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April 21, 2008 at 18:43:49

Headlined on 4/21/08:
What About the War, Benedict?

by Ray McGovern     Page 1 of 5 page(s)

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Pope Benedict XVI arrived in Washington last week against a macabre backdrop featuring reports of torture, execution, and war.  He chose not to notice.

Torture:  Fresh reporting by ABC from inside sources depicted George W. Bush’s most senior aides (Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Rice, and Tenet) meeting dozens of times in the White House during 2002/03 to sort out the most efficient mix of torture techniques for captured “terrorists.”



When initially ABC attempted to insulate the president from this sordid activity, Bush abruptly bragged that he knew all about it and approved.  That comment and the
action memorandum Bush signed on Feb. 7, 2002] dispelled any lingering doubt regarding his personal responsibility for authorizing torture.

Execution:  Meanwhile, the Supreme Court with a majority of judges calling themselves Catholic, was openly deliberating on whether one gram, or two, or perhaps three of this or that chemical would be the preferred way to execute people.  Always colorful prominent Catholic layman Antonin Scalia complained impatiently, “Where does it say in the Constitution that executions have to be painless?”

Scalia did not seem at all concerned that the pope might remind him and his Catholic colleagues about the Church’s teaching on capital punishment; i.e., the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity “are very rare, if not practically non-existent.”

It was enough to bring this student of German history (and five-year resident there) vivid memories of frequenting those places where precisely these kinds of torture and execution policies were conducted at similarly high levels by Hitler’s inner circle—yes, including judges.

War:  Can the pope possibly be so suffused with his peculiar brand of theology that he is oblivious to what happened when he was a young man during the Third Reich.

Is it possible that papal advisers forgot to tell him that the post-WW II Nuremberg Tribunal described an unprovoked war of aggression, of the kind that the Third Reich and George W. Bush launched, as the “supreme international crime, differing from other war crimes only in that it contains the accumulated evil of the whole?”  Could they have failed to tell the pope he would be hobnobbing with war criminals, torturers, and the enabling cowards in Congress who refuse to remove them from office?

For this Catholic, it was a profoundly sad spectacle—profoundly sad.  Not since WW II, when the Reich’s bishops swore personal oaths of allegiance to Hitler (as did the German Supreme Court and army generals) have the papacy and bishops acted in such a fawning, un-Christ-like way.

During the Thirties, with very few exceptions, the bishops (Catholic and Evangelical Lutheran) collaborated with the Nazis.  Meanwhile, Hamlet-like Pius XII kept trying to make up his mind as to whether he should put the Catholic Church at some risk, while Jews were being murdered by the thousands.

Albert Camus

In 1948, in the shadow of that monstrous world war, the French author/philosopher  Albert Camus accepted an invitation from the Dominican Monastery of Latour-Maubourg.  To their credit, the Dominicans wanted to know what an “unbeliever” thought about Christians in the light of their behavior during the Thirties and Forties.  Camus’ words seem so terribly relevant today that it is difficult to trim them:

“For a long time during those frightful years I waited for a great voice to speak up in Rome.  I, an unbeliever?  Precisely.  For I knew that the spirit would be lost if it did not utter a cry of condemnation.

“It has been explained to me since, that the condemnation was indeed voiced.  But that it was in the style of the encyclicals, which is not all that clear.  The condemnation was voiced and it was not understood.  Who could fail to feel where the true condemnation lies in this case?

“What the world expects of Christians is that Christians should speak out, loud and clear, and that they should voice their condemnation in such a way that never a doubt, never the slightest doubt, could rise in the heart of the simplest man.  That they should get away from abstraction and confront the blood-stained face history has taken on today. (emphasis added)

 “It may be… that Christianity will insist on maintaining a compromise, or else on giving its condemnations the obscure form of the encyclical.  Possibly it will insist on losing once and for all the virtue of revolt and indignation that belonged to it long ago.

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Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, the publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in Washington, DC. During his 27-years as a CIA analyst, he chaired NIEs: he is now on the Steering Group of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).

 

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Wolfie

Cardinal Rottweiler is now a poodle

War is good! Just ask Halliburton, Dynacorp, Northrup, and so many other fine businesses that are ethical and pure. Exxon-Mobil may make a bissel on the conflicts to gas up the Hummers and Tanks, but that is just business.

You stupid idiots who would prevent businesses from prospering because you choose not to keep us in per-PET-ual battles necessary to keep kapitalists free from want!  Stop it now before I see a recession striking the C E O's that have devoted their lives to the bottom line.

It costs money, lots of it ,to line the pockets of politicians and judges to see the true legacy of the Vanderbilts and Rockefellers, the Warburgs and Rothschildes, and all the Nobler Barons of the distant past.

Forget the wasteful money that could have been spent to pay for FDA, GAO, FCC, and SEC. Just keep shoveling it in as this administration has continuously, so business will prevail.

The small cost of  thousands dead, hundreds of thousands wounded, are a small price to pay for industry to be victorious.

 

Wolfie is PET-ulant that the petty people are not servile enough for the wants of the big dog!

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 1034 comments) on Monday, April 21, 2008 at 10:14:18 PM
 


Writer/Photographer. Advocate for clean government, media reform and civil liberties. Chair of the PDA-SJ Impeachment Team and co-leader of the NJ Impeach Groups. Writer and managing editor for OpEdNews.com. cherylbirenwright.wordpress.com
Cheryl Biren-WrightWriter/Photographer. Advocate for clean government, media reform and civil liberties. Chair of the PDA-SJ Impeachment Team and co-leader of the NJ Impeach Groups. Writer and managing editor for OpEdNews.com. cherylbirenwright.wordpress.com

The Berrigans

Can a Pope be impeached? Just kidding. . . sort of.

While many of us continue to speak out, sit-in, and rise up, I do wonder - where are today's Berrigan brothers? NRCAT does a good job of educating and lobbying, but we could use more "people of faith" willing to stick their necks out like the Catholic Left did during Vietnam. The Catholic Schoolgirls stepped up and the media demonized them and they're facing felony charges. What would happen if a few priests started taking direct action? Might we see a different response? Maybe.

I had the pleasure, Ray, of hearing you speak recently while I was vacationing near Phoenix. The question that was on my mind that night is this:  What would you say is the closest institution we have today that rivals the draft board during Vietnam? Many, including the Catholic Left, were able to zero in on that successfully because it had the ability to send shockwaves all the way to the top. Would appreciate your insights on that.

We should increase actions against our members of Congress right now, but we need to figure out what to do about the complicit media. They either ignore or dismiss it. Maybe it's time groups start some direct action at media outlets...

I will leave readers with this: Father Michael Doyle, a member of the Camden 28 (still tending to a parish a few miles from me in Camden) said this about their actions 37 years ago at the Federal Building:

"What do you do when a child is on fire? We saw children on fire. What do you do when a child is on fire in a war that was a mistake? What do you do... like, write a letter?" [Camden 28 trailer]

by Cheryl Biren-Wright (17 articles, 15 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 298 comments) on Monday, April 21, 2008 at 11:47:26 PM
 



Wolfie

Bless you!

How can Thou shall not kill be unlistened to and the din of the church and synagogues for kill! kill! kill! be accepted as tenet?

 

wolfie wishes to explain that he only hears the lord from a dog whistle. Toot- it's Yah-weh.

 

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 1034 comments) on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 12:48:59 AM
 


Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.
Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.

The Devil's In Town

I wasn't more than 100 yards away from bush today. He was right across the street. Must have been 2,000 police, troopers and soldiers, not to mention an army of undercover agents protecting our "Torturer in Chief".

It was surreal, my mind and soul are still burning furiously over last weeks disclosures, and to think that this vile, vapid excuse of a humane-being was within shouting distance, dining on a gourmet meal we paid for, and picking his teeth with bones of the dead he's responsible for, has had me in a state of rage all day. It's a wonder I wasn't stopped at least once as I had occasion to pass very close to manned barricades all day, and unable to control myself let fly with some verbal barbs that drew stares.

I was disappointed that there was no protests of any kind. Downtown New Orleans isn't all that big and for where bush was staying 5,000 hard-core protesters could of boxed him in. Granted they would of faced the combined might of above mentioned forces, but what a show it would be! But as far as I know, I was the only one voicing any descent, as feeble as I alone may be.

And what a shame. For it seems Mr. McGovern is making a call that if we don't stand-up now to this tyranny, we'll forever be put down. And yet, there I was today, the only other person I saw up-set about bush being in town was upset, not because he's a war criminal, but, because streets were blocked-off and she couldn't get where she wanted to go with-out taking a detour.

"The Torturer" will be around tomorrow. I'll try to see if there is any organized demonstrations, but I doubt it - this week-end is Jazz Fest, and for the City of New Orleans it's the crowning jewel of the world's music festivals, only equal to Mardi Gras, and when it's a choice between politics and party, in this city, it's no contest.

But soon the party will end. Soon all the bad things people only hear about on the fringe,  see on TV and read about in their media aren't going to be so abstract - soon all the horror that bush and his ilk are brewing in large batches is going to spill into all our lives, and there won't be enough music in the world to drown out screams of those that will fall pray to the torturers whip.

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 1153 comments) on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 1:31:23 AM
 


August Adams is a CPA and holds a Masters Degree in Psychology. He is an activist striving to create a fair and just world for all.
August AdamsAugust Adams is a CPA and holds a Masters Degree in Psychology. He is an activist striving to create a fair and just world for all.

Bush - Repulsed

I'd have joined you in the barbs... and on the thought about the 5000 protesters - by now I would have thought that anywhere Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al were travel to they would met with huge overwhelming protests...  I don't understand how it fails to happen...  I know a lot of outraged people - but maybe we're all just looking for a way to act - that - a way we can participate.

The internet is great - but it's so completely invisible to the "masses".

We need some way to build a visible national coast to coast presence... 

by August Adams (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 425 comments) on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 1:43:43 PM
 


American Expat in Asia
pftAmerican Expat in Asia

Holy Cow Batman

I love these psyop pieces, great Satire.

"..state plainly what 109 bishops of the Methodist faith, George W. Bush’s tradition...." 

GWB's tradition.  LOL.

There is obviously a divide and rule strategy to get Christians fighting like the Shia and Sunni do.  BTW, a similar article using the word "Jew" or "Zi*nist" gets labelled as a hate crime.  I get warned before posting a comment with this word in it since it might be "hurtful".

Besides, we all know who controls the Vatican and the Pope today.  WTF do you think happened to Pope John Paul I and his sidekicks.  He was the ultraliberal Pope who lasted 33 days, repeat, 33, days, before being taken out in 1978, and then Pope John Paul II, the ultraconservative Pope gets voted in, and 1.4 billion dollars disappears (had to buy his way in I guess).

In 1958 they strong armed 53 conservative cardinals into voting for an unknown cardinal who happened to be a secret liberal.  He repealed the ban on Masonry, was said to be a former Mason himself, liberalized the Church with Vatican II and liberal Cardinals and Bishops infiltrated the Church and protected those pedophile Priests.  Interesting how the first and only Catholic ever elected to office, despite making up 20% of the population was assassinated.  Who did the KKK target in the early 20th century:  catholics, jews and blacks.  Who was behind the KKK?  Guess.  Who killed JFK?  Same people.  Call them what you will, Illuminati or whatever they call themselves, but they are behind the Globalization and fascism of today.   

What is the difference between the liberal and conservative cardinals and popes?  One wanted to make contraceptives ok for Catholics  and make women more equal in the Church.  This interfered with our genocidal plans in the 3rd world. So since then, what have we got, 2 conservative Popes with connections to the Nazi's.  Today, Pope John Paul II cleaned out all the liberal Cardinals, but if St Malachies prophecies are to come true, Ratzinger or the next Pope will be the last.  I do not believe in prophecies, yet they can be self fulfilling.

I am not religious, but you know those Christian Zi*nists who support what is going on in Iraq, I got news for you, most of them ain't Catholics.

When I look for who is behind conspiracy, I look at which groups get away from all the sh*t throwing with nary a drop on them, and where Fox and CNN talk with one voice.   

Oh, and one more thing, Pope John  XXIII, he witheld the 3rd secret of the Lady of Fatima, which was supposed to be released in 1960.  Instead it was delayed until 2000, and what was released appeared to many to be not the real secret .  Here is what it it predicted, according to some interpretations, one year before 9/11.

"The fulfillment of the Third Fatima Secret begins the destruction of the papacy and the man who spiritually holds one billion souls ransom by claiming to be the Vicar of Christ. The same goes for Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Sikhs and others. All humans must be set free from the shackles of organized religions first because the later will not set them free to take part in the Last Judgment. The pope holds the maximum of God's children in spiritual ransom. That is why it is necessary that he is destroyed first.."

It also showed a city with big buildings that were destroyed. 

So how convenient our man OBL, who is said to have knocked down a few big buildings,  has also threatened the Pope.  I mean, Hollywood must have written this script.  Wonder how they stage the rapture (I wonder what those airplane inspections all about).  I read LaHays books just for the heck of it.

That FLDS scam is simply another staged event to  discredt religion, and exercise governments right to break up families.  I am not religous, but believe in Freedom of and from religion.  Imagine, the leaders of the FLDS have Pentagon contracts.  It's hilarious. LOL. 

So you see, we are not in a War on Terror. It is simply a War on Religion, and they will give us a Tribulation so those Left behind accept it as a prohecy being fulfilled.  And then we get One World Totalitarian government.   In the world of the Old testament, (I had to read that too), for those whom interpret it literally, as many non-Catholics seem to do, at least those who believe in creationism, we see a world where god permits slavery, parents give away their male children to the temple, animal sacrifice is required, polygamy is allowed, that children born as little girls, like animals, were mans property and must serve their master, obviously a man (I am a guy but....).  This might be what the future looks like.

But we might be on an intergalactic tv miniseries, so try to play your part, and just go along like a nice sheep to the slaughter.  Those who survive to becomes slaves, good luck.

by pft (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 296 comments) on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 3:13:32 AM
 


August Adams is a CPA and holds a Masters Degree in Psychology. He is an activist striving to create a fair and just world for all.
August AdamsAugust Adams is a CPA and holds a Masters Degree in Psychology. He is an activist striving to create a fair and just world for all.

Summoning Courage - Local Strong Consistent Action

Excellent Article.

Where are all the spiritual leaders on this ongoing occupation and patently illegal war of aggression?  I can't help but wonder why there isn't more condemnation in the International Community.  Clearly, based on international law, this country has committed war crimes and crimes against humanity.  We should be judged harshly and so should every group, terrorist organization or nation that uses aggression as a tool of diplomacy.

It seems to me that in order for our representatives to understand the anger and feel the courage of everyone in this country, we need to start acting peacefully demonstrating on a more consistent level locally.  Churches, schools, activist organizations should be organizing around every congressional districts home office.  We should have consistent daily "End the War", "Hold them Accountable" peaceful and assemblies in highly visible locations in every town, village and city across the nation.

I think we somehow need consistent on-going local visible places to be seen - in places our elected officials cannot possibly ignore.  Rotating action - that involves a visible group that grows over time.  

In Corvallis, Oregon, in front of the City Hall, there is a peace protest with people rotating every night.  They have been there since prior to the invasion and they have continued a rotational presence there everyday since.

None of us can be at our representatives offices 24/7/365 but collectively, we can.

I think we must begin to organize an ongoing 24/7/365 visible protest.

We need a new model, that becomes so large that the it doesn't matter any more if the MSM ignores us.  So large that they cannot make the demonstrations disappear down a rabbit hole.

I'm angry, summoning up the courage to act.  Have written the letters, gone to "meetings" at our representatives office (with no representative present and a 6 week delay in their response).

What efforts and how can we mobilize more consistent ongoing peaceful demonstrations?

We can't all go everyday, but most of us could carve out a few hours a week if the actions were local...  maybe we can get to 24/7/365 together...

by August Adams (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 425 comments) on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 1:34:23 PM
 


Richard Mynick is a US citizen who, despite the best efforts of the corporate media, noticed something disturbing about how the 2000 election was decided, & felt it augured poorly for democracy.
Richard MynickRichard Mynick is a US citizen who, despite the best efforts of the corporate media, noticed something disturbing about how the 2000 election was decided, & felt it augured poorly for democracy.

I guess "His Holiness" can't be bothered with "minor issues"

like torture & American war crimes. Bush & Benedict are a good pair -- the one is about as much a "spiritual leader" as the other is a statesman.

by Richard Mynick (2 articles, 3 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 1058 comments) on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 2:56:29 PM
 


Bia Winter is an Artist/Writer from Maine, and has been an activist and letter-writer since the 60's. In 2004 she received the Roger Baldwin Award from the Maine American Civil Liberties Union for furthering Democracy after she got a Resolution Against the USA"Patriot"Act passed in her small home town of Mount Vernon, by overwhelming show-of-hands vote at Town Meeting. She continues to Write, Activate and Cartoon for Progressive causes. Her Letters are often seen in the Baltimore Chronicle, as w...

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Bia WinterBia Winter is an Artist/Writer from Maine, and has been an activist and letter-writer since the 60's. In 2004 she received the Roger Baldwin Award from the Maine American Civil Liberties Union for furthering Democracy after she got a Resolution Against the USA"Patriot"Act passed in her small home town of Mount Vernon, by overwhelming show-of-hands vote at Town Meeting. She continues to Write, Activate and Cartoon for Progressive causes. Her Letters are often seen in the Baltimore Chronicle, as w...

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2012

Pretty shameful, isn't it?
And in regards to the previous big weekend of "God and Politics" debates on CNN et al:
I guess if I was to ask the Candidates ONE big Religious/Moral question, it would be,

What's the deal with this 2012 thing?
Do you, (and does your religion) believe these "End Times" prophecies about that date?
Because if you DO, Mr, Madam, candidates, HOW can we expect you, as president, to do
anything constructive about AVERTING this damnation, which surely will include Nuclear War,
rather than simply helping this to become a self-fulfilling prophecy by your actions?

BW
(at 2012 North Rd.!)

by Bia Winter (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 211 comments) on Friday, April 25, 2008 at 9:30:06 AM
 

 

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