they are madmen

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:27:42 AM

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Iran urges end to Iraq fighting, says helps US

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:43:23 AM

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none of the links to the original story from DPA or Okaz work now, so of course the story has lost any credibility in the *real* world. We have nothing but our words, blogs, etc...another way to make us all look crazy eh?

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:59:12 AM

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Simply put, crazy - good, insane- bad.

I've been telling people since we went into Afghanistan we'd wind-up in Iran and they called me crazy because that would be insane.

And I couldn't agree more.

I also hate being right.

I really don't know what the answer is, somehow, someway an attack on Iran has to be avoided. Because if not, the erosion we've seen so far of anything even resembling a so-called "free" country will cease to even be a pretence. And I don't know what we can do to stop it?

It's driving this crazy man insane. And I don't want to go there.

And I don't want to hear about contacting our so-called representatives, they don't even read the bills they're signing, why should I believe they'll listen to anything I have to say, unless of course it had a large cash donation attacked to it?

But seriously, this isn't funny. We go into Iran, it's over. That might be what do it, the real WWIII with it being America vs. World.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:59:43 PM

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...just dumb, because I had to retrieve it.

From my sweet neighbor who ususally sends dumb jokes that I don't open.

Is it possible that both the Saudis and the Russians are correct?  Where's Congress?  Where's a good revolting general?  Are the Russians going to have to step in and threaten to nuke us if we nuke Iran?

Maybe that's what Putin will tell the madman/men in the White House when they meet this week.

The email I opened at 2 a.m. Not a good way to start the day:

MOSCOW, March 27 (RIA Novosti) - Russian military intelligence services are reporting a flurry of activity by U.S. Armed Forces near Iran's borders, a high-ranking security source said Tuesday.

"The latest military intelligence data point to heightened U.S. military preparations for both an air and ground operation against Iran," the official said, adding that the Pentagon has probably not yet made a final decision as to when an attack will be launched.

He said the Pentagon is looking for a way to deliver a strike against Iran "that would enable the Americans to bring the country to its knees at minimal cost."

He also said the U.S. Naval presence in the Persian Gulf has for the first time in the past four years reached the level that existed shortly before the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.

Col.-Gen. Leonid Ivashov, vice president of the Academy of Geopolitical Sciences, said last week that the Pentagon is planning to deliver a massive air strike on Iran's military infrastructure in the near future.

by Sandy Sand (198 articles, 0 quicklinks, 227 diaries, 1548 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:25:46 AM

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although the top of page date was current the date of the news story s from a year ago.

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:30:28 AM

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by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:53:50 PM

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Munich, thanks for getting a good link.

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:24:32 AM

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Nuking Iran, declaring Martial Law, imprisoning us in the converted military bases (Gaylord in Michigan, near my cottage in Traverse City) they have created after "postponing" the national elections...  and on and on, etc

This is going to help my new book "We will Bear Witness" taken from a book by a man who wrote about the Nazi rise from the 1920's.

Nuking Iran is simply worth dying for to bring to the average persons attention. It is the smoking gun, or the defining moment. Is this the thing we can motivate the masses? If not, what else will there ever be? 

I love Rob and OP_ED and the people. But as Emerson said of Thoreau (and me).. oh read it yourself.

Average people hate us, and no amount of our brillant thoughts and writing will do anything until we understand, "the average guy/gal" needs an "OP_ED" too!

 Is there something OP_ED could do to simply go "Nuclear" and stake its future on simply using the Iran Nuke, Military-Civilian Jails, Local Federalization of Police and Corporations to marginalyze US citizens, and then Martial Law and suspension of elections, perhaps burning Congress. etc.

Lets make some decisions. Lets do something.

 We have the Power of the Myth, also.

Let us use it now, before it is too late.

OP_ED could be the key. It is the best, for the longest. but its rudder seems to never quite tack strasight (like mine)  [read Emerson on Thoreau, Rob] 

They can love us, but never like us. 

sincerely, and with great admiration and only positive intent (I apologyze if I hurt anyones feelings),

see my pictures at lookingglassstudio.net

I got rid of all my heavy stuff but see two of my poems somewhere in OP_ED. "The Christmas Tree" and " I know A Place".

I have another poem I wrote in 1986 that is definning. It even has a nuclear moment. I think I sent it to Mike.

The BackPackers Prayer.

I will help anyway I can. But no one likes me either.

Though I will be missed by many who know, we know.

They just are waiting for us to "define" the moment.

To create the "real" myth.

To bring back Cambells missing Heroes as he told Bill...

your friend always, respectfully,

 the Backpacker  backpack@voyager.net

by BackPacker (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 6:04:28 AM

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I said in October(07) that something was going to go down in April. I had enough information to determine this.

How will Russia and China deal with an attack that could possibly Block their energy sources?

Will this Iranian strike give Bush the Martial law he has been wanting so badly? He can cancel elections from what I can see within that act. He can lock us down.

Our soldiers in Iraq are in grave danger.

Dick and George and their ilk are such fools. Don't they know that nuclear fallout goes around the globe as it takes forever to break down uranium...forever. Einstein warned "not even for energy use" in his letter to FDR. Course we know dayallbee smarter den Einstein. Cheney/Bush and crew: Authors of the Law of stupidity.

And if it weren't for Nancy Pelosi, we could be having hearings preventing Bush and Dick from doing this!

by shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 592 comments [98 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:24:04 PM

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is in Iraq....

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:25:17 AM

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For the illegitimate executive branch of the United States to undertake a unilateral attack on another country with nuclear weapons is a criminal act that would be equivalent to any of the atrocities or pogroms undertaken by Hitler, Stalin or Mao Tse Dung.

If we as a people do not enforce justice for such a crime, it is likely that the world community of nations (which our government has damnably been endeavoring to distance us from) will enforce that justice.

Who will rid us of these madmen?

by John Sanchez Jr. (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 25 diaries, 1791 comments [148 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:25:51 PM

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everytime, and yet we do nothing effective in any way.

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:41:11 PM

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the American public is incapable of the job and need external help? Do you think externals would care about collateral dammages/casualties?

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:11:27 AM

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would likely view the event as the act of unrestrained madness that it is and move to provide their own defense against "with us or against us" unilateralists.

Whether We the People can effectively stand them down is an open issue with no clear trends showing.

by John Sanchez Jr. (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 25 diaries, 1791 comments [148 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:18:57 AM

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"prepare for radioactive fallout"?

by Robert Sargent (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 26 diaries, 318 comments) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:55:42 PM

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By staying indoors as it falls.

 By not drinking water that has absorbed the fallout.

By not consuming food that has been contaminated by said fallout.

by Richard Clark (30 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 101 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 1:48:20 PM

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Didn't you get the memo from Homeland Security?

Duct tape.

Glad plastic wrap.

Tuna and water under the bed.

by Sandy Sand (198 articles, 0 quicklinks, 227 diaries, 1548 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 6:20:00 PM

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I had heard something about this the other day but wasn't able to find anything.

Colonel Kurtz is about to reach the end of the river...

EE 

by Ed Encho (12 articles, 20 quicklinks, 65 diaries, 438 comments [14 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:07:42 PM

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Impeachment is threatened 'after the fact' of an attack on Iran.  As usual, the toothless dog Democrats bluster and at the end of the day run for cover.  I'd say screw 'em, but it is us that is going to be paying the bill.  Us and the Iranians, who suprisingly happen to be human beings also.  

by Roger (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 465 comments [22 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:07:44 PM

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by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:37:12 PM

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Humans are doing their damndest to rid the planet of the failure species!

by Daniel Geery (26 articles, 95 quicklinks, 126 diaries, 912 comments [26 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:20:54 PM

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The building of nuclear weapons brought an end to any legal basis of government that previously existed here in this Old Crown colony called America.

The decision was made long ago to burn up the human race in an all out surprise attack upon us. We have been sucker punched many times over the decades with the use of nuclear weapons.

We are clearly, THE LIVING DEAD.

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by Patrick (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 519 comments [22 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:28:45 PM

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Very interesting article.  With the escalation of activity in the Basra region of Iraq and the border-closing demarche by the Iraqi governent, it's a safe bet that an aerial bombardment is close.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the Anglo-American forces march troops into the Khuzestan province of Iran to subjugate the area and occupy the Arab, oil-rich province.  With that stroke the Iranian Republic could be brought to submission.  Iran would lose it's Shiite stronghold in the south as well as it's primary border-crossing area.  If one includes the Turkish shelling of the Kurdish north of Iraq and the 2006 Israeli War with Lebanon, the region has been prepared for this action by NATO for quite some time. 

by ThePrize (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 7 comments) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:55:21 PM

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we can stop this with simple thought or prayers--whether you believe in god or quantum phisics it works---every night pray or think that the nukes will not fire and their owners re-think the killing of humanbeings-and you want a safe world for your fellow man and yourself which u deserve----------or sit back and ride the hell ound train

by TRADESMAN (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 335 comments [40 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:42:14 PM

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This may sound crazy, but in desperation, I've been thinking about setting up a website to target one bloodthirsty fascist at a time, with the attention of as much of the world as possible.

The idea would be to get millions (or better yet, tens of millions) of people all over the world to concentrate on removing that one evil, malignant cell from the body of humanity...to induce an "apoptosis" of sorts.

I don't know if there really is such a thing as "collective psychokinesis" or "focused group energy", but IIRC, there is some anecdotal evidence in support.

Cheney would perhaps be the ideal first subject for such an experiment.

by Harold Smith (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 556 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 9:54:06 PM

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 DONT YOU AND ME THINK IT'S TIME TO (OVERTHROW THIS GOVERNMENT). Cpngress and tje Senate go along with the King George Bush. nobody care's about humanity. time to break out of this god crap of this mad man administration. these republicans are LUNITIC'S. WORLD WAR IIIJUST LIKE THEY PREDICTED. WERE IS THE REBELLION. if you all want to die then keep on doing nothing.

by vincent passiatore (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 185 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 8:11:51 PM

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Folks, don't energize the nigtmare--envision whatever will not only prevent it, but picture and energize a beautiful sceario in its place. We do create the reality we occupy----make sure your thougts are full of Light and Love!

by Char Stellamaris (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 37 comments) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 8:18:06 PM

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REQUIEM

The crucified planet Earth,
should it find a voice
and a sense of irony,
might now well say
of our abuse of it,
"Forgive them, Father,
They know not what they do."

The irony would be
that we know what
we are doing.

When the last living thing
has died on account of us,
how poetical it would be
if Earth could say,
in a voice floating up
perhaps
from the floor
of the Grand Canyon,
“It is done.”
People did not like it here.

- Kurt Vonnegut (2005)

by Edward Ulysses Cate (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 232 comments [9 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 8:58:20 PM

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All armed, all able to function automonously until we can communicate between each cell without interference.

To take control of the country, we need to control the energy and communications infrastructure.   We need to secure clean air, water, food and healthcare, in that order using the energy and communications infrastructures.

We secure the local police SWAT HQ's, then the FBI and ATF HQ's.  Because the National Guard Reserves are likely deployed or filled with friendlies, we can probably safely avoid trying to secure these areas of security infrastructure.

Then we need to control all avenues of retaliation and counter-insurgency.

What this means is that we need to keep the web and TV up, using TV to misdirect unfriendlies and the web to direct the recruitment of further friendly forces.

Nukes headed for the middle east, if they aren't already there, will exit the country through Barksdale AFB in Louisiana.  That makes Barksdale and surrounding environs a high-value target.

California, Colorado, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, Maryland and Florida all contain high-value targets that have to be either pinned-down or controlled.

A force of 50,000 controls 1,000 targets.  5,000 -- 100 targets.  We just need a general blueprint for taking over any city in the US and leave the details to each set of cells.

Communications, energy, clean air, clean water, clean food and healthcare.

Every AFB in the country has a communications squadron that will be highly secured using multiple barricades and, usually, a diesel generator that operates outside the immediate perimeter of the building as a UPS (power supply).

Every city in the country has a cable television hub that can be used for internet traffic and local TV.  The same is true for telephone traffic.  Power may be more decentralized.

Security has to be neutralized starting with local SWAT teams and working up towards FBI and ATF squadrons.

So....if you want to get serious about revolution, these are just a few of the considerations that need to be addressed.

Obviously, once any insurgency captures a high value target and controls it for more than 48 hours, there's a pretty good chance that whatever sympathetic forces operating within the existing military will be galvanized and mobilized to come to our aid.

Therefore it is only necessary to capture ONE target, if that target is sufficiently valuable.

I'd pick Petersen AFB in Colorado.  And NORAD.  Throw 500 at this target and take it over completely within hours provided that you have access to enough unindoctrinated former employees to locate all the key pieces of infrastructure at the base.

Hold this target for 2 to 5 days and use the assets available to mobilize sympathetic forces within the military to take over the Pentagon and the US government infrastructure.  This will effectively neutralize Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush.  Which leaves Pelosi in charge.  She will either come along quietly or we will find someone who will to act as the civilian authority in charge.

Able to think outside the box?  Wondering what you'll need to do to take a leave of absence from work?  Wondering which grocery store you'll be able to shop at, which hospitals you'll use?  Water?  Food?  Energy?

If a fuse accidently blown can immobilize most of New York City, there's a way to immobilize the military. 

But you DO have to be crazy.  That is essential.

by Richard Volaar (39 articles, 0 quicklinks, 150 diaries, 477 comments [63 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:06:09 PM

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The occupants in the White House are criminally insane. From day one in office they have been hellbent on fullfilling biblical scripture and bringing forth the end times. They had plans on the table for Afganistan and Iraq right after moving into the White House. Impeachment must begin now, right along with a new, truthful 911 investigation.  Lets not let them murder anymore innocent human beings. It's up to us. The man upstairs is keeping watch and we can't remain silent to this evil. There are things worse then going to a FEMA prison...it's called Karma.

by ronheri (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 256 comments [45 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:52:37 PM

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that by continuing on the *impeach* train we are going to get an impeachment?

Clarify please in comparison to what some of the others are saying.

Thanks. 

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:07:34 AM

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Don't mourn for an event that has not happened yet.

Let all us at OpEdNews set our intention that we will not allow this to happen.

by Mac McKinney (53 articles, 113 quicklinks, 240 diaries, 1413 comments [31 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:09:16 PM

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Mac, those are great words, but what are you suggesting?

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:08:27 AM

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Mac's diary post here wrt russian news...

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:16:34 AM

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ok call me paranoid, but...hold on a second...a thought...

WHY would the Saudi's print this story? That would surely tip off Iran...US and Saudi have been in cahoots for ages...so...is it possible....maybe...this story...is COINTELPRO...in order to GET US to DO something so they CAN declare martial Law and use the camps and suspend the election? 

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:55:40 AM

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Although the Kuwait and U.S. military are fully preparing for such an event right now, the NEWSPAPERS IN KUWAIT  do not cover such things--not wanting to freak out the local citizenry.

by ALONE (196 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 557 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:35:22 AM

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so why dd Saud print it?

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:20:39 AM

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For one thing, the Russians would not sit idly by to watch their business blown into pieces for no good reason. In fact, a US attack would probably avoid the Bushehr nuclear plant because it has no enrichment facility. Fuel comes in from Russia and the waste goes back to Russia too. The fallout on US allies is another reason they would not attack this power generating facility.

Also, the way things have turned out in Iraq and how Ahmadinejad was so openly welcomed in Iraq under direct US occupation shows that things are quite rosy between the 3 unpopular regimes (US, Iraq & Iran) behind the scenes. 

Moreover, all the noise about Iran's nuclear programme in terms of her IAEA reporting relate to activities before 2003 when Iran approached the IAEA for technical support. Negotiations were suspended by Iran in 2005 because the US reneged on incentives agreed with the EU. There is no indication that Iran is building a bomb and the US knows this too well.

What Bush is doing is continuing his fear mongering to keep the US public on its toes and the Republicans in power. But the current broke status of the US economy and the clear weaknesses of the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan make an attack on Iran virtually impossible, and the US military would never go along with it. 

Concentrating the US navy in the Persian Gulf prior to an attack on Iran makes little sense too because Iran has the capability to destroy most of the US fleet nearby with Russian missiles supplied to Iran and designed specifically for the purpose. 

Closure of the Iraqi border with Iran makes sense in the context of a pre-planned attack by the US & Iraqi gov on Al Sadr's militias with Iranian support. Al Sadr has made the 'mistake' of opposing all foreign influence in Iraq be it Iranian or American. He wishes for a non-sectarian and strong central state in Iraq, and is strongly opposed to the privatisation of Iraq's oil. A new troop 'surge' is likely needed by the US as this latest upsurge in fighting is likely to end in a full-scale civil war between the collaborators and nationalists in Iraq regardless of their religious affiliations, despite the predominant caricature. 

Under these circumstances, the US cannot afford to open a new front with Iran, and frantic negotiations are going on behind the scenes to come to an agreement while both sides save face in the public arena with useless vitriol. 

There is no nuclear war in the offing. The main issue remains US occupation of Iraq and the genocide of innocent Iraqis. 

by Niloufar Parsi (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 83 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:11:53 AM

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Your bringing up rational arguments as to why they won't attack Iran - there's only one problem, these are not rational people.

The military has been all but purged of anyone that would challenge bush&co. - they will do what they are ordered to do.

Attacking Iran makes perfect sense to those who wish to hasten a police state. Coupled with economic collapse any riots will be quelled using the latest crowd control weapons, if we're catapulted into a world-wide war so be it, all the better for forced conscription and slave labor. I wouldn't at all surprised that it was the plan all along and that those that we would be fighting are in it with bush&co.. The masses mean nothing to the elites who run  things and know that the Earth is overpopulated and in dire need of a major weeding-out. There would be nothing better to do this than a protracted world-war.

Anyone that says that this can't happen has lost sight of history. It's happened before and is happening now, only now it's on a much grander scale. Everything necessary for this to happen is in place. And after all that these cretins have gotten away with so far, stolen elections, 9/11, Iraq, treason, genocide, to name just a few, what or who is there to stop them? They're enabled and emboldened. The public and so-called experts in government are deluded, distracted and are to busy scrambling to save their butts to be paying attention to what's going on or to have any inclination on how to stop it. Even though it's so damn obvious to what's happening.

And that certainly is what they are - obvious. At least to anyone who is paying attention. Just like it was obvious with Iraq. They aren't placing troops at the border of Iran, additional ships, having cheney making deals, bush frequently trying to shut down Iran's banking system, Betrayus spreading propaganda and all the "usual suspects" ratcheting up war talk for nothing. There has been nothing to deter them from their original goal of destroying America and forming a One-World Government, so I see no reason why they shouldn't at this point push even harder - because I repeat, who is going to stop them?

Their time is short and they haven't come this far just to stop and hand everything over to anyone who would slow-up their plans. There isn't even any talk about this happening and yet it's happening right in front of us. Every ones distracted with elections, $4 gas and March Madness as these cretins are preparing to flip the switch that will open the trap-door to Hell.

So your argument falls flat that we won't attack Iran by just looking at Iraq. I can remember a time 6 years ago when people were saying we wouldn't attack Iraq for all the same reasons they're saying now for why we won't attack Iran. And there was more attention being paid to that then there is now.

We're going to attack - and you can bet your life on it - literally

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:46:41 AM

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those who are responsible SAID they would do all this.

We cannot separate the PNAC and their published RAD doc from current history.

Iran IS on the table, has ALWAYS been on the table under this US regime and their publshed intent has ALWAYS been "simultaneous, multiple theater wars in the middle east" to show america's might for intimdaton purposes, to "control their resources".

anyone who tries to brush that fact aside is foolish considering who the authors are paired with what they have already done. The RAD doc is like a *to do* list and they are checking things off one by one.

BIG freakin sigh!

V 

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:28:45 AM

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The attack, invasion and continuing occupation of Iraq only makes "sense" in one context: as part of a larger plan of aggression, primarily aimed at Iran.

The essence of that plan is spelled out in documents at the PNAC web site.

Moreover, Bush's PNAC handlers have encouraged such overt criminality, all along the way, that Bush et al. may now be "trapped" by their culpability into following the plan to the "end"...or at least to the point of a complete police state.

Indeed, part of the objective of the 911 false flag attack may have been to deliberately implicate Bush et al., as an insurance policy in case Bush et al. got cold feet. (In fact, I've long wondered if that wasn't part of the reason that WTC7 was brought down; what with the publicly incriminating statements made by Silverstein, the obvious foreknowledge displayed at the scene, the CNN and BBC collapse announcement before it actually happened, and the fact that the building apparently had some sensitive, high level government offices, etc.; 911, and WTC7 particularly, is in essence a "Sword of Damocles" hanging over the Bush/Cheney terror team's heads).

by Harold Smith (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 556 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:00:53 PM

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by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:31:38 AM

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by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:56:12 PM

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our military's mind set is that they (most) believe in what they are doing. So that being said, how does one get them to turn the tide in our favor to protect us as a people HERE? Keep in mind that for a while now they have been trained to kill America's when deemed *necessary* by their Commander in Chief.

Honestly, it is very hard for me to see an alternative outside of a real revolution. One led and won by *The People*...yet, what are the means and methods when our own have been made our enemy? 

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:56:32 PM

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I would like to know how other people in this online progressive community are coping psychologically with this terrifying new development. The Saudis would not have issued such an emergency warning if an attack were not probable, or even imminent.

I am a teacher of horseback riding for the abled and handicapped in California, and have just emailed emergency preparation information to our riding program board members and parents, as well as personal friends.

Please share your thoughts. I have written about national security subjects in both plays and articles for many years,including "Facing Nuclear War", which was published by Op-Ed News. Now that the possibility has escalated, I am terribly concerned.

by Kari Ann Owen (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 5 comments) on Sunday, Mar 30, 2008 at 4:32:56 PM

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Do you think that Bush and the rest of his monarchy will quietly step down from power? Speculation is that he's planning to attack Iran to declare martial law and cancel the election: see Youtube: "Will Bush Cancel The 2008 Election?"

Many times I hope some country will attack us (and no I'm not talking some gonvernment-sponsored, covered-up 9/11) so the government would know how it feels to have their lives in danger. I hate to say it, but an eye for an eye is the only way some people will learn.

by Doosen Tachia (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 8 comments) on Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:56:29 AM

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