WHAT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND, HOW CAN THERE BE THIS MANY PEOPLE LYING  TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, HOW MANY PEOPLE WORK IN THIS MASS MEDIA DECEPTION, OUR GOVERNMENT, THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.THE LIES ARE BEING BELIEVED, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT,IS THIS FROM ALL THE YEARS OF PEOPLE DRINKING FLUORIDE IN THEIR WATER, AND DOSE THE GOVERNMENT AT THE TIME OF AN ELECTION IN CREASE THE AMOUNT OF FLUORIDE IN OUR DRINKING WATER. HITLER USED FLUORIDE TO SUBDUE THE MASSES, WITCH HE BOUGH FROM ALCOA IN THE LEAD UP TO THE SECOND WORLD WAR. HOW CAN ALL THESE LIES BE BELIEVED?

by RICH SHA (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 106 comments) on Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:50:13 AM

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As a white activist trying to forge ties in the African American community, I have had the opportunity to observe the impact of the Obama candidacy in the African-American community. Even the left-leaning AfAm activist community will support Obama to the hilt, because he is widely seen as a symbolic figure, and one who could break the color barrier in US politics in a more complete way thatn has been done to date. As one radical black activist put it to me "The idea of a black man in the 'White' House is very energizing to African American voters".  The White House represents power, and this is the goal of any political group, the power to affect change.

There is a much better African American candidate in Cynthia McKinney, the likely Green Party nominee. But the statistically measurable chance that Obama could win the presidential election will not be passed up for a protest candidate.

I think much of the future of the Democratic Party in the African American community depends on Obama winning this election. If the duopoly agrees that McCain should win, which I see the media and the pundits already setting up, the African American community will leave the Democratic Party in droves.  If Obama wins, they can count on mainstream African American support for at least one more election cycle.

by Wayne Turner (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 53 comments) on Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 8:58:36 AM

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Third party candidates force the crook parties to become more specific and to stop ignoring  issues.

by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1760 comments [39 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:57:38 AM

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Nader is undoubtedly a prostitute of the worst kind as he has no remorse of being used like that drug induced street walker in order to get reimbursed for their dutiful act.

As it would be unwise for McCain (or whomever the Republicans decide will represent them in the election, again if there IS one) for him to bring up this possible decider in the election, Nader has been given that role as he is a loser anyway and can cause no damage to the Republican party.  One thing you can count on though is that he will be well paid for his services, as he has been in the past elections.

Isn't it strange that the only time you hear from this cretin is when an election rolls around?  It's much like those bin Laden tapes and then, of course, another book by Ann Coulter, complete with material stolen from other books/authors.  My how predictable the Karl Rove tactics have become. 

by Dennis Kaiser (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 35 diaries, 730 comments [137 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jun 28, 2008 at 6:44:37 AM

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Dennis

Your email is filled with the kind of nonsense that Nader has to put up with -- false statements and name calling.

Nader is actually hurting McCain more than Obama according to polls.  More Nader voters would have McCain as their second choice than Obama.  Why?  Because McCain is a weak candidate, unpopular with his base and little enthusiasm among those who lean toward him. Nader is a reformer, so is McCain.

As far as getting paid goes, OpenSecrets.org reviewed Nader's finances in 2004 and found he got less than 5% of his funding from Republicans -- even though polls found he got 25% of his vote from Republican registered voters.  Obama is getting more support from Republicans and corporations.  Open Secrets reports that McCain and Obama are tied in their support from the military industrial complex, for example.

The race card Nader is playing is urging Obama to challenge the white establishment -- the corporations who rule the government, the predatory lenders, the polluters of the urban areas -- why is Obama silent?  Why not look at Nader's points rather than name call and make up nonsense?  Is it too hard to face the facts about Obama?

by Kevin Zeese (102 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 62 comments [13 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:25:51 AM

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Ralph Nader has been deeply involved in every progressive fight since the 1960's and unlike this year's Democratic candidate, he courageously confronted enormous pressure from the rich and powerful on behalf of ordinary citizens.  This has sometimes made him unpopular sometimes and caused people who are ignorant of his accomplishments to call him a cretin and berate him because he didn't spend his life chasing camera crews and saying things that the rich and powerful wanted to hear.  Instead he spent he time promoting labor rights, challenging drug companies, polluters, agri-business, banking and credit card companies, nuclear power industry, health insurance, and Wall Street.  He made a lot of powerful enemies and he has every right to ask Obama why are you talking about Change in ambiguous terms and still ignoring these important and vital issues

Nader is not going to make Obama lose.  If Obama can't beat a weak candidate like McCain, he doesn't deserve to win.  If Obama can only win by becoming a moderate Republican, he doesn't deserve to win.  If Obama can only win by moving to the right of the majority of voters, he doesn't derserve to win.  Obama would do much better if he addressed the issues that Nader presents rather than McCain's.   BTW I didn't hear Nader say anything rascist.  Is it a secret that Obama is half black?   I didn't know that mentioning that is "playing the race card".

by vidiot (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 300 comments [10 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:15:42 AM

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about seriously replying here Dennis, but you are so far out to sea in a boat with no oars that to reply is a waste of  time.

by Jack Harrington (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 675 comments [68 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:58:45 AM

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One other point made by Dennis needs response as it is a common falsehood hurled at Nader.

Dennis asks: "How come you only hear from Nader every four years?"

It is not because Nader is not working every day - and I mean every day -- in between elections.  It is just that the media does not cover him or other progressive activists.  When Nader runs he gets attention because he has an impact. It is an opportunity to talk about issues being ignored by the other candidates, e.g. neither McCain or Obama will talk about single payer health care and why that is best; or how we can be a carbon free-nuclear free energy country; or how the defense budget can be cut and increase our safety - on and on -- there are many issues not discussed.

But, Nader is working on these issues all the time, not just during election years.

by Kevin Zeese (102 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 62 comments [13 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:27:04 AM

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IS THE CORPORATE SECTOR. Nader's terminology goes above some heads in the political world and most often, the right wing echochambers' short thinking.

The more I hear Obama flipflop as McCain has his flipflops, the more I think of them as fish out of water, at least, mainstream citizenry waters.

Nader is the best choice and most certainly many right repubs will be voting for Nader because they won't vote for a democrat, most certainly a black one with that ,,,,ah uh uh has that name(boogie boogie); furthermore, Democrats like me won't vote for status quo Obama. Young ppl I know that were campaigning for him are jumping the Obama ship for some of his flipfloppin reasons.

I wrote Howard Dean several months back and said that I predict this '08 election (if it occurs) will show a historic record amount of 3rd party or "other" votes, i.e., write-ins in our nations' history. I stand by my prediction to date.

Every week I get more disgusted with Obama's wavering. Who knows all those DC traitors various plots to cheat/swindled/decieve us Americans. They should be 'altered or abolished' because they HAVE become destructive beyond the ends. Hell, they have destroyed everything that empowers all of us. When is their next raise?

by shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 592 comments [98 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:58:48 AM

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