FRAN TOWNSEND, NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Yes. Absolutely. I think it's true both in China and in Russia. And by the way, he doesn't have to cooperate. They can -- they can do this without his even knowing it.
BLITZER: When you say that, because I've been told -- I've been to China. I went to North Korea. And security experts said to me, "Don't take your laptop. Don't take -- don't take anything, because within a few minutes if the Chinese want it or if the North Koreans, even for that matter, want it, they can get it pretty quickly with or without your knowledge."
Do you buy that, Fran?
TOWNSEND: Absolutely, Wolf. The only thing he might have done was to keep it on a thumb drive, which will make it a little bit more difficult for them to get access to it.