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Children Raped at Abu Ghraib, General Calls it a War Crime

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If so, then nothing is outlawed.

The Memo in question is Here (pdf), in it Yoo argues essentially that the Torture Statute only applies if you intent is to "cause severe physical harm" - but if you have some other reason/excuse, the law doesn't apply.

The infliction of pain must be the defendants precise objective.


Although the Torture Convention specifically argued that purposes of "pain inflicted for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person a confession of information... is prohibited" - Yoo tries to argue this away with the argument that words "specifically intended" are included within the ratification documentation of the treaty as approved by Congress.

He argued that since the intent was to gain information or cooperation from the subject, or even a third party as opposed to the simplistic sadistic goal of causing pain for it's own sake, it's legal.

Rob bank and keep the money = Illegal. Rob a bank and give the money to charity = Legal. Rape a child for shits and giggles = Illegal. Rape a child to get their parents to infiltrate the insurgency and report back to you = Legal.


Get it?

And since Yoo put this view into a memo and it was stamped as valid by the Justice Deptartment, it's pretty hard to argue complete ignorance when exactly what he wrote - is what happened in Iraq.

Maj Gen Taguba’s internal inquiry into the abuse at Abu Ghraib, included sworn statements by 13 detainees, which, he said in the report, he found “credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses.”

Among the graphic statements, which were later released under US freedom of information laws, is that of Kasim Mehaddi Hilas in which he says: “I saw [name of a translator] ******* a kid, his age would be about 15 to 18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn’t covered and I saw [name] who was wearing the military uniform, putting his **** in the little kid’s ***…. and the female soldier was taking pictures.”


Let me point out again, that various prior memos by Yoo claiming that Geneva didn't apply to the Taliban or al Qaeda were never written or amended to include civilians detained in Iraq who very clearly would be covered by Geneva and any actions such as these would clearly be - a War Crime!

General Taguba agrees:

Maj. Gen Taguba saw the horrors first hand during his Abu Ghraib investigation and he believes the Bush administration is guilty of war crimes.

In a preface to a report by Physicians for Human Rights on prisoner abuse and torture in U.S. military prisons Taguba wrote: "There is no longer any doubt that the current administration committed war crimes. The only question is whether those who ordered torture will be held to account."


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Waging Wars Of Agression by abe ramsay on Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 9:43:55 PM
What goes around comes around by Davey Jones on Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 10:47:16 PM
Memorial day by Jeff Harris on Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:25:16 PM
Where is General Anthony Taguba? by Davey Jones on Friday, May 29, 2009 at 12:10:26 AM
Face It; Americans are Free to Indulge in Evil Pleasures by Jason Paz on Friday, May 29, 2009 at 1:22:02 AM
Americans and Israelis are free to indulge in torture, Jason by Elizabeth Molchany on Friday, May 29, 2009 at 9:41:39 AM
Why Must You Link Every Wrong Doing to Israel? by Jason Paz on Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 3:53:10 AM
Elizabeth Molchany is Right On Topic by Tom Usher on Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 8:36:08 PM
Thank you, Tom by Elizabeth Molchany on Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 12:16:35 AM
Jason, I have had many, many arguments by Elizabeth Molchany on Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 12:11:25 AM
Not all, only the relevent ones. by Nathan Nahm on Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 4:25:46 AM
Why Must You Link Every Wrong Doing to Israel? by Jason Paz on Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 3:54:40 AM
Link by Mad Jayhawk on Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 11:57:23 AM
Dick and George are Sickos by Carter Calhoun on Friday, May 29, 2009 at 7:55:30 AM
Secret Ex. Order by carola perritte on Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 2:36:13 AM

 

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