come very soon, by globe trotting out of the danger zones? Doesn't that tell anyone anything?  BuZh is in Africa, these guys are in Turkey, Robert Gates is on the way to Australia .. 

and we, we just sit here and wait, wait for a nuclear holocaust which is right at our doorstep .. how much of the nuclear sabar rattling that was done to IRAN was really just a way to prepare us stooges for what is happening??

 I ask you.

I got my real warnings on 4 February as  a Toronto man spotted it falling with his naked eye .. that story ran in the NYT's and the Chinese "caught on".

This is NO WAY for the nuke weilding US to do commerce with any nation - to just leave disaster to the INSANE BUZH IDEOLOGY.

by ladybroadoak (38 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 390 comments) on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 8:25:51 AM
 

What in the hell ...

is Mukasey doing in Turkey? Why is a AG of the United States meddling in foreign affairs? Has all the crime in the United States been cleaned up that he can now spend time globe trotting helping the State Dept. do their job?

Mukasey is one of the key criminals in planning and the cover-up of 9/11 and his trip to Turkey should be viewed as a prelude to another "false flag" attack being planned. I have no evidence of this, just a suspicion. I can think of no other reason for an Attorney General to be working in foriegn policy if it isn't to set us up again.

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 1436 comments) on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 8:16:18 AM
 

It could be that all the criminals have skipped town

By the time people know what is involved in this satellite caper, it is a sure bet there will at long last be impeachment, there simply has to be an investigation.

 All of them know that indictments are coming - they've BEEN TOLD.

Do you have any idea of how many people are ticked off with this administration?  Lawyers, career military men who all have been taught international law (JAGs in particular) - I mean it's just a juggernaut of people now that they will not be able to escape.  Only diKators and other autocrats (like Stephen Harper) will have anything to do with this whole regime anymore!!

Karl Rove got a loud welcome here in Canada and I think that they know they can't control the crowds the way they once did. They can run to Turkey to feel safe for a bit, but the days of feeling safe are over for them. WAY over.

by ladybroadoak (38 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 390 comments) on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 8:41:38 AM