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Respecting Hard Evidence: 9/11, Pearl Harbor, JFK, and Edward Snowden

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-          We shouldn't buy any further wars unless their justification transcends the level represented in that film and ridiculed as merely "conspiratorial" by our government and pundits.

-          That is, evidence should go beyond the detail offered in Mazzucco's five-hour documentary.

-          Moreover, any reasoning legitimating future wars should evoke comparisons with and questions about 9/11, the level evidence there, and the reasons for ignoring its questions about the official story.

-          In effect, such demands would preclude said future wars. In fact, no war in recent memory has been based on anything like the evidence and reasoning marshaled in "9/11: The New Pearl Harbor."

-          Even more concretely, we should ask John McCain about the basis for his statement about Edward Snowden and then judge the weight of his evidence by comparing it with that offered in Mazzucco's film.

      Do you see what I mean? What do you think?      

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Mike Rivage-Seul is a liberation theologian and former Roman Catholic priest. Recently retired, he taught at Berea College in Kentucky for 36 years where he directed Berea's Peace and Social Justice Studies Program.Mike blogs (more...)
 

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"Mr. President, would you say that your secret evi... by Mike Rivage-Seul on Tuesday, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:45:40 PM
We have been and still are being dragged to the ed... by intotheabyss on Tuesday, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:20:32 PM
I agree. Last Christmas I gave each member of my f... by Mike Rivage-Seul on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:30:36 AM
Great book and great idea for Christmas gifts Mike... by takebackourcountry on Thursday, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:50:04 PM
You ask for what I think, and here it is: Pearl Ha... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:36:55 PM
Knowing all the above, Washington made sure that, ... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:55:53 PM
Continued from comment upstream -To some limited e... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:33:03 PM
I apologize for writing such long comments. I know... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:02:07 PM
Apparently an entire squadron of unarmed fighters ... by Peter Duveen on Tuesday, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:30:08 PM
December 7 surprise, September 11 surprise? - not ... by Lance Ciepiela on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:03:23 AM
That's an interesting video and Barbara Honegger i... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:40:43 PM
Here's from wikipedia article on Stennitt's claims... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:45:33 PM
Their PNAC Master Plan spelled it out clearly - "a... by Lance Ciepiela on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:04:20 PM
Look, all I'm asking you to do is to understand th... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:32:08 AM
You're thinking of the B-17s that arrived on 7 Dec... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:54:07 PM
Before Pearl Harbor, the US was already on a milit... by Peter Duveen on Sunday, Nov 17, 2013 at 10:01:50 AM
Good points, Mr. Duveen! The Manhattan Project in ... by Charles Roll on Sunday, Nov 17, 2013 at 11:45:29 AM
The Establishment is not ready for a "Department o... by Peter Duveen on Sunday, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:27:58 PM
Respectfully, Charles, there seems to be a lot of ... by Mike Rivage-Seul on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:38:50 AM
Oh really! I'm the one who is mind-reading, not th... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:34:55 PM
Thanks, Charles. I did not mean to sound accusator... by Mike Rivage-Seul on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:59:44 PM
APOLOGYI haven't done a good job here. I have been... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:21:06 AM
Briefly noted here (about my comments above includ... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:28:51 AM
As to how Washington's orders to avoid "disclosing... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:33:31 AM
It doesn't appear that Gen. Short busied himself a... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:44:24 AM
As for the "anti-FDR and anti-New Deal propaganda ... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:46:06 AM
Charles,Re- Pearl Harbor: See Reality, Truth and E... by Blaze Gold on Tuesday, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:44:22 PM
Googled your Temple Hodge reference 'Reality, Trut... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:27:36 PM
Given that I have not studied Pearl Harbor to the ... by Blaze Gold on Tuesday, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:14:54 PM
The author is T.H.Meyer, a Swiss publisher. From t... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:17:07 AM
Michael Ruppert is another story. I remember him, ... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:18:03 AM
Last complete paragraph of my response to Blaze Go... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:35:01 AM
Theater commanders later complained that Washingto... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:41:45 AM
In my last full paragraph, in comment above -I sho... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:58:56 AM
The use of the term "conspiracy" to discredit anal... by Mike Rivage-Seul on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:46:08 AM
"But when critics of government allege "conspiracy... by Gary Williams on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:43:19 PM
Dear Charles, I'll be so interested to read your c... by Mike Rivage-Seul on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:33:55 AM
What research have you done seeking to either conf... by Gary Williams on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:47:41 PM
Dear Gary, I'm not assuming Mazzucco's facts are c... by Mike Rivage-Seul on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:07:01 PM
Well, I viewed it this evening. My view about FDR ... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:47:56 PM
Sorry to have taken so long.My take on the work by... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:36:38 AM
CONTINUINGIt's easy to state some specious premise... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:51:12 AM
"Washington knew almost everything" is an overshoo... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:47:50 PM
Thanks for this important article Mike. I did not ... by takebackourcountry on Thursday, Nov 14, 2013 at 5:46:25 PM
Thanks, Takeback. Did you yet have the chance to v... by Mike Rivage-Seul on Thursday, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:28:51 PM
I've yet to watch the film Mike. My 80 year old... by takebackourcountry on Thursday, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:27:38 PM
Hussah! Vets for Peace! Great crowd there!BTW: I h... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:53:07 PM
I see by your interaction with others here that yo... by Gary Williams on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:10:14 AM
Thanks so much, Gary. I have a different take on D... by Mike Rivage-Seul on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:50:59 PM
My take on David Ray Griffin is quite different... by takebackourcountry on Saturday, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:17:15 PM
As educational psychologist Daniel Willingham has ... by Charles Roll on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:47:35 PM
Building toward a simple explanation for complex h... by Charles Roll on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:40:24 PM
I trust readers will understand that when I make s... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:03:38 PM
Some may not understand my use of the term 'grand ... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:25:16 PM
A huge mistake that people often make is thinking ... by Charles Roll on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:44:02 PM
With Gary Williams, Mike Rivage-Seul has discussed... by Charles Roll on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:02:44 PM
Mazzucco Point 1. Roosevelt wanted war, and he wan... by Charles Roll on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:32:08 PM
NOTE on methodology -I have viewed the Mazzucco fi... by Charles Roll on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:26:10 PM
BTW: You'd think that somewhere in discussions of ... by Charles Roll on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:58:22 PM
Correction -Sentence asking, "And, in general, is ... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:16:25 AM
Mazzucco Point #2. Unfounded allegations of anti-R... by Charles Roll on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:08:56 PM
Continuing from comment, above -So, okay, let's sa... by Charles Roll on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:31:59 PM
Dear Charles: Thanks so much for your detailed and... by Mike Rivage-Seul on Friday, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:02:48 PM
Mike,The main point that I am making is that my vi... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:04:03 AM
Mazzucco's Point #3.  Without allowing his au... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:28:48 PM
Numerous sources are available to verify this acco... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:36:48 PM
Explanation #1 (Common-sense 'snafu' explanation):... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:07:15 PM
I will be publishing here or somewhere, somehow, a... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:05:24 AM