I simply can't understand the nature of the bubble Pelosi must live in, not to have any idea how people feel about the miserable job she has done as the first female Speaker. When she was sworn in, I remember the hopeful, joyful mood of the whole country. Everyone thought that because Democrats had been given a clear mandate for getting out of Iraq and impeachment that we were finally on track to restoring law to its rightful place as King.

She has been one of the biggest disappointments for Progressives in the history of the nation. It didn't have to be this way.

by JC Garrett (40 articles, 65 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 604 comments [10 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:24:33 AM

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that once in power, they become boring, complacent and  unidealistic. In other words.......old, fat and lazy (wealthy)

by Susan Nelsen (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 287 comments) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:23:02 AM

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Here's how it works, if you weren't compromised before you obtained office you are immediately after you do obtain it.

At first you're  made an offer of money - lots and lots of money. If that doesn't work they bring out your records and if they have found anything they can use to blackmail you they do, and if that doesn't work, they'll make something up and frame you.

If none of the above works there's the last two: they bring you into a room, show you the extent of their corrupt empire, the crimes they've committed and gotten away with, the control they have over everything and tell you if you do not go along you and your family will wind-up like the Kenndy's or Wellstone.

Know this, unless we the people can equal those threats we'll always be at the mercy of sociopath murders that have a strangle-hold on everything that matters.

It won't end until it falls, and fall it will, and if anything is left after the fact it will be hard pressed to live in the toxic wasteland we'd leave behind.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:07:15 PM

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You are, of course, absolutely right about the proverbial Kool-Aid Washington Bubble Bobbleheads drink. It's been especially bad since PROJECT PAPERCLIP immunized so many scientists working for the enemy in WWII and brought them here to continue their work (and it wasn't just rocket scientists). Washington's Old Boyz Network also tends to let criminals get away with murder, like the grandfather of the current resident of the White House, who not only never faced a jury of his peers for the treason he and his colleagues committed, but went on to become a senator! (The heartache we might've avoided if that family had never been given any political quarter. Corruption would still exist, but there would be no School of the Americas, no Iran-Contra, no SERE, no Rwandan genocide, no Darfur genocide, no unrest in Somalia, no Mugabe, and probably a more appropriate relationship with the Saudis, and that doesn't even count the crimes of the current crop.)

Which is why I believe that we have two jobs to reclaim our Constitution. First, shutter K Street. Second, use the Jefferson rules to call the Constitutional Convention all 50 states have requested 567 times in the last decade, each of which is REQUIRED a hearing in the House, but have been ignored (kind of like the way our instructions in Nov. 06 were thrown in our face in the worst act of insubordination in our history). This makes Congress criminally subordinate.

A Constitutional Convention should be designed to send Congress home to face special elections (and the Convention should propose strict rules for campaigning and voting as the days of "doing one's duty on his honor" are well behind us). Then we amend the Constitution to allow citizens better provision for "rebooting" their government when it fails, which would ALWAYS entail sending Congress home to face special elections, and would ALWAYS require that the current leadership step down and remain ineligible for leadership positions above committee chairs in the future. (We can't keep the people of their districts from electing them, but we can damn well start having a say in who gets to be a leader and who doesn't, as the leaders have an impact on the entire nation, not just their constituents.)

And then we enforce these rules EVERY time Congress fails to follows Madison's rules for their conduct. If they fail to impeach for high crimes, they go home. If they fail to abide by campaign finance regulations as a body, they go home. If they fail to ratify an election properly or fail to advise and consent properly (i.e., they rubberstamp administration nominees), they go home. And so on. And they keep a balanced budget, which means making the needs of each department proportional with total revenue. (And corporations would be contributing a WHOLE lot more revenue, no more tax breaks if they are bigger than 250 employees.) Which would finally adjust the budget to put DOD in its place. This business of treating the budget as everything besides DOD and making DOD's slice of the pie bigger than 50 percent (with the VA a separate slice that is about 1/10th the size of DOD) MUST end. We can cut DOD in half and still have the best military in the world (after all, our military is about as tired and worn out as it can be, our armed forces aren't paid nearly enough, and this on a budget that takes over 50 percent of our total budget, so it stands to reason the converse is true: We can do a better job of managing a more nimble military.  It means that the military would be required to be efficient. Gee, what a concept. (I used to handle contracts and audits with DOD, so I'm pretty familiar with this issue. And the inefficiencies.)

Oh, and no more EOs beyond immediate policies and procedures for the executive branch, and ABSOLUTELY no extra-legislative activity, be it memos, "signing statements," etc.

And we need to consider the two-year terms of Representatives. I appreciate the framers did this to make the House more responsive to the People, but this was before corporations usurped our place at the table and made campaign contributions the carrot and stick Reps follow at election time. Take away that source of campaign money and set regs for campaigns that require disclosure of voting records (without us having to do the research ourselves) and forbidding TV ads (TV exposure being limited to appearances that require substantive discussion), enforce the Federal Acquisition Regs, shutting off pork, and enshrining a law to allow the People to send their government home when it fails them are the kinds of things that MUST be done to rescue Congress from this Ring of the Inferno they currently inhabit. And, while we're at it, it wouldn't hurt to create a law to make it a Federal felony for a public official to use profanity against the Constitution, applicable to ALL public officials, including Members of Congress, the Judiciary, and the Executive branch. It would be our one exception to the First Amendment, and it would be immediately enforceable, i.e., the Secret Service, if they heard such a thing again, would be mandated to haul the perpetrator to jail IMMEDIATELY for processing and arraignment. Maybe that's a bit much, but I'll be DAMNED if another president should be allowed to refer to our Constitution as a "GD piece of paper." Mr. 92 IQ who can't even manage the simplist matters of state has no business saying such a thing under any circumstances, but anyone who occupies that office should be put on notice as well.

That's your threat. And we make it possible for the next generation to revise further, based upon changing conditions over time. After all, impeachment was REQUIRED specifically to stop the kind of criminality we've suffered the last seven years, and even that hasn't worked. Obviously, the guillotine of impeachment is worthless if Congress won't use it, so we create a guillotine over Congress. (Not literally, of course, but a real threat to their power, because we have to accept that they are power addicts who do not respond to anything other than threats that they will lose their power.)

Let's not forget that the Constitution was written by our earliest members of Congress, who were not nearly the power addicts we have now, and had no intention of letting the country be hijacked by demonic power addicts when we just fought a war to sever ourselves from demonic power addicts. They didn't even want to create the position of president. They certainly could not foresee the power of the corporate state, a $10 Trillion debt, or the economic forces that now have China as our #1 creditor, all because of the license with which both Congress and the administration operate, including a failure to abide by the terms of their respective job descriptions or the checks and balances that were supposed to make them behave.

We are also supposed to make them behave this with our votes, but that is simply not enough in an age of mass media that is so easily manipulated.

by ear (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 49 comments) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:21:58 PM

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Granted, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi took her oath to defend the Constitution, probably only for the power, glory, and prestige of her "by the way, it's an important job, you know, number 3" comment on "The View", but she abdicated her duties and responsibilities even before taking her oath by taking the nation's Constitution "off the table" during her term, creating for herself a legacy of irresponsibility and total dereliction of her official duties that requires her removal from office CLICK HERE http://www.petitiononline.com/everyman/petition.html                                                         

by Gene Cappa (43 articles, 29 quicklinks, 113 diaries, 349 comments [37 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:10:06 PM

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Have her tried for obstruction of justice. 

by Dennis Kaiser (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 35 diaries, 730 comments [137 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:39:20 AM

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I have to laugh. Maybe by "upholding" the Constitution she means she hoisted it on her shoulders. What a pathetic person!

by Bill Cain (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 435 comments [67 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:11:44 PM

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Comment from Ratings:   Thanks, Linda, for a fabulous report. It was very enlightening to know of Pelosi and Evan's past connections, and the photo of Evans as Liberty was an astounding, goose-bump producing archetype.  Your messages in the books was  a BRILLIANT idea! If Pelosi is able to find the way back to her original path, it will be because of people like all of you lighting the way. I am hoping it is possible, you are all doing a fabulous job, and your work makes me hopeful.

by Meryl Ann Butler (70 articles, 82 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 722 comments [29 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:22:42 PM

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By taking impeachment of the table it is more like holding up the Constitutional processes she swore to support.

Support Cindy Sheehan however best you can. Get rid of Nancy Pelousi ASAP. 

by Jack Harrington (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 678 comments [70 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:23:57 PM

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How do you know that Pelosi isn't hypnotized and that Sheehan won't be also?

by karmacounselor (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 106 comments [7 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:30:45 PM

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While not able to speak for Pelosi, I am able to witness that Sheenan isn't out to make friends on the Hill.  She has an agenda to stop the war and has been as unwavering in her stance as Kucinich.

by bucketslogg (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 259 comments [99 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:43:32 PM

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I'm impressed by the courage of all those that in spite of insurmountable odds are breaking the sound barrier and demanding our elected officials be held accountable.

I'm equally stunned that the vast majority of Americans appear to overwhelmingly support the speaker without raising their voices.

How is it that she can fill an auditorium with silent and tacit support?

Why do they "applaud" her uncritically examined comment that she "took an oath of office and defends the constitution".

Why aren't the majority of people pressuring her to act? 

by August Adams (11 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 585 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:04:20 PM

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I think, August, what we are witnessing is the lost art of critical thinking. When I sat among Pelosi fans, I kept looking around thinking why are you clapping at this or that? You criticized Bush for saying something similar...etc. Most frustrating was that these were people who were otherwise well-educated and certainly well-established. I guess it's like a team sports mentality. They just don't get it

Great job Linda.

by Cheryl Biren-Wright (30 articles, 42 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 485 comments [8 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:31:07 PM

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Congress polls in the single digits.  The Congressional leadership polls lower than GWB, even lower single digits.  The people who attend these events are usually vetted.  Even if they aren't, those who would *want* to attend are probably supporters who know no better (and press).  I suppose that could fill the occasional auditorium.  But CODE PINK keeps its members apprised of upcoming actions, so likely as not, quite a few attendees are CODE PINK, IVFP, and Gold Star Families, there in support of the action, or even planning to participate.  (I had the honor to meet Jodie for the first time a few months before the Nov. job evaluation, and all our hopes were high for a Dem victory with Nancy as Speaker.  Back before this Congress won its way into the history books as the single Congress that betrayed the people worse than any other in history.)

I found it very telling that Pelosi's appearance on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (kicking off her book tour) elicited quite a bit of audience booing and jeering, enough that Jon had to settle the room down on several occasions.  (I understand the interview  actually took about 20 minutes, and was edited to the ~8 minutes allotted to higher-profile guests.)  To his credit, Jon did not let her off the hook, even though he remained professional (and funny) throughout.  He asked her if she explained why she felt it was okay to take impeachment off the table in her book.  He also asked about funding the war in spite of the 06 mandate, and about the Kucinich Articles.  She was at a real loss and blubbered nonsensically all the way through the interview.  (I found her comments about the  "positive" approval ratings for Dems in Congress especially amusing and very telling - she actually thinks these liars and betrayers have good approval ratings!  Another Washington Beltway Bubble Bobblehead.)  I suspect the producers knew that would tell the story as well as the boos, and yet maintain a bit more decorum.  (Jon always gets credit for decorum, I honestly don't know how he can interview some of his guests without anger, and yet he's rarely anything but respectfully - and humorously - attentive.  Although I do remember at least two impassioned comments, one about gay rights, and the other about the Constitution when interviewing two different neo-cons.)  

Oh, and the fact that every time Jon asked her a pointed question, like where she got her approval numbers, because they did not match what he had read, he was cheered.  And when she tried to suggest that impeachment was political (WRONG), Jon asked why Dems did much better after planning to impeach Nixon than Repugs did after impeaching Clinton.  "Was that related to Congress holding Nixon accountable for his refusal to answer subpoenas or to Clinton's cigar?" 

They did leave that in.  If we survive this horrible situation we're in with any of our Constitution intact, I hope Jon Stewart gets his fair share of credit.  I know he keeps me sane.

Pelosi is in for a shock in November.  I expect at least one chamber to go back to Republican majority, and I expect Cindy Sheehan to defeat Pelosi or at least come close enough to show the country, if not Pelosi herself, that the Congressional leadership can kow-tow all they want to the K Street blackmailers, but the PEOPLE are the boss.

by ear (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 49 comments) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 6:34:09 PM

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Unless we are willing to disicipline our Incumbent House Democrats,we will never get the House Democrats to consisently vote like Democrats. 

They do not fear the voters.  Running Cindy Sheehan against her is just a good start, but Pelosi is mainly a lightening rod for House Democrats.  Her job is to take the heat from the Base for all of them, and Pelosi is doing a great job of this. 

Many activists spend their time commenting and blogging against Pelosi.  What about the Incumbent House Democrats  in your own state?  Are they all on record as "for immediate impeachment hearings"?  If not, have you been in the streets protesting them, at all their public events, faxing and emailing them?  Are you willing to see one Incumbent House Democrat in your state go down in defeat to teach them a lesson.  If you are not, we won't have impeachment.  They simply do not fear the voters.

 Voters gave the House Democrats the majority in 2006. 

A simple majority vote is all it takes to start Impeachment Hearings, but Speaker Pelosi is blocking it. 

Pelosi is a Traitor to Her Oath & Our Constitution. Support Cindy Sheehan in opposition to Pelosi, but in addition, be sure to campaign against any Incumbent Democratic Congressman who does not publicly support impeachment.

Use Your Power To Force Impeach Hearings Now or lose it forever

"As John Dean points out, Bush/Cheney have broken the same laws Nixon did, only Nixon's actions did not cost the lives of over 4000 brave American men and women" (and over 30,000 GIs wounded, one Million Iraqis Killed).

Bush and Cheney are the most impeachable US executives in American history. If the Incumbent House Democrats do not hold impeachment hearings soon it will be plain to all that they are Traitors to their Oath Of Office and to Our Constitution.

The failure of the House Democrats to hold Bush and Cheney accountable for the WMD Lies is unforgiveable.  The Democrats lied to us about Stopping The Iraq War in 2006 and then proceeded to fund it thru 2009.  Even the Democratic Base will not support them in the November election.

No matter what Bush/Cheney Crimes evidence comes out the Incumbent  House Democrats will try to ignore it. It is time for some tough love for Incumbent House Democrats.

How can we make Impeachment Hearings Happen?

Arrayed against impeachment literally, is nearly the entire Democratic Party establishment as well as most Republican Congressmen. But the Democrats control Congress and can start Impeachment Hearings with a simple majority vote. They have the votes.  We just have to make them do it.

Most rank and file Democratic voters want Impeachment but are being ignored by the Democratic Congress.

In addition, many of the so called progressive organizations are also in cahoots with the House Democrat and Pelosi (such as: MoveOn, ACLU & UFPJ ) and are against impeachment. It will take a very hard fight to over come this and some real courage on the part of Democratic voters. 

MoveOn could cause Impeachment Hearings all by itself but refuses. 

UFPJ once said it was for impeachment but refuses to take its 1,400 local activist groups to the street to support impeachment hearings.  Is it lying?

ACLU (don't get me going) was the primary leader in causing impeachment hearings for President Nixon, but today refuses to do so.  If the hundreds of violations of Our Constitution by Bush and Cheney are so much worse than Nixon... Why in Hell isn't ACLU supporting it?  What underhanded deal have they made with the Incumbent House Democrats and Pelosi?

In Colorado we have actually been doing negative campaigning against all incumbent Democratic Congressmen who reject  impeachment.

We have a Congressman Udall who is running to be a Senator from Colorado. He supposedly has a liberal background but is moving right as fast as he can. He avoids all protesters who want to stop the Iraq War funding and who support impeachment. The difficult aspect is that the Colorado Democratic Party, the Denver Media, and most Colorado Progressive organizations are helping him avoid us, However,  we have had contacts  from strong Udall supporters and bloggers asking us to back off.  We know we are having an effect on Udall's Campaign.

The race for the US Senate from Colorado is statistically "too close to call", so we have a real chance to make a difference here. We believe that since the race is "so close" that we actually can stop Udall from winning and going to the Senate.

The way we are doing this is by doing "Negative Protesting" at our weekly impeachment events, at all of Udalls public events.   We only have to sway the vote of a very small percentage of voters to keep Udall out of the Senate. This is doable.

Up until about two weeks ago, the honking at our weekly events had quadrupled since January. Then we used much "tougher" anti-Udall language on our signs and the honking doubled again. So much so that the Denver Police came and threatened arrest if we continued to use "honk to impeach" signs and also threatened us with citations for "disturbing the peace". A strong indication that we are getting to the Democratic establishment and that the public is with us.

Given that impeachment advocates have worked hard to lobby Congress to hold hearings and have done so for many years with no results, we think it is time for all impeachment advocates to try a different tactic,  to get tough with Incumbent House Democrats.

The House Democrats have ignored us for years. Unless we threaten to un-elect them with negative campaigning they will continue to ignore us. The only thing they care about is getting re-elected.

Unless Angry Liberal Democrats, Independents, Republicans, Greens and the rest of you get off the couch and carry signs in front of all Incumbent House Democratic Congressmen's offices with harsh language such as

"UDALL is a Traitor to Our Constitution because he Refuses To impeach"...

There Will Be No Impeachment and No Accountability.

It is up to you.

John H Kennedy, Denver CO, 43 yr Democratic voter,
Obama delegate to the Denver County Democratic Convention, organizer of the
IMPEACH COLORADO COALITION http://ImpeachCO.com

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by John H Kennedy (12 articles, 7 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 281 comments [19 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:28:05 PM

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Everyone keeps saying she's not listening to the people. OK, but the next logical question is... who is she listening to if not us?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/whoiscongresslisteningto.html?q=whoiscongresslisteningto.html

by Roger Thomas (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 132 comments [10 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:37:55 PM

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What great coverage and rapportage from the front row of a Pelosi puff piece presentation !!  I don't know by my own lights how anyone could improve on what you've presented us here, facts, and background, quotes, personal confrontations.  It all shines through your piece. 

My how, how the hippy have fallen: Pelosi  was a power here when I got back to OC from France, in my twenties, and she's gone from grass roots activist par excellence to Congressional Madam, as you hint. Thirty years ago when I was a very green "temp" executive assistant on loan from an agency for a vacationing private secretary, myself recently returned from a four year respite in Paris ( and escape from being endlessly "Watergated," our era's MSM equivalent of prolonged "waterboarding" ) I organized a state wide Minorities Conference for the Vice Chancellor's office at UC Irvine in 1978, in cahoots with Mervyn Dymally's office, and when Jerry Brown was our governor.  I remember the post-60s ferment that was palpable at the conference, and hope and radical reform was in the air, just as palpable.  Pelosi was a major catalyst for so many things in that miieu, and we thought that even if they'd put the kebosh on so many other things in the country, what we were doing here could still lead the way back to reality. 

Now, to have to see how the corporatic structure of our society has deformed Madam Speaker's spirit through the years is a national tragedy of itself, and I wrote her as much last week.  As one of our writers here so nicely put it, I informed her that I'm not ashamed to be an American, but that I'm ashamed George Bush is an American. 

And I enlarged on that, customizing my form letter for her: I'm not ashamed to participate in my country's current woes, but I am only ashamed insofar as I have had to share the same place and time on the planet as Nancy Pelosi.  What a truly tragic disservice she has done all of us.

We need to get through to her, somehow, that it is not her "policy" choice to make, or to defer, for whatever skanky reasonings, to not act on the oaths of her office in clear ways, and to try to spin this into some other argument about "electability" and so forth.  If she still has any good intentions at all, then she has lost sight of the forest for the trees... 

 The very fact that she would choose not to prosecute these offenders in high places for what are clearly prosecutable felonies, is unacceptable and gives the green light for the next culprits, no doubt beneficiaries of exponentially rigged voting machines. 

 What is she waiting for, Armageddon: if these people are not brought to Justice we will continue to send the message that these crimes can slide.  To try to divert our energies to bring them to justice and try them for their crimes just reveals that Congress now has a "Siege Mentality" against the very people whom they represent.  Notice I didn't say, the very people who "elected" them, because all these facts of non-transparency in our congressional procedures show that they no longer represent the popluar will, and that they have turned Congress into a "Star Chamber" that is, in fact and effect, a parallel government that has lost all mandate and moorings. 

Thank you so much, Linda, from ALL of us, for raising the din, the volume, and most of all the precise eloquence with which you confronted Pelosi.  I remember the FCC hearings a few years ago when Code Pink members were removed from Michael Powell's Kangaroo Kourt, and the look on his face when he pounded the gavel to have them removed.  They continued to chant "...is the death of Democracy," and he winced nervously.  It spoke volumes, trilogies, and such actions will turn the tide. 

Meanwhile, Pelosi must be held accountable for this.  She needs to be removed from office by recall if won't serve us from her lofty, and highly paid, perch.  It's just shocking what's happened to her. 

I wrote her in the same letter that I have never been so ashamed of what we have become, here, at any one given moment, as that "day of infamy" in which she told reporters on CSPAN January 6, 2005, "Although we do not contest the results of this election........" Just the expression of benign pimpish omnipotence on her face made ME want to vomit......

That event that day, with her fellow Californian Boxer being the one lone vote mocking her refusal to contest, should tell us all we need to know about her current "stand" on "Impeachment" and what hogwash she has become. 

Say it ain't so, Pelosi!"

~~John Ervin

PS  I lick my wounds, these days, by the upbeat development this year that Erwin Chemerinsky was appointed the first dean of UC Irvine's new Law School, and that after a furious onslaught to remove him by Nixon's old circuit of local hoy paloy, he was re-hired after first being hired and as quickly fired.  That strange back and forth made news around the world, and showed there are signs of renewal, and hope for us here in "The OC."

by muservin (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 78 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:47:54 PM

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We do not know what causes people to compromise their values, betray their word and abaondon their constitutents.  When they have done that, all that matters is that we illuminate their perfidy and replace them before they can do any further damage.

by MDelano (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:11:28 PM

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Comment from Ratings:   This is timely and very important rapportage about a key piece of the puzzle: Pelosi. What gets through to her? Hopefully, Linda Milazzo

by muservin (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 78 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:31:37 PM

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Comment from Ratings:   When Nancy Pelosi was elected to be House Speaker EVERYONE was hopeful that SHE would carry out the impeachment process. When she uttered the words, Impeachment is OFF THE TABLE, she disgusted MANY people that voted for her! We thought SHE was the one to get Bush/Cheney out of the White House! All I can say is, WHAT HAPPENED TO NANCY PELOSI? Is there something she is hiding from? Is there a skeleton in her closet she doesn't want to come out? Can somebody PLEASE explain what went wrong?

by Addie Corn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 3:39:11 PM

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She set a trap for the American people when she decreed that they could not hold hearings on impeachment.

From then on, all perpetrators of crimes within the US gov, however serious those crimes,  were to be above and beyond the reach of accountability, above the law.  The process of impeachment hearings is the recourse of the people, when they have reason to believe that serious crimes have been committed from within the gov.   In removing that recourse, she gave free rein for the continuation of any and all abuses, however heinous.

And no one in Congress seems to have called her on it, other than the one or two who continued to try for impeachment.  They should have called her on that!  They should have at least suggested that she was overstepping her authority,  was claiming power which she did not have, or should not have had.

Instead there was silence, acquiescence, while the right to recourse was removed from all.

And to add insult to the deep injury, she now says, "I know of no crime",  or "If I knew of a crime it would be different".   The whole purpose of Impeachment Hearings is to DETERMINE whether such crimes have been committed - To LOOK at the evidence and decide!!    For her to say that she "knows of no crime" when she HERSELF removed the possibility of considering such crimes,  is either senility or deep guile.

by Aurora (0 articles, 95 quicklinks, 52 diaries, 648 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:43:04 PM

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While everyone but two people who read this article are wasting time with accolades or bewiderment the administration is planning a genocide. Keep on telling people how great their articles are, what a traitor Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats are but the bottom line is that there is a lot of wisdom in Washington. The Dem's who you think have abandoned you have just been given a choice. It's called inoculation.

Has no one noticed that every single person who reaches a position where they have any power to hurt this administration suddenly gets real quiet?

The first to go was Bill Clinton. After how many years of prosecution and persecution from the republican party he becomes best bud's with Bush and the Party? Why do you think Hilary campaigned with all of the conviction of a used car salesman? She's scared sh*tless.

Next most obvious, in the 2004 campaign with John Kerry the obvious winner with less than three weeks to the election he drops out of sight and lets Bush walk through the gates. He was scared sh*tless. We thought that getting a majority in congress was going to solve our problems,, you wouldn't know there was a single democrat in congress. Why not? Because they're scare sh*tless.

Nancy Pelosi is in the perfect position to lead a legitimate coup and take these people out of power, she's always been a loyal liberal, a radical by proper definition, just as repulsed by the corporate-religious-military complex as I or Mr. M or most of you are but she sits quietly, refusing to even give an explanation for her actions. Why? Because she can't! SHE"S SCARED SH*TLESS! She doesn't want her and her entire circle of family and friends to die!

Does that sound too extreme to you? Well, you better get over it quickly because it's the fact.

Question yourself in their positions, what could possibly change your mind, make you literally JOIN their side as soon as you have or are about to attain some power to stop them?

Mr. M, John H., Dr. Truth, all the rest of you who finally get it, will you all start telling people exactly what's happening. No more skirting the issues, beating around the Bush. No one will get it, they're too scared to allow themselves to believe the truth.  There's only one way out of this and we all know it. Now we're coming to the point where we've nothing to lose, we're going to lose everything if we don't act very soon. It's difficult to convince people of such a fictional sounding plot but we're not talking UFO's here. We're talking about something that HAS HAPPENED in almost every country in the world at one time or another. Why can't you believe it's happening here? Do you all really want to lose everything, including your lives? Do you think I'm foolish enough to say this and risk my life if I didn't believe with all of my heart? I'm not crazy, I just refuse to let these people take or freedom as they are now or our lives as they plan. Do you not realize that there is and end plan to this. Do you think they're going to go on like this forever? 

The biggest question to ask yourself is why are all of these people who we voted for to defend us in just this type of situation abandoning us and turning their backs to us. Losing their lives is the only possible leverage that could have gotten every single politician who has the power to institute proceedings against this party to back off. Even so many of their own people have dropped out, maybe they just didn't have the stomach to work it anymore but their still not talking. How come in the past 50 years any one who has tried to interfere with this agenda has been murdered,, only liberals or progressives, not a single republican. When someone tried to get Reagan they failed, they didn't have the CIA, the FBI and the Secret Service watching his back for them, they were just someone who tried to stop the evil.And they are evil!

Wake up, grow up, face your fear, now,,, or later.

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 3:44:47 PM

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What is your plan?

by JC Garrett (40 articles, 65 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 604 comments [10 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:31:56 PM

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The best one guy who's no one can figure. I'm trying to shake people out of denial and try to get everyone of one mind to try to reach others , etc. Have you ever heard of the theory of six?

I'm counting on there being someone, somewhere in the government who needs support . Someone who has connections of power.  Before it came to this I was counting on Pelosi, she was the ace in the hole but, further proof for me, anytime we have a solution they all of a sudden, without explanation, desert their posts. That should be enough evidence right there as to what's going on.

What do you think Brother? I've been trying to solicit thoughts from people like you for years and it seems everyone has their head in the sand or is afraid to speak out. (rightfully so, I suppose)

Meanwhile, I'm covered to protect myself for a bit anyway, but I don't have an answer if people start getting sick.  We just really need to communicate, there's strength in numbers and that's all we've got. It's better than nothing, unless someone has something else on their mind.

pcmirisola@bellsouth.net

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:02:00 PM

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You haven't articulated your solution.   You've merely elevated your rant. What activism are you participating in?  How are YOU facing off against the power elite?  I don't hear anything from you that would lead to a concrete solution.  

Sorry, but rants aren't solutions.   Lay out your plan and we'll consider its validity.   And if it's valid, we'll join you. Until then you accomplish little by haranguing others.   Will you be in Denver?  Will you be in St. Paul?   What are you doing to bring a solution to this at all?

by Linda Milazzo (128 articles, 1 quicklinks, 18 diaries, 210 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:45:37 AM

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No one is going to like what I have to say because it's fatalistic. I don't even like saying it. But if there is a solution it will come from the ashes of what's left after we're turned this planet into a burnt cinder.

Believe me, I am not advocating we give up. Just the opposite. But I simply see no way we can avoid a destruction that has been planned and is being executed by forces that have been working towards this end for centuries, whereas those that would oppose them haven't even come up with formulating a solution.

We write letters that aren't read. We march in streets that aren't seen. We speak in voices that aren't heard.

The forces we're fighting have unimaginable wealth and power along with the most destructive weapons ever devised and have control mechanisms they are panting to unleash.  And when they take the Internet away from us, which they will, we'll have little left to awaken a populace that is drugged, deluded and indebted to the very slave-masters we're trying to overcome.

These evil masters have learned their lessons well. They have keep account of how they've been defeated in the past and plugged every hole. They own everything and hence control everything. They have our airways, our courts, our police, our military, our government and they're as insane as any before them that have reached near omnipotent power. It's the reign of a group of Nero's on steroids. Through out history, without exception, when elites reached absolute power they have been driven mad. Our current crop of megalomaniacs is no exception. If anything it is this insanity that has manifested itself and infested everyone and everything in touches, like a Midas Touch, only instead of turning into gold, one becomes insane.

I don't have a solution other than the same one our Founding  Fathers used to form this Nation and I see little hope that we have people with that resolve and courage today. Of this I can only say I pray I'm wrong. But again, this means blood. So if there is a solution it's going to come after many die, and who among this crop of pseudo-intellectuals are ready for that? How many of you are willing to kill? What would it take? I only fight against what I know to be wrong with whatever tools available in my sad acceptance that we too, as other species have come and gone, have now reached that point in time that our reign on this planet is coming to an end. Call it End Times, Armageddon, Rapture, Apocalypse or a March of Folly, the end result is the same. And I can't for the life of me understand any of it. I can't understand how a species that can be so brilliant and so stupid at the same time has existed to get even this far.

We have been on this planet as a species for no more than a blink of an eye, and in this short span of time have managed to take what Nature has given us and twist it to a point that what once gave life now gives death.

How one reverses this tragedy is any one's guess. I wish I knew. I wish I had an answer. I have only a sad refrain, a feeling as though my heart has been ripped out of my body, like one of those sacrifices the Aztecs would offer to their Gods.

Some Gods. Some world.

And like those Aztecs if anything does survive and come across our ruins in some distant future they too can wonder how such a seemingly advanced species seemed to simply vanish from this Earth.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:42:45 AM

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Mr. M,

Just letting you know that my so-called "rant" wasn't directed at you. It was a direct answer to Nancy who was calling me out but somehow it landed directly under your comment.

I'm not sure who these people think their enemy is but we all are trying to do something about a problem we've never faced before. Some us just perceive a different level of danger facing our people (I see inevitable danger) they see potential danger.

Anyway, please don't assume that my response was directed toward you. You're one of the few people on this site who I believe has clarity.

Peter

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:38:49 PM

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I was answering Linda ... never thought you were addressing me ...

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:36:44 PM

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What are you doing to save the country in a "rational" manner? Signing petitions, standing at rally's with signs? Who are you trying to reach? Are you yelling at congressmen and senators to impeach people? Are you telling them all about the constitution and the bill of rights? Are you letting them know that "you're fed up"?  Good, because they didn't know about any of those things until you went to Wash. and stood there like sheep in a flock.

I don't harrass people who I believe are childishly wasting precious time. It's your time, if you want to spend it back in the sixties, go right ahead.

I already did the sixties once. WE marched, signed petitions, burned our draft cards, got gassed and beat with batons, some of us were even gunned down by our own so-called militia. Go ahead and trust the government to work for you. That's your prerogative. I'm exercising mine. I don't feel like playing that fun little game again.

Maybe there's someone in congress or the senate or the military who's looking for someone who will do other things than hold signs and stand still. I am disabled. I can't go chasing wannabe rebels around the country and do crowd chants. You do your thing, I'll do mine but please, don't bother me. I'm not looking to get in a pissing contest. 

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:11:29 PM

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This is probably why things get confused, I respond to you calling me out and my response ends up under Mr. M.

It's not my fault that you're clueless Linda. You see things differently than I. You think you can change minds, I want to reach like minds with power. I'm not wasting any more of my time telling politicians that they're greedy, corrupt or dispicable. If they are they already know it and don't care.  Would you have petitioned Hitler? Perhaps you'd have marched on Goebbels house to persuade him to deny an order from Adolph. That's what you're effectively doing whether you are in that frame of mind or not but again, if that's how you chose to engage the instruments of your enemy, that's your choice.

I would rather engage with the enemy of my enemy and if you believe that the Bush regime is not an enemy of the people then you are irrelevant. I don't intend that as an insult, though I'm sure that's how it will be perceived but my feelings are that hurt feelings won't matter much when most of us are dead and whoever survives wishes they were.

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:23:38 PM

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You have YET to describe HOW you're solving anything.  You haven't offered one concrete solution.   Give us a plan.   We've heard your rants. Now give us your plan.  

And regardless of where in this thread this comment falls, PeterJ it is directed at you!  WHAT'S YOUR PLAN?  WHAT ARE YOUR PROPOSITIONS? WHAT ARE YOUR PLANNED ACTIONS?  WHAT ACTIONS HAVE YOU TAKEN IN THE PAST?  WHAT ARE YOUR SUCCESSES? You've deemed our work futile. You've chastised our efforts - but you still haven't offered a plan.  

by Linda Milazzo (128 articles, 1 quicklinks, 18 diaries, 210 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:52:20 PM

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Do you ever READ anything that someone else writes which isn't showering you with accolades? You should be a republican as you share so many of their qualities.

I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with you here, READ my articles, better still, I'll give it all once again, just for your benefit.

I'll post you with my next article.

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:40:12 AM

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When I answered your question and provided you with my "agenda" I figured one of two things. One; you wouldn't read it and I wouldn't hear back from you because you can not engage, you can only attack.  or Two; you would read it and I wouldn't hear back from you because you cannot engage, you can only attack.

Besides, you couldn't provide a reasonable response which would draw more adolation and accolades. What's the point in talking without applause?

I was never intending to attack you, I'm sorry if that was the impression. I believe that we both want the same results, Bush and his entire administration out of power with replacements who represent the working class citizens of this country. We just believe in taking different avenues. I read your articles and gave my opinion, I don't think that you really read mine. My only contention with your methodology is that it distracts people from taking the action which I believe will have results, at least I hope and pray (if you can call what I do as prayer) that it will have good results. I am also afraid that if I'm correct that I may draw attention from the very people we fear.

Sorry if we got off on the wrong foot but please, don't assume that someone else who wants the same things as you is your enemy. We need to stick together, not fight amongst each other. 

Regards, Peter

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:21:21 AM

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Think about it..."they" can't kill EVERYBODY. If the Dems stuck together, they'd be fine. It would look awfully suspicious if every person supporting impeachment were to suddenly die in accidents, suicides etc at about the same time.  The key is sticking together. That's the message we need to send to Dems.

by camanokat (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 81 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:14:59 PM

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Unfortunately Kathy, they can kill everyone, as a matter of fact that is exactly what their intentions are. Well, I should be a little more clear. Everyone except themselves and followers who are compliant or potential threats who have the power to stop them (those people, like Nancy Pelosi, they will make a deal with and inoculate them and family, friends from their flu.) Enough Mexicans will survive and more will be allowed through to fill the labor force, to collect their garbage, build new homes, do their repairs, etc. for dollars a day. If you just look at it, without the sickening fear that such thoughts bring, it becomes so clear, but, rather than be fearful, be angry. Get as pissed off as you can. HOW DARE those bastards! Those smirking, jerk off sneers, that two faced pig Cheney, Condy Rice with that smug tight lipped lying talking head, and Bush, making jokes at our expense,,"Nope,, no WMDs here!~!..Laugh at US? A bunch of inbred, hillbilly, freeks, hanging off their mommy's apron strings and their daddy's wallets. They can't beat us! they got lucky but now we're on to them. We will corall them into the prison camps they built for us! Them and all of theeir clerksssss, secretaries, lobbyists, everyone who aids in their endeavor to hold the power. We will show NO mercy when the time comes. They will be treated like the common criminals that they are. We will impound and appropriate all of their holdings and possessions as evidence, leaving them with public defenders to take their cases. They will be treated just as WE would be treated under these circumstances. So, don't be afraid, picture the whole lot in leg irons and hand cuffs doing the "perp walk" up the steps of the Federal Building. That's where their heading, maybe not by Pelosi but by US! The PEOPLE of the United States Of America. Because there are enough military men and women,Generals, X and current, enough Congressmen, Senators, Clerks and Secretaries, (it's a fact that hitler could never have accomplished what he did without the clerks and secretaries) and Citizens of this Nation of OURS, not theirs, they stole it, we're gonna take it back, to make the same moves that they made when they exercised their coup and walked up the White House Steps. This time iit will be representatives of the People climbing those steps but we all have to join together and write as many editorials, link as many articles and videos, take as many polls and pass them on to every newspaper editorial pages, send these articles when you write them to Wash, Senate and Congress with the message "Remove the Bush Administration from Power, NOW!"

Make this a major issue in your life for a while. It will be over soon, one way or the other but it's up to you and me what we'll be doing when it is. Will we go back to our normal lives, in better shape than we have been in decades or will we wind up destitute or sick beyond anyones imagination, or imprisonned in camps, manned by Blackwater employees or worse still,, dead? Up until now we've always had the choice to "pick our poison", nothing else,, to pick a third party was to put the worse of two evils in the house, for sure. Now we have to consider whether an actual election is the answer at all. So far our electoral process has been a dismal failure, this year we're going to change all of that! Now it's OUR time, whatever it takes.

Right?

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:21:04 PM

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You act, or write, like we're all just newbies and newcomers, simply because we're sticking it to Pelosi and not everybody else, or that we don't see an End Game.  Of course we see the end game: it's more stark and well-defined than any chess board.  Germany and Japan and others went through intense buildups like this, and Tojo serenaded a whole country with his fiasco of "Total War."  That's what they want for us, and it's end result is Hiroshima, or the furnace-blasted streets of Dresden. 

But, until then, we need to remind Pelosi that if she can't fit the bill, then she should not continue to festoon herself with all the trappings of price and power, and just come clean.  She could just resign, and say, "I've been threatened, I can't govern effectively, and so I'm stepping down and I'm going to scrub floors for the next twenty years to remind myself of what a sucker I've been."

No, she doesn't do that.  She prefers in the impotence of her insipidity at a high wage, and all the dividends and holdings that come with it, to the sterling and saving Moment of Truth.  She COULD come clean.

 She won't.  I think maybe some people think it's easier to go along than to go out with some style.  It's not.  It's harder, and she'll find that out.

 I've preached the same message you have, Peter, even on radio, repeatedly, and at length, but the fact remains, our Congress has been infiltrated by a fifth column of wannabes posing as "Democrats."  It's the nature of the political beast as it now exists at this stage of corporatocratic takeover, that almost all these politicians have turned into scum.

They could do something telling, but they won't.  There are many ways Pelosi could approach this, without getting killed, but she won't.  She should step down, or be taken down by recall.  True, progressives have been killed, and I would never insure them if I was an executive underwriting them, that's for sure, they are sitting ducks, but many have survived to fight another day, and it's simply the fortunes of war when they don't.  (Hell, I'm surprised they haven't shot me yet, although it's quite true that once they tried to run me off the road, just after the 2004 "election": I followed their jackal in my car and caught up with his no-plates sports car at a light and made quite a scene, and they stopped after that.  Why doesn't Pelosi try something AS in their face, instead of cowering in her chair while thousands of Americans and millions of her fellow humans die because of her inaction? )

 I refuse to believe that they can't be reached by our din, or that "their hands are tied."  I prefer the alternate theory, that they are all members of an elite club and have been gassed by all the laughing gas that comes with that ethereal entourage.

We have the duty to persevere and untie those hands they've so quaintly left tied.  People all over the world have pointed out that during Vietnam, it was the American people who rose up that forced their rulers to comply with sanity, some sanity.  We have that power now, so it must be up to us to use it.

 ~John Ervin

Native Intelligence Agency

by muservin (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 78 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:07:09 AM

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I am writing this letter in white and I am writing this letter on the backs of all of my countrymen!  If you will not depose the vice president, the president, & madame secretary, I suggest that you stop being the Lady of the Congress!  It makes me sick when I think of all of the people that WE the USA are suppose to be fighting for the freedom and rights of HUMANITY!  That is what our constitution reads!  We should have been going after the RUSSIANS!  JFK knew that the RUSSIANS were enemies!  And GWB is just finding that out???  When GWB stated that he looked PUTIN in the eye...  Now will you please congress out of recess and get busy before it is too LATE!

by nestacal (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 39 comments) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:31:55 PM

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IMPEACH bush

VOTE Pelosi

Where's George?

And other notes, on dollar bills, as such may occur to us.

by meremark (1 articles, 3 quicklinks, 30 diaries, 572 comments [22 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:20:54 PM

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As a fellow journalist and blogger we're in agreement Pelosi must be "delusional" for not upholding her pledge to protect the Constitution, Linda. Over at my Blog I offer explainations for her inaction though and proceed to list the crimes Bush/Cheney are accused of commiting for emphasis. 

What most voters fail to recognize is unless impeachment is allowed to be enacted all other issues such as Katrina, Healthcare, esculating gas prices and mortgage obligations won't be solved by the next Preidency because we are drowning in our own debt. 

End the war and we remove a significant burden on our people.  Continue it or shift it to neigboring Afghanistan and Pakistan and the only ones who benefit or corporations. 

Choosing either Obama or McCain is like having two corporate suits to pick from.  The only way we can protect Constitutional democracy is by electing a progressive majority in Congress to check the Executive militancy accumulated under the Bush presidency. 

Anything less and freedom as we have known it will be terminated forever.

Thanks for your enlightening article.  We're definitely in sync.  :)

Peace,

Cosmic

by Cosmic (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 9 comments) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:38:48 PM

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Just thank you, all of you, for standing up to Pelosi at her book signing.  I did not know the depths of her downturn on democracy.  So, your hard work in the arena of holding people to truth is appreciated.

by zephyr (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 74 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:58:24 PM

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That amazing Liberty pic - so deeply symbolic of what so many are fighting for right now in the US - extraordinary, inspiring, so very encouraging.

I hope this story gets wide coverage - it has the potential to be helpful to many people.

Thank you so much.

by Aurora (0 articles, 95 quicklinks, 52 diaries, 648 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:05:57 PM

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Our political system is rigged.  It is a one party system pretending to be two separate and opposing parties.   That is why there is no impeachment, Iraq war continues, FISA bill passed, headed toward a police state (DNC detention camp in Denver - google it), etc.  How better to fool the masses than to control both sides.  Those people that have the power would be foolish to control only one side of the aisle.  Control both sides and you can make sure the the outcome is guaranteed.  Peloci and other leaders in the Democratic party have all been bought.

Go

by Goblue (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 70 comments) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:37:51 PM

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Threatened and scared and rightly so.

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:45:10 PM

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 I said it before ,and i will say it again. (REBELLION ,REBELLION, REBELLION REBELLION what else. it happened before. do you want to die and do nothing? stand up and fight now. quit putting your tail between your legs. they think they can do damage . they dont know the damage we can do. act now.

by vincent passiatore (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 185 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:07:20 PM

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I just wrote about Milazzo article  in a letter to the Sheehan campaign. Code Pink is so courageous, i wear pink ducttape where ever i go in their honor.

-yzur-

by mikel weisser (49 articles, 3 quicklinks, 15 diaries, 87 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:11:37 AM

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muservinJohn Ervin is a freelance writer who has written extensively about voting fraud and corporate crimes and he has been the radio guest of Jim Hogue at www.wgdr.org, where he also made his solo debut, a year ago Bastille Day, singing all 7 verses of La Marseillaise. As a member of the American Federation of Musicians (local 4) he has performed as a concert pianist for the French; and he has also recorded for EMI and in broadcasts for the BBC and with the Cleveland Orchestra as a member of its choru... to see more of bio, click on member name

Same Chiding as I wrote, Four to Eight years ago You act, or write, like we're all just newbies and newcomers, simply because we're sticking it to Pelosi and not everybody else, or that we don't see an End Game.  Of course we see the end game: it's more stark and well-defined than any chess board.  Germany and Japan and others went through intense buildups like this, and Tojo serenaded a whole country with his fiasco of "Total War."  That's what they want for us, and it's end result is Hiroshima, or the furnace-blasted streets of Dresden.  But, until then, we need to remind Pelosi that if she can't fit the bill, then she should not continue to festoon herself with all the trappings of price and power, and just come clean.  She could just resign, and say, "I've been threatened, I can't govern effectively, and so I'm stepping down and I'm going to scrub floors for the next twenty years to remind myself of what a sucker I've been." No, she doesn't do that.  She prefers in the impotence of her insipidity at a high wage, and all the dividends and holdings that come with it, to the sterling and saving Moment of Truth.  She COULD come clean.  She won't.  I think maybe some people think it's easier to go along than to go out with some style.  It's not.  It's harder, and she'll find that out.  I've preached the same message you have, Peter, even on radio, repeatedly, and at length, but the fact remains, our Congress has been infiltrated by a fifth column of wannabes posing as "Democrats."  It's the nature of the political beast as it now exists at this stage of corporatocratic takeover, that almost all these politicians have turned into scum. They could do something telling, but they won't.  There are many ways Pelosi could approach this, without getting killed, but she won't.  She should step down, or be taken down by recall.  True, progressives have been killed, and I would never insure them if I was an executive underwriting them, that's for sure, they are sitting ducks, but many have survived to fight another day, and it's simply the fortunes of war when they don't.  (Hell, I'm surprised they haven't shot me yet, although it's quite true that once they tried to run me off the road, just after the 2004 "election": I followed their jackal in my car and caught up with his no-plates sports car at a light and made quite a scene, and they stopped after that.  Why doesn't Pelosi try something AS in their face, instead of cowering in her chair while thousands of Americans and millions of her fellow humans die because of her inaction? )  I refuse to believe that they can't be reached by our din, or that "their hands are tied."  I prefer the alternate theory, that they are all members of an elite club and have been gassed by all the laughing gas that comes with that ethereal entourage. We have the duty to persevere and untie those hands they've so quaintly left tied.  People all over the world have pointed out that during Vietnam, it was the American people who rose up that forced their rulers to comply with sanity, some sanity.  We have that power now, so it must be up to us to use it.  ~John Ervin Native Intelligence Agency   by muservin (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 27 comments) on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 at 3:07:09 AM

by muservin (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 78 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:09:30 AM

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NO, I wasn't plugging my own curriculum vitae in the column on the left above, that was unintentional.  On the other hand, it's pretty surreal and op art, though that effect wasn't intended.  Don't know how it happened, but it is what it is, and it's not my "placa" and surely much easier to remove than graffiti.....!

by muservin (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 78 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:18:58 AM

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Values, conscience or political ideology aren't factors in US governance.  Follow the reasoning.  If Pelosi, or any other Federal politician wants to survive in Washington, they had better damn well bow to AIPAC and cooperate with the Zionist agenda, period.

by Michael McCoy (7 articles, 1 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 488 comments [28 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 6:35:10 PM

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John, I truly thought that you had it together for a while. Then you bought right into the "sheep"theory,, everyone stand around holding signs and shouting slogans like they really matter. That's what they expect from us, it doesn't bother them and Pelosi sure doesn't worry about how Linda feels about her, all she cares about is keeping her loved ones alive. Such shallow , elementary thinking about "getting her attention" will maybe annoy her but will hardly succeed in convincing her to sacrifice her life and the life of her family to satisfy Linda Milazzo. Unfortunately, she's a legend in her own mind, a handful of blog readers will do nothing to sway pelosi or anyone else. If you think you can threaten people who've been threatened with death then you need a serious reality check. Step back a bit John and join the real world.

Linda can call me out all she wants but here's the bottom line, this is a new approach for me. I'm not calling for violence or revolution, I'm only trying to steer people in a direction they haven't been yet, all of the "quiet, unheard of's" in Wash who have some power and conections and who may, unbeknownst to us, have a plan. Maybe it's a move, maybe it's backdoor, maybe it's a coup but you know what? With all of the mouth running, accolade seeking, poster holding chant fests that Linda has endorsed, throwing out the names of all of the "wonderful, daring "activists" she's held hands with for years now, she hasn't accomplishe one single thing! unless of course you count dazzeling all of you easily impressed people who love to pat her ass at every chance. Has she fixed this problem? Will she fix this problem? No. And NO. She'll keep posting articles about the wonderful, famous activists she's met while america burns. I'm sure that will be satisfying for her. She can sell books, if there's anyone left to read them.

She keeps asking my agenda and I keep telling her, is she deaf? Blind? Dumb? I will not engage in a pissing contest, if she won't read anyone's articles but her own then she'll just have to remain clueless.

One other thing, would you please quit posting the same comment over and over, accusing meof calling you a "newbie". That word has never crossed my lips.

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:06:48 PM

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Dear Linda

I write only for myself, but I attempt to answer some of the questions you posed to Peter.

WHAT'S YOUR PLAN?  WHAT ARE YOUR PROPOSITIONS? WHAT ARE YOUR PLANNED ACTIONS?  WHAT ACTIONS HAVE YOU TAKEN IN THE PAST?  WHAT ARE YOUR SUCCESSES?

I propose that we imprison all government employees higher than GS/9, their spouses, children and grandchildren. They should be charged with crimes against humanity and murder. Under the Patriot and Military Commissions Acts they could sit in FEMA concentration camps as enemy combatants without trial. The employees under GS/9 can research the files to uncover evidence of further wrong doing.

In 1948 the Chinese executed eight millions landlords. Less extreme, I suggest that we inject landlords with foreclosed properties and allow the tenants to live rent-free for life in the housing units.

Owners who have suffered foreclosure should recover their properties mortgage free. Bankers and real estate agents who participated in the subprime scam can also romp in a concentration camp.

After many years of Israeli judicial misconduct, citizens took to burning judges’ cars and threatened to murder hard cases. The system lightened up somewhat. For example, the Police accepted my formal complaint against 100 Israelis for crimes against humanity and murder. [I escaped assassination because my documentation was well founded and dispersed.]

Since tyrannies are most vulnerable to prosecution on a human rights basis, it is a great avenue for attack.

I agree with the 1960’s veterans who commented here. Fighting the system on its home ground is a waste of time.

by Jason Paz (68 articles, 89 quicklinks, 112 diaries, 1395 comments [98 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:48:09 AM

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These people have no clue. I don't either but then I never lived in a country where the government tears citizens apart, steals their property, enslaves, imprisons or tortures them. I suppose we're lucky, all they do is lie and subvertly steal from us, well, and maybe suck its' citizens into going to another country and killing its' inhabitants for no good reason.  But that's just for now. There's going to be some really big changes in all of that in the very near future and everyone believes that electing the first black man to the presidency is going to change all of that. You know the old saying, "If you can't dazzle'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullsh*t". It sure applies here. This country is the most easily mislead people since the Jews in Nazi Germany seventy years ago. How soon people forget. I guess in a country where our grade school and high school history books were writtten like fairy tales, what with old Georgie chopping down cherry trees and flipping coins accross the Potomac we never really concentrated on any reality. While we were fighting communism by telling everyone about the USSR's propoganda machine our own machinery was running full force fighting imaginary "drug wars" and "wars against litterbugs" and any other "war" we could get peoples heads tangled up in. (has it never occurred to anyone that we haven't actually "won" any war since WWll?) No matter, we'll fight em anyway.

You're in Israel? You have a different perspective than people here in the US. As a matter of fact, the rest of the world has a different perspective. Those who don't absolutely hate us laugh at us,, or pity us. But again, no matter. If GW doesn't care what the rest of the world thinks, why should we?

Take care Jason

by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:38:57 AM

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by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:17:48 AM

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Comment from Ratings:   Thank you for this article. Sadly, Nancy Pelosi has completely lost it! For many of us feminist progressives, when Pelosi became Speaker of the House, we cheered...there was hope for IMPEACHMENT among other important issues that related to her OATH of office. Unfortunately, she put her hand on the christian bible (crossed her fingers) and did not put her hand on a copy of the Constitution of the United States of America. Had she done so, she never would have uttered the words "Impeachment is off the table". I am sad for her progressive friends who have had to witness the crash from grace of their former progressive friend and mentor.

by Penel (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 53 comments) on Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:39:58 PM

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