I owe Robert Fisk an apology. He began a thread on Truthdig.com called, "Questioning 9/11 with Caution" where he essentially (and cautiously) mentioned some of the "ravers" involved in the 9/11 for Truth movement. While in there, I came in direct contact with some of these ravers(to be polite) and began to question and research some of the data they were presenting. What I came up with were some pretty interesting morsels. Perhaps even boulders!
For example, some(not all) of the so called 9/11 conspiracy theorists have ties to Lyndon LaRouche, the same guy who said MI-6 was trying to assassinate him and that the Beatles were a creation of Britain’s Defense Ministry. He also said the Queen of England was the biggest dope peddler on the planet and that Britain, (not Hitler) was responsible for the second world war.
What really got me interested in the sources of some of these more radical "truth seekers," was another dig with Amy Goodman, where a raver was chastising her, literally calling her a cog in the Bush cover-up of 9/11 because she interviewed Ward Churchill, rather then the leader of the 9/11 for Truth movement, Dr. Steven E. Jones. This was when I discovered Webster Griffin Tarpley, an author and historian best known for his book, "George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography" and a member of the Scholars for 9/11 Truth (among other affiliations). He was also a key component to the Lyndon LaRouche political movement and in fact ran for the state senate in New York and lost.
"From 1991 to 1995, Tarpley worked with the political movement run by Lyndon LaRouche, and was a frequent host of “The LaRouche Connection” described as “a news and information cable television program produced by” LaRouche’s Executive Intelligence Review News Service."
The tactics of LaRouche (as seen back in the 1970's), using his so called "new left" to attack other leftist elements, (I mean even physically beating them up), is what really caught my attention on these current so called truth seekers, who were in essence using what I thought to be the Lyndon LaRouche playbook, pretending to be left while attacking the left. It's like taking the entire political philosophy of neo-liberal David Horowitz, molding his beginnings with Maoist Marxism to his current neo-conservatism into one big ugly ball of play dough and presto! We'll come back to Mr. Horowitz later.
Next we come to the prolific Christopher Bollyn, an author who in fact exposed a Reader's Digest article about illegal government surveillance which actually praised the notion, as coming from none other than the cousin of Michael Chertof, head of Homeland Security. Now this expose' was great and I thank Mr. Bollyn for it. However, the reason I refer to him as prolific (beyond his outward appearance as a hard working reporter/journalist) is in the revelation as to whom he has worked for. Among others the American Free Press which seems to have shared the same offices as, "The Barnes Review."
Just to give you some examples:
The American Free Press "The fact that Bollyn is extensively sourced in 9/11 skeptics’ literature, combined with the fact that his employer, the American Free Press, has extreme right associations, gives defenders of the official 9/11 myth effective ammunition with which to attack their critics. Although publications of the American Free Press are generally free of racist, white-supremicist, or anti-Semitic content, its sister publication, The Barnes Review overtly promotes such ideologies. Consider the following facts:
The Barnes Review praises Hitler as deserving of the Nobel Prize The American Free Press and The Barnes Review share the same address The American Free Press and The Barnes Review promote each other Christopher Bollyn has been a guest on David Duke’s show a number of times The American Free Press was founded by Right Wing ideologue Willis Carto." "Carto (born July 17, 1926 in Indiana) is a longtime figure on the far right wing of American politics. He describes himself as Jeffersonian and populist, although the Anti-Defamation League and other critics say he promotes thinly-disguised antisemitism. Carto was also the founder of a publishing company called Noontide Press, which published a number of books on white racialism, including Yockey’s Imperium and David Hoggan’s The Myth of the Six Million, one of the first books to deny the Holocaust."
Also, The Barnes Review in their last convention had guest speakers like Theo Junker, former member of the Wiking SS, a guy who built a memorial on his Wisconsin farm honoring Adolf Hitler (see: Time Magazine).
Other guest speakers at the event included political writer Michael Collins Piper, a Holocaust denier and a guy who blames MOSSAD for the JFK assassination, also claims the Israeli’s are working on an ethnic bomb that will kill only Arabs. He’s a devout friend of Willis Carto and Christopher Bollyn filled in for him from time to time on his radio talk show, The Piper Report on The Republic Broadcasting Network, which is owned and operated by John Stadmiller.
John Stadmiller also has his own radio show. It’s called The National Intel Report. The RBN(Republic Broadcasting Network) covers everything from UFO’s to demonic mind control. Their sponsors include The Knob Creek Gun Range and The Nationalist Times, which comes from The American Nationalists Union, a white supremacist organization.
Next we have Dr. Harrell Rhome of Eagle Publications, a devout right wing Christian Fundamentalist and a regular contributer to the Barnes Review. He also shares the spotlight with pro-Aparteid professor, Dr.Claus Nordbruch of South Africa.
Then there's Dave Von Kleist, producer of In Plane site which has already been proved a hoax.
Now most of these folks and several others I haven't got the time to mention, all blame Israel for the attacks of 9/11 (and everything else). They also attack several independent journalists like Goodman and John Foster(Chip) Berlet, Fisk and others, actually calling them co conspirators in the so called Bush/AIPAC coverup.
I owe an apology, not only to Robert Fisk, but to everyone out there who is genuinely seeking the truth concerning 9/11. These include the many real and dedicated individuals and groups who surround it, like the 9/11 widows who pushed so hard to get Bush to present an investigation and people like the great historian Howard Zinn and Col. Karen Kwiatkowski (ret.) who showed us how Cheney doctored intelligence to war on Iraq. My hat goes off to them and those like them. What I'm presenting here has absolutely nothing to do with the fine work they do. But it is definitely something we all need to be aware of, that right wing extremists are playing a role within the role of the 9/11 for truth movement and it is very doubtful their intent is in seeking the truth about anything.
I'm a concerned, middle aged blogger and member of the ACLU. I hail from the Bay Area. I Lobbied congress with the ACLU over the more unconstitutional elements of the USA Patriot Act. Marched in peace protests, lost a former school chum in the world trade center on 9/11.
Saturday, September 22, 2007 OK: Secret Rogue Faction that Runs the Bush Administration Note: Please read this previous post first: "Webster G. Tarpley’s Toxic Waste is Polluting the Antiwar Movement" and then this post will make more sense. I am an opponent of conspiracy theories in general and this one about the Bush Administraion in particular. This was meant as a clarification of wording in my previous post, not an endorement of a conspiracy theory. -cb
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In my recent post on Webster Tarpley I wrote that:
“In 2005 Tarpley published a book that alleged the Bush Administration staged the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA.”
Critics have suggested this meant I had not actually read Tarpley’s book. I have read the book. In it Tarpley contends that the Bush Administration is controlled by a secret invisible government, and that 9/11 was part of a plan to put pressure on George W. Bush as President to ensure that he continued to follow the foreign policy and economic game plan provided to him by the oligarchic faction known as the neoconservatives. Tarpley goes out is his way to make it clear that he thinks Bush himself is incapable of being part of the staged “Synthetic Terror” event the rest of us call the terrorist attacks on 9/11.
So I specifically did not suggest Bush was behind staging the attacks, I said the Bush Administration. As Tarpley himself points out, if 9/11 was a staged event, it would have been impossible to have been carried out without the complicity of high-ranking government agency and Administration officials, or as he calls it: the “rogue networks of the US invisible government” (p. 432). Specifically, Tarpley writes that the sponsors of 9/11 “were not located in a cave in Afghanistan, but were rather a network located high within the US government and military”(p. 280).
According to Tarpley, in 2004, “with the desperados of the neocon faction calling the shots” the “rogues were once again inclined to” stage another terrorist attack on US soil (p. 397). Tarpley also indicates that he thinks the necons are part of the invisible government apparatus, and that this includes “Wolfowitz, Feith, Bolton, Luti, Schulsky, Scooter Libby, Cambone, Hadley and others who run the Bush administration.” If the neocons run the Bush Administration, and the neocons are part of the secret plot, then the Bush Administration staged the attacks, even if every person in the Administration was not part of the plot. I find all these claims ludicrous, but I can see there is room for misinterpretation due to my shorthand description.
In the future I will make sure I state that Tarpley has written that a secret invisible government which runs the Bush Administration through the neocon-Straussian oligarchic network staged the 9/11 attacks; or at least use the phrase ‘a secret rogue faction that runs the Bush Administration,’ which is what I will insert in the text. My apologies to Mr. Tarpley if he was offended by my summary of his claims about the alleged conspiracy.
Monday, September 17, 2007 Webster G. Tarpley’s Toxic Waste is Polluting the Antiwar Movement There is no question that author Webster Griffin Tarpley has become a divisive and destructive force within the U.S. antiwar movement. The real question is why antiwar activists would pay him any attention in the first place. Activists are in an uproar over an incident at a peace encampment in Keenebunkport, Maine where Tarpley is implicated in a stunt where well-known peace activists such as Jamilla El-Shafei, Cindy Sheehan, Dahlia Wasfi, and Ann Wright were tricked into signing a document they thought was merely a call for the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney. The fine print in the document echoes Tarpley’s claim that Cheney is plotting a pre-election coup using a domestic terrorist attack as an excuse.
Tarpley is a former acolyte of crackpot and convicted felon Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. You remember LaRouche. He is generally described as a perennial Presidential candidate who once said the Queen of England ran the global drug trade. Tarpley may have left the LaRouche group, but it has not left him. Tarpley acts as a sockpuppet for LaRouche, spreading delirious venom throughout the antiwar movement. The LaRouche group has a long history of conning people into signing statements based on misleading descriptions of the actual text. Déjà vu.
With so much factual evidence of wrongdoing, incompetence, malfeasance, and just plain lying on the part of the Bush Administration, there is no reason to spread Tarpley’s gossip. The dramatic erosion of civil liberties in the United States is bad enough without embracing the delusional warnings by Tarpley that “neocons always prefer a coup d'etat to an election.”{1}
The current tempest traces back to July 4 th, 2007 when Philadelphia peace activists held an Emergency Antiwar Convention. It was an attempt to merge the movement against the war in Iraq with the “9/11 Truth” movement. The event featured 9/11 conspiracy films, as well as presentations from Tarpley and another former LaRouchite activist, Lewis DuPont Smith. Attendees issued a Call “In the spirit of our Declaration of Independence” urging others to join activist organizations throughout the country to collaborate and forge common strategies and actions.”{2} The statement included the phrase: “ Government by the People, not by cliques of bankers and financiers,” which could have been copied from a number of Nazi publications from the 1930s which identified the culprits as Jews.
Tarpley has introduced similar statements at other meetings, including one in Chicago.{3} A few weeks later, with his star rising in the antiwar movement, Tarpley posted a long article on the Jeff Rense website warning: "Cheney Determined To Strike In US With WMD This Summer, Only Impeachment, Removal or General Strike Can Stop Him."{4}
According to Tarpley, antiwar activists needed to quickly confront “the Cheney doctrine, which calls for a new super 9/11 with weapons of mass destruction in the US, to be used as the pretext for a nuclear attack on Iran and for martial law at home.”{5}
This is not the first time Tarpley has predicted an apocalyptic political event. In 2004, he posted a warning: "Bush Regime working out Procedures for postponing November Election."{6} The election, needless to say, actually took place as scheduled, although there were legitimate complaints about vote suppression to benefit Republican candidates.
Tarpley is co-author (with LaRouche researcher Anton Chaitkin){7}, of the book George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography, originally published by the LaRouche publishing house.{8} Progressive author and blogger David Neiwert reviewed the book, noting that “Like most LaRouche texts:”
...the Bush "biography" is a mélange of fact and distortion, written in a highly suppositional style that makes numerous leaps of logic and asserts connections where there is no real evidence to support it, at other times omitting exculpatory or contrary information that reveals a more complete picture. Sifting through it requires a great deal of work, but there are nuggets of fact woven into their text that are substantiated and which deserve proper consideration.{9}
In 2005 Tarpley published a book that alleged the Bush Administration staged the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA.{10} [Note: specifically a secret rogue faction that runs the Bush Administration - see blog post that follows] LaRouche takes a similar position. According to LaRouche the attacks on 9/11 should be:
”recognized, sooner or later, as the product of a witting "inside job." Finally, my detailed knowledge of the onrushing strategic crisis within which those attacks were situated, allowed no other conclusion, than that this was an attempted military coup d'état with a global strategic purpose of the most ominous implications imaginable.”{11}
While continuing to follow the polluted path blazed by notorious crackpot and homophobic antisemite Lyndon LaRouche, Tarpley is a regular contributor and featured poster on the Jeff Rense website. If we can set aside the UFO mania found on Rense.com, there is still the promotion of Holocaust denial and antisemitic conspiracy theories.
At some point leaders of the antiwar movement need to have a discussion about the larger issue of conspiracism. Right now, however, it is clear that some progressives have been snared by Tarpley’s mesmerizing presentations. This could undermine the credibility of the antiwar movement, alienate its existing base, and jeopardize its relationship with existing allies. This should be obvious no matter what your individual position is on the unanswered questions surrounding 9/11. The antiwar movement needs to welcome individuals from a broad range of political beliefs who share the goal of ending the war in Iraq. However this open door policy should not include allowing charlatans and hucksters to disrupt the movement. It is time to slam the door in the face of Webster G. Tarpley and his ilk.
{1} Webster G. Tarpley, “Cheney Determined To Strike In US With WMD This Summer: Only Impeachment, Removal or General Strike Can Stop Him,” 7-21-7, http://www.rense.com/general77/chens.htm.
{3} “9/11 Truth -- The Key To Stopping World War III, Resolution Submitted To The 911 Chicago Truth Conference, June 2-4, 2006. This resolution was presented to the final plenary meeting of the conference by Webster G. Tarpley and acclaimed by voice vote. Tarpley is the author of the book, 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA.”
{6} As of September 11, 2007, the Tarpley article is still on Michel Chossudovsky's Global Research website: Webster Griffin Tarpley, “Bush Regime working out Procedures for postponing November Election, posted July 10, 2004, http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/TAR407B.html.
{10} Tarpley’s book is published by Progressive Press, http://www.waronfreedom.org, which also publishes a book by Eric Hufschmid, Painful Questions . Hufschmid is described as one of the researchers "who openly mix 9/11 skepticism with Holocaust denial or revisionism," see "Holocaust Denial Versus 9/11 Truth," http://911review.com/denial/holocaust.html.
Jay I wanted to thank you again for your intuitive commentary. I enjoyed your article immensely. My article now posts in it's entirety. I'm not sure how much of it you'd read the lst time(technical difficulties) . My comments went far beyond Tarpley and LaRouche who are basically just a tip of the iceberg.
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Michael Shaw (7 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 328 comments)
on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 10:53:19 AM
I appreciate the info too. Hans has already corrected the situation. The stuff you have provided will no doubt be of great help on future posts. Thanks again!
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Michael Shaw (7 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 328 comments)
on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 11:19:46 AM
Let's hope Michael Shaw is sincere but ignorant about 911. Critics with intellectual and moral integrity usually proceed by examining the best evidence for a position, not the worst, and by addressing the most responsible advocates for a position, not the worst. Shaw has done just the opposite, much to his discredit. Readers who want the best 911 sites may start with
The solid 911 researchers who immediately come to mind are Michael Ruppert, Crossing the Rubicon; Jim Hoffman, Kevin Ryan, David Ray Griffin (except for his tragic embrace of no-plane hit the Pentagon); Nafeez Mossadeq Ahmed; Steven Jones, and to a lesser extent (because his scope is limited), Paul Thompson. If you google them with respect to 911, you will learn a lot and will avoid the 911 nutcases sent to smear the movement, and in some cases naturally attracted to the movement but unable to think clearly about it.
Regard,
Michael Green
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Michael Green (7 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 8 comments)
on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 12:38:13 PM
Well Mr. Green I take note that you didn't even bother to acknowledge there was a negative side, of which there certainly is. But rather than trying to refute the content of my article, you decided instead to advertise me as uninformed and discredited. Well I suppose that's better than calling me an agent of the MOSSAD!? Regardless, I do appreciate your commentary.
My article is aimed only at this negative side, not the many credible people behind the movement. I feel it is important in that we question certain elements and sources to ascertain if their intentions are to promote truth or suppress it? This is precisely how David Corn feels about people like Michael Ruppert and conspiracy theories in general.
"In fact, out-there conspiracy theorizing serves the interests of the powers-that-be by making their real transgressions seem tame in comparison."
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Michael Shaw (7 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 328 comments)
on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 1:49:31 PM
**Steven Jones promotes molten metal, but the lack of steam explosions at Ground Zero prove the molten metal to be nothing but a hoax. In addition, Jones' molten metal "evidence" has been shown to be fabricated. See here for a step-by-step analysis.
**Kevin Ryan promotes Steven Jones, who promotes the molten metal hoax.
**David Ray Griffin is for a Global Government (aka One World Government aka New World Order). Griffin says this himself in this video from a presentation he gave in Ohio.
The above people have been planted to control the "truth movement".
Lenin, the first Communist dictator after the takeover of Russia in 1917, is widely credited with the following quotation, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
Those interested in a new 9/11 investigation should support those who are actually pursuing one.Dr Judy Wood and Dr Morgan Reynolds, with their attorney Jerry Leaphart, have filed actual Court Cases in the US District Court, Southern New York. These Court Cases have been unsealed and Jerry Leaphart is now notifying the Defendants.
See Dr Judy Wood's site for the Court Document and admissible evidence that Directed Energy Weapons were a causal factor in the destruction of the World Trade Center.
In an interview with Kevin Barrett, trial attorney Jerry Leaphart has said:
"What I can tell you and the listeners, Kevin, is this. There is more admissible evidence associated with the theory that the World Trade Center was destroyed by directed energy weapons than there is admissible evidence for any single other theory out there that has been promulgated."
See here and learn that NIST contracted with manufacturers of directed energy weapons for the NIST Report.
See Dr Morgan Reynolds site for the Court Document and admissible evidence that the corporate media broadcasted a cartoon of an airplane hitting the South Tower.
Even Peter Jennings at ABC News knew the video was fake. Note his nervousness and word fumbling when they play it back in slow motion in this news video clip.
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CB Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 417 comments)
on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 2:26:45 AM
There is overwhelming evidence that molten metal was found beneath all three WTC buildings, weeks after 9/11. To claim that because someone with ties to the govt. made this observation it is therefore false is a fallacious argument. Even liars must sometimes state the truth when they know that denying it will expose their bigger lies. Just so, the NIST and the FEMA reports contain truthful statements, even though the government's agenda has always been to cover up the real truth of what happened on 9/11. But even FEMA acknowledged having found melted steel at the site, and suggested this should be followed up in further investigations. NIST chose to just ignore the fact. Judy Wood is a very questionable character promoting unproven and discredited theories about what caused the WTC collapses. She is in stark contrast to Steven Jones, who adduces much evidence to support the thesis that the towers were destroyed in controlled demolitions. Judy Wood is an agent provocateur sent to destroy the 9/11 Truth movement. Those who support her are the same, or dupes of such agents.
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Jeff Smith (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 13 comments)
on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 10:43:06 AM
You said:To claim that because someone with ties to the govt. made this observation it is therefore false is a fallacious argument.
Why do you say that?
It has been shown that Steven Jones' molten metal evidence is fabricated. Why would he need to make up evidence?
Jones said the molten metal was "running and in pools". Where was it running? Uphill in the day and down at night? Where did this molten metal accumulate?
And on top of all that, where were all the steam explosions? Where are the reports of FDNY personnel being burnt from splattering molten metal after spraying water? Where's the reports of steam explosions the week after 9/11 when it rained?
The molten metal story is a fairytale (just like the OGCT) put out to fool and distract people.
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CB Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 417 comments)
on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 2:15:06 PM
Why attack the truth movement instead of the people who perpetrated 911. It is a problem that you think creating distrust in the movement is paramount. Stop it please.
Another method of the Council is to get people from within to destroy the other. You are guilty. Stop it now. Let's not let them get away with this again. THAT is our mission, not discrediting seekers.
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BreezyinVA (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 16 comments)
on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 11:23:04 PM
Sorry, but linking to an article does not prove your point. You need to explain it yourself, which you obviously cannot, since you are wrong.
September Clues does not address the physical impossibility of an aluminum airplane with a plastic nosecone gliding through steel girders and concrete slabs.
Airplanes did not crash into the Twin Towers.
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CB Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 417 comments)
on Friday, November 2, 2007 at 5:51:10 PM
Breezy with all due respect, my intentions are not to attack the entire truth movement, only elements who have infiltrated it and who have agendas beyond any search for truth. How is exposing extreme right wing elements who promote hatred hurting the movement, that is unless of course the movement sees nothing wrong with these elements?
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Michael Shaw (7 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 328 comments)
on Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 12:16:56 PM
Good points, Michael Green. Shaw's piece reads like an extended ad hominem against the 9/11 truth movement. We can definitely find grounds to criticize people like Tarpley, from within the movement. But when it comes from people who support the government's Big Lie, it's intolerable, just another hit piece really.
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Jeff Smith (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 13 comments)
on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 10:29:42 AM
This is all ad hominem - a characteristic of those who do not want to debate the real issues. the old guilt by association and deflection trick and, gee, maybe Larouche/tarpley, et.al. actually had one or two good ideas. stick with 9-11 issues and debate them.
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Kent Welton (53 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 38 comments)
on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 1:32:10 PM
Kent, I appreciate your comments. Like you I believe we must learn and debate all we can about the events of 9/11 in all of its aspects, whether this means discussing those who are allegedly covering up these events, or those who claim to be exposing them. There are untested grounds in either scenario and until we investigate every angle, how will we ever make it possible to ascertain the undeniable truth?
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Michael Shaw (7 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 328 comments)
on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 2:32:34 PM
Although I have watched LaRouche for years with amusement and couldn't agree more with the author, I too worry that all of his arguments are made against the man and his associates rather than his arguments. This is the standard ploy of Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly, but should be beneath those of us that can actually reason. Even agents provocateur can occasionally, accidentally, be right.
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W.M.L. (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 323 comments)
on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 2:47:10 PM
