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Anthrax-The biggest smoking gun of all?

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The anthrax came from The US Military Industrial complex, and it wasn't stolen then worked up in a former employees little lab. "For nearly a decade, U.S. Army scientists at Dugway Proving Ground in Utah have made small quantities of weapons-grade anthrax that is virtually identical to the powdery spores used in the mail attacks that have killed five people, government sources say. Dugway's production of weapons-grade anthrax, which has never before been publicly revealed, is apparently the first by the U.S. government since President Richard M. Nixon ordered the U.S. offensive biowarfare program closed in 1969. Scientists estimate that the letter sent to Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle originally contained about 2 grams of anthrax, about one-sixteenth of an ounce, or the weight of a dime. But its extraordinary concentration - in the range of 1 trillion spores per gram - meant that the letter could have contained 200 million times the average dose necessary to kill a person.

Dugway's weapons-grade anthrax has been milled to achieve a similar concentration, according to one person familiar with the program.The concentration exceeds that of weapons anthrax produced by the old U.S. offensive program or the Soviet biowarfare program, according to Dr. Richard O. Spertzel, who worked at Detrick for 18 years and later served as a United Nations bioweapons inspector in Iraq". "The DNA sequence of the anthrax sent through the US mail in 2001 has been revealed and confirms suspicions that the bacteria originally came from a US military laboratory.”

So who are the terrorists that launched an attack using WMD, a week after 9/11? The FBI knows. "The US army has been producing anthrax in a powdered form suitable for use as a weapon, it was discovered during the FBI's investigation of the spate of letters containing the deadly spores. But the army denied yesterday that the strain it had developed was the one that has so far caused five deaths. Officers at the army's Dugway proving ground in Utah confirmed in a statement that scientists there had been turning wet anthrax into a powdered form". It's a proven fact the US Government is the source and is a proven fact that the US Government makes powdered weaponized anthrax. "It is the first time the army has acknowledged that it has been producing anthrax powder. Officers said that the powdered form was produced for testing defenses against the spores in the event of a biological warfare attack. The statement said that anthrax had also been developed in aerosol form. Dugway, which is assisting the FBI in its investigation, is the US army's main testing station and has been able to produce the powdered form of anthrax since 1992".

Isn't it reassuring that the only known source of making the type of anthrax that was used, is assisting the FBI in it's investigation of finding the source of the anthrax? "At first the anthrax letters were linked to the events of September 11, and Iraq was named as a possible suspect, but now the FBI believe that it is more likely to be an American who is responsible. 



The FBI said that no individual associated with Dugway was being investigated.” Of course not! If the FBI was to solve this case, it would prove to the world that the US violates bioweapons treaties and prove to its citizens that they live under a terrorist state.

Well, now the FBI in a new report wants you to believe that this was just ordinary ol' anthrax that could have come from anywhere. This is a real quote from this news report "It is believed to have been a common anthrax strain and had not been processed to make it more deadly. Even so, the anthrax was still deadly." It wasn't processed to be deadly but was anyway? Remember postal workers died just from handling the equipment these letters ran through. "According to a new report, the 2001 attacks which killed five people and made 17 humans ill, used common anthrax, not military grade anthrax. As it was thought at the time that military grade anthrax was used" This is a blatant and obvious lie, but that’s what guilty people do, they lie. The FBI has also refused to brief members of congress on their phony investigation. Senator Chuck Grassley had this to say in a letter to the FBI. "We're seeing more and more agencies thwart the Constitutional responsibility of Congress. Unfortunately, the FBI’s refusal to provide briefings to Congress following the 2001 anthrax attacks appears to be the rule rather than the exception," Grassley said. "In one of the most important terrorism investigations ever undertaken by the FBI, it is unbelievable to me that members of Congress, some who were targets of the anthrax attacks, haven’t been briefed for years." Congressman Rush Holt added this, "The FBI's refusal to brief Congress on this matter is unprecedented and inexcusable," said Rep. Holt. "The anthrax attacks harmed the heath and livelihoods of my constituents and paralyzed the government and national commerce. All Americans deserve to know why this five-year investigation has made so little progress." 33 members of congress signed a letter addressed to former Attorney General Gonzalez demanding to know what is going on with the investigation.

But our dictator doesn't think that's a good idea. And he's a smart guy; after all, he seemed to know that there might be an anthrax attack when 9/11 happened, since he and the Whitehouse staff starting taking cipro, the anthrax antidote on 9/11, 7 days before the first anthrax letter was mailed. "The FBI’s investigation seems to have dead-ended, and frankly, that is not very reassuring given their performance with the September 11th hijackers," stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. "One doesn’t simply start taking a powerful antibiotic for no good reason. The American people are entitled to know what the White House staffers knew nine months ago, " he added. {Q}

Which brings up the point I started with. If the US Government is behind the Anthrax attacks, and from the evidence, it is obvious. Then 9/11 was indeed an inside job. No one punished or even reprimanded, but instead promoted for their "failures,” on 9/11 and no arrests from the anthrax attacks that immediately followed. This is just one of the many smoking guns lying around.
 
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A28334-2002Oct27?language=printer
 
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http://911review.org/Wget/www.fas.org/bwc/news/anthraxreport.htm
 
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http://edition.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/conditions/10/16/anthrax.evidence/
 
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http://media.www.gwhatchet.com/media/storage/paper332/news/2
001/09/10/UWireDcBureau/Anthrax.Keeps.Postal.Workers.On.Edge-135116.shtml
 
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http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-492694.html
 
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http://www.nov55.com/athr.html
 
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?
 
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http://www.nti.org/e_research/e3_2a.html
 
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http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0824/p11s3-coop.html
 
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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E02E1D71639F937A3575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
 
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http://www.fas.org/bwc/news/bhrtest010605.htm
 
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http://www.ph.ucla.edu/EPI/bioter/anthraxmatchesarmyspores.html
 
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http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2265
 
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http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/12-14-2001-8632.asp
 
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http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/52662.php
 
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http://grassley.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.View&PressRelease_id=952348ef-d946-4b8a-aa56-22e7f4f7c51f
 
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http://www.judicialwatch.org/1967.shtml
 
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http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/bwc/text/execordr.htm
 

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This is, indeed,

a very important story.

See http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_george_w_071217_remember_the_anthrax.htm for more information.

by George Washington (188 articles, 27 quicklinks, 189 diaries, 219 comments [17 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 7, 2008 at 1:17:51 PM

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two years ago

Keep at it, keep at it, keep at it. That's the only thing which will work. Here's a posivite thought. Pieces like this would have been unthinkable even two years ago. I keep reminding myself what our country was like just two years ago (not to mention five) and I always feel better.

Thanks, Bill 

by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 7, 2008 at 3:21:09 PM

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anthrax

I suppose the government could be involved because if they wanted to find out did this hideous act they could have assigned the crack F.B.I. agents who solved the identity of the 9-11 hijackers in just 24 hours. After all they must have needed a case to work on after that stunning display of investigative skills just the week before.

by tjb (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 255 comments [9 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 7, 2008 at 3:29:04 PM

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Reply: Notable difference

tjb, I won't argue with you, but let's keep in mind one vital difference between the two attacks. The 9/11 hijackers made no effort to hide their identities -- understandable, since they were on a suicide mission. Hence, while I'm sure the FBI did some impressive work in investigating the 9/11 attack after the fact, I doubt that establishing who was directly responsible required all that much ingenious detective work. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I'm aware, the hijackers did use their real names when they purchased their tickets, didn't they?)

The anthrax attacker, on the other hand, intended to stay alive, and free. Indeed, that was intrinsic to his terrorism -- to say, "Hey, I'm (or we're) still out here, ready to strike again". Consequently, he/they went to some pains to keep from being identified.

by David Rosenblatt (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Monday, Jan 7, 2008 at 11:23:33 PM

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Reply: hijackers - patsies -

"The 9/11 hijackers made no effort to hide their identities -- understandable, since they were on a suicide mission."

The 9/11 hijackers were patsies. IF you were using them to play a role in the false flag psyop of 9/11 wouldn't You make sure their names were well known?" 

by richard (0 articles, 5 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 1359 comments [400 recommended, 8 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 8, 2008 at 9:30:32 AM

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Why haven't perps of anthrax attack ever been apprehended?

Maybe the FBI solved the 9/11 hijacking case so quickly is because it wished to do so. The FBI had no intention of allowing all the facts concerning the anthrax killings come to light as it got knowledgeable scientists in the field to sign statements they would not discuss the case in public. Those behind the calloused anthrax attacks on the U.S. Postal Service, the media, and the U.S. Congress are capable of anything, including a war of aggression.  Excellent article; many thanks.

 

Sherwood Ross

Miami, Florida

by Sherwood Ross (222 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 155 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 7, 2008 at 4:50:32 PM

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Reply: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED

100% AGREED

by RICHARD SHADE (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 460 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 8, 2008 at 2:24:38 AM

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anthrax

In the future, keep in mind that there are homeopathic remedies for anthrax, and if you know that, you won't be terrorized by another anthrax scare...homeopathics works on the principle of the hair of the dog that bit you...so ask for anthrax at your local or mexican homeopathic pharmacy...be prepared, and peace of mind will be your companion.

by karmacounselor (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 106 comments [7 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 7, 2008 at 6:18:24 PM

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Reply: Good information

This is good preventative information, thank you!

by Barbara Peterson (73 articles, 109 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 541 comments [98 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 7, 2008 at 7:27:53 PM

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All the usual suspects ...

Who in the background had access to industrial 

research grade anthrax? 

None other than Jerome Hauer

 

and more

by Joann (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 45 comments) on Monday, Jan 7, 2008 at 10:37:24 PM

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On the anthrax attacks

"Pieces like this would have been unthinkable even two years ago."

 I wrote my own contribution on the investigation into the anthrax attacks in  June 2003:

http://www.yirmeyahureview.com/articles/2003/fbi_anthrax_investigation.htm

by Jeremy R. Hammond (42 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 86 comments) on Monday, Jan 7, 2008 at 11:04:47 PM

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Note

"The United States, the former Soviet Union and Iraq are the only three nations known to have developed the kind of additives that enable anthrax spores to remain suspended in the air, making them more easily inhaled and therefore more deadly, experts said yesterday".

That is incorrect. Iraq never weaponized powdered anthrax. Iraq's anthrax was a toxic sludge. They did experiment with drying anthrax, but they used a simulant in their experiments and there's no evidence they ever were able to do so with anthrax itself.

http://www.yirmeyahureview.com/articles/2006/iraq_anthrax.htm

by Jeremy R. Hammond (42 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 86 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 8, 2008 at 5:49:41 AM

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Reply: More Misinformation.

Sorry buddy, have to disagree with you there, Iraq has NEVER developed Anthrax, so please, stop spreading misinformation.

If you really wish to find the source of this Anthrax, try looking under your own beds, cause that folks is where the stuff came from,(I don't mean that literly ) further, there is abundant evidance to verify and establish the Anthrax that Saddam did lay his hands on, was sold and supplied willingly by the U.S. Govt.

The issue on the Anthrax attack on members of Congress..... OMG, I simply cannot believe, how blind Americans are,(or choose to be blind) pray tell,  for what reason do you all think Congress is so useless and complicite in the actions of your Govt, why on earth do you all think Congress cowtows to this Administration in it's every demand ?

Simple, they are scared witless from the EXAMPLE given to them via the Anthrax attack, they fear for their lives and their loved ones, because it has very clearly demonstrated to them, what will happen to them all, should they prove intransigent to the Administrations plans.

And you know what, I firmly believe, there are many Americans who fall into this category, they have identified to themselves the true culprits and are just as terrorised as their members of Congress, very, very few have the courage to come out and say so,it would appear are even too afraid to even discuss such matters anywhere or with anyone, for fear of what the repercussions may be, there are many examples of Whistleblowers who have had their futures destroyed simply because they stood their ground and spoke out. People with immense courage, though pointless if not supported by their fellow citizens.

The majority of Americans can see what's been done to these people,(of course the reason it's been done is to provide examples of what will happen to them as well, should they be foolish enough to follow suit, Sibel Edmonds/Plamgate affair, are classic examples) so they all stick their heads in the sand and pretend it's not happening and the whole subject becomes taboo.

The questions Americans need to ask themselves, is why have they not persued the Anthrax attack ?

Why have they allowed it to disappear from everyday life ?

Why have the law enforcement agencies not persued the matter ?

Why have the survivors not persued the matter ?

When they find the answer to that, they'll also find the answer what to do about it. Trouble is, is there anyone in the U.S. who has the COURAGE to deal with it ? 

For what it's worth, IMHO there's not a one.

by Eddy Schmid (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 234 comments [17 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 8, 2008 at 7:53:49 AM

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Reply: Don't disagree

The only way I would know if Iraq developed anthrax is by research and what experts say. In a powdered form, I agree with you and as I state in the article......"To use anthrax as a weapon, it must be converted to a powder, which can be inhaled. Only the US and Russian militaries have succeeded in doing that. Even Iraq used anthrax in liquid form, which is totally ineffective"

by jimd3100 (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 33 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 8, 2008 at 10:14:21 AM

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Reply: What's Up?

What explains the "character" of all these people?  The entire lot of them, scared shitless for themselves and their families, yet they get up and go to work every day in abject fear, "working for their constituencies and a better world?", or simply shut down their ideals and walk in lock-step?  Why wouldn't they just quit?  Why wouldn't they collude with each other to bring about their own freedom from oppression and blackmail? 

I am not so sure they are all frightened, manipulated "do-gooders"...  It seems to me this cross-section of "people's representatives" are content to "play the game" and collect the perks.  That's what bothers me. 

Complacent?  Complicit?  What's up?

by boomerang (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 556 comments [215 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 8, 2008 at 11:04:21 AM

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Reply: I don't disagree with you

As I said in the article......."To use anthrax as a weapon, it must be converted to a powder, which can be inhaled. Only the US and Russian militaries have succeeded in doing that. Even Iraq used anthrax in liquid form, which is totally ineffective"  

BTW I just read your article of 2003 and think you did a great job. I think it's digusting the way the media have allowed this story to disappear, and is a major reason I wrote this up.

by jimd3100 (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 33 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 8, 2008 at 10:17:33 AM

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Reply: was a reply to you...

This was a reply to you..............think the post got misplaced...

I don't disagree with you

As I said in the article......."To use anthrax as a weapon, it must be converted to a powder, which can be inhaled. Only the US and Russian militaries have succeeded in doing that. Even Iraq used anthrax in liquid form, which is totally ineffective"  

BTW I just read your article of 2003 and think you did a great job. I think it's digusting the way the media have allowed this story to disappear, and is a major reason I wrote this up.

 

by jimd3100 (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 15 comments) on Tuesday, January 8, 2008 at 10:17:33 AM

by jimd3100 (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 33 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 8, 2008 at 10:21:10 AM

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Reply: try again.....

For some reason my replies are ending up here..so the last replys were in reponse to .. JRHammond

by jimd3100 (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 33 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 8, 2008 at 10:23:48 AM

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There are so many "smoking guns", it's hard to choose...

Yes the whole anthrax affair, from the laughably incompetent effort to implicate Arabs (in a sense similar to the incompetently forged Niger uranium documents hoax, I might point out), to the laughably obvious complete stonewalling of the investigation - is very high on the list.

Also high on my list is the fact that there was no "legitimate" claim of responsibility for the attacks.

And of course the obvious controlled demolition of WTC7 and of course the fact that Israeli agents caught partying and driving a van with traces of explosives...and who subsequently failed lie detector tests...were simply let go...and of course the head Mossad agent on scene, Dom Suter, skips out to Israel in such a hurry as to leave half-eaten sandwiches and coffee on the table. (And let's face it, that kind of behavior clearly implies guilt, not merely some kind of lie-your-way-out-of-it foreknowledge).

And the list just goes on and on and on...

by Harold Smith (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 556 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 8, 2008 at 11:00:07 AM

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Thanks to author

Eddy Schmid,

You replied saying, "More Misinformation. Sorry buddy, have to disagree with you there, Iraq has NEVER developed Anthrax, so please, stop spreading misinformation."

That appeared to be a response to my post, but I have to assume that was in error and you were replying to the author, because my post made the same point.


jimd3100,

Thanks for your reply, and for reading my article. I enjoyed reading yours and it's good to see somebody keeping the issue alive.

by Jeremy R. Hammond (42 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 86 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 9, 2008 at 6:36:38 AM

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