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Recount - Is Dennis Kucinich walking into a trap?

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WHAT'S THE POINT OF A RECOUNT IF THE CANDIDATE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW...

1) The name of all companies that print ballots for New Hampshire elections.

2) The ballot ordering history for each location, especially those using computerized voting systems and the inventory records for the current contest.

3) The ballot chain of custody plan for each location and for the state of New Hampshire.

IMMEDIATE CONCERNS


- We don't have information on ballot inventory records.

- With ballots and recounts, it's all about blocking ballot substitution. To achieve substitution, you need extra ballots. If you get more ballots, someone might follow the money trail and ask you why you're sitting on 10,000 or so blank ballots. So you need some workarounds.

BALLOT CHAIN OF CUSTODY WAR STORIES

Patriot Richard Hayes Phillips, while writing his brilliant upcoming book "Witness to a Crime," uncovered evidence that an Ohio County took delivery on 10,000 off-the-books ballots in 2004.

Employees for the Diebold ballot printing plant slipped us financials showing that Diebold was printing 25% more ballots than ordered. This could be handy: If a governmental entity doesn't take official delivery on ballots, Plan B can sit at a print house somewhere, on private property and absent from either government bookkeeping or public records.

CONVICTED FELONS

The Diebold ballot printing plant at the time we got records on the overages, was being run by a convicted felon who had spent four years in prison on a narcotics trafficking charge. No, not New Hampshire's voting machine programming exec Ken Hajjar, who cut a plea deal in 1990 for his role in cocaine distribution. This was another convicted felon, John Elder, who ran the Diebold ballot printing plant; he's now an elections consultant.

We have so far been unable to learn whether New Hampshire has convicted felons printing their ballots; we've got a records request in on this. New Hampshire officials like to say "The state prints the ballots" but they sure aren't printed in Secretary of State Bill Gardner's office.

Frank S., one of the new breed of citizens jumping in to take back control of our elections, took the initiative on his own to help today by spending several hours trying to find the ballot printer in NH. It may be that convicted felons print the ballots: Frank turned up evidence that one state-paid printing vendor is NHCI - New Hampshire Correctional Industries, a prison-based printing outfit.

New Hampshire Correctional Industries is a job training program for inmates. After they get out of prison they have a skill! I'm not sure we want a bunch of ex-convicts running around in New Hampshire with ballot printing expertise, so I hope a different ballot printing vendor will show up.

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Oh, the irony by Peter Dearman on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 2:36:23 AM
Recount in NH by Hank on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 12:53:01 PM
I think this is overwrought by Dave Lindorff on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 4:41:50 PM
which ballots got sequestered, Dave? by Better World Order on Saturday, Jan 12, 2008 at 12:00:34 AM
Without Documented Chain of Custody, Recount is Pointless. by Better World Order on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 3:06:13 AM
I just did an optimistic link... by Daniel Geery on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 5:07:19 AM
Done by Kevin Gosztola on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 7:57:58 AM
Kevin - Do You Know if DK Ever See's by Eric on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 8:42:10 AM
Try, try again by John Sanchez Jr. on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 8:52:37 AM
You are correct, I tried that route once by Eric on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 9:16:13 AM
Dennis & the Action Center by Kevin Gosztola on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 9:17:32 AM
ReCount by gerard styles on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 7:26:00 AM
Kucinich has no fear by john riggs on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:02:26 AM
PERHAPS by WML on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 12:43:22 PM
Here's a skeptical question on the alleged NH 'vote fraud' - by Richard Mynick on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:04:59 AM
Who would rig the elections? by Charlie L on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:27:37 AM
IMO, the Repubs will have an easy time with either HRC or O by Richard Mynick on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:45:32 AM
I'm just really not convinced about any of this either... by Steven Leser on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 11:57:50 PM
That makes sense. by Peter Dearman on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 11:51:15 AM
WHO WOULD RIG THE ELECTIONS by RICHARD SHADE on Saturday, Jan 12, 2008 at 3:50:00 AM
Why GOP would rig it for Hillary by sjm30741 on Saturday, Jan 12, 2008 at 4:10:38 PM
A more sinister possibility by Steve Moyer on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:37:15 PM
It is a pleasure by mhenriday on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:09:51 AM
The "elections" are for entertainment only. by waldopaper on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:56:53 AM
Who Can Do This? by Jami on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 12:01:28 PM
Cardboard boxes & duct tape by Michael Richardson on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:36:01 AM
Grannie Warriors for Ron Paul by Jeanette Doney on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 11:49:19 AM
Grannie Warriors..... by Jami on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 12:08:21 PM
$26,K and counting by Jeanette Doney on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 4:48:28 PM
walking into a trap?" by Michael Shaw on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 11:58:13 AM
Voting in 21st Century America by Lord Stirling on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 1:02:25 PM
VOTING IN 21ST CENTURY by RICHARD SHADE on Saturday, Jan 12, 2008 at 6:38:18 AM
THOSE TERRIBLE FELONS by WML on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 1:03:56 PM
Hey Rich M or whoever it might concern by john riggs on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 1:05:32 PM
i talked to a guy at the Kucinich campaign by Better World Order on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 2:28:47 PM
Why do we not get it by john riggs on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 3:58:47 PM
This makes no sense at all, sorry. by Steven Leser on Saturday, Jan 12, 2008 at 3:01:16 PM
ITS THE TEAM by RICHARD SHADE on Sunday, Jan 13, 2008 at 2:50:36 AM
I love this thread by coyote on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 9:43:04 PM
Okay, so you don't vote, does that absolve you of by Brett Paatsch on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:33:09 PM
What about electronic voting? by Steve Moyer on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:46:28 PM
We NEED voter affidavits by tiffane on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 1:10:04 PM