Broadcast 7/18/2013 at 10:53 PM EDT (63 Listens, 89 Downloads, 1025 Itunes)
The Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show Podcast
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eponaquest.com
Please start off with a story-- about the Fulani and the lesson of the Fulani-- (an African pastoral tribe)
Fulani right of passage. sharo
How does t his effect relationships-- combination of power and connection.
Can you give an overview of the book and more details.
Can you relate in humans, the difference between dominants and leaders.
Dominant sounds like Top down and like Naomi Klein described in Shock Doctrine.
Leader attracted to Novelty--
confidence, curiosity and calmness--
predatory power and other kinds of power.
Though herbivores, not predators, they are still non-predatory power animals
Fight to the death is strong in predatory power.
Where do you see predatory power situations-- corporations, government, families?
predators, in nature, will eat their own children...
Sarah Palin-- as Mama Grizzly-- has to protect her own children from their own father, who will eat them.
Eating our own children
youtube Battle at Kruger
Darwin's survival of the fittest--
Peter Kropotkin - Wikipedia wrote about mutual aid.
What does survival of the fittest mean to you?
cave paintings
domestication of horses
Made for Each Other: The Biology of the Human-Animal Bond ..
Oxytocin?
12 power of the herd guiding principles.
Oxytocin
The Oxytocin Factor: Tapping The Hormone Of Calm by Dr. Kerstin Uvnà ¤s-Moberg
predatory power and culling the herd
Bullies and sociopaths in power
Lauren Lobe works with sociopaths
contagious emotions...
It sounds to me that even the most predatory animals have more connection and emotional experience than psychopaths and sociopaths.
From I've heard there are no effective treatments for psychopaths and sociopaths.
Low sensitive, high IQ, low EQ
In humans, what separates humans with sociopaths and horses?
Fascinating that there's no such thing as sociopath among horses.
Horse Goddess epona-- archetypal aspects?
non-predatory power
Not just a lack of empathy that causes conflicts
We need empathy, compassion, emotional heroism--
a form of power that effects change.
Twelve guiding principles of horse sense--
Fascinating writing on how famous people by developing relationships with horses learned how to lead-- Washington, Churchill, Buddha...
What are the most important lessons people can learn from the herd?
What are the archetypes associated with epona, the horse goddess?
eponaquest.com
gaining the trust of an angry stallion as theme throughout history.
ancient archetype-- Alexander the great, Buddha, Washington--
black stallion movie--
article in August issue of Parabola Magazine--
Her horse, Midnight merlin, demanded that she become powerful in order to work with him.
Can you talk about the kind of power you had to learn with your horse?
Would Merlin be like a sociopath among horses?
What would you advise activists from this learning experience you've had.
Shame as a stone-age power-tool" used by people who do not know how to use power.
Now that horses are no longer obliged to work in our fields and carry us to war, they're doing something more important: They're working on us, helping us reclaim, daily, a hint of paradise not so much lost as misplaced. In rekindling our relationship with horses as guides--as catalysts of human transformation going back at least 30,000 years--we can't help but realize that even when we wander off the main trail and get lost in the woods, we're never alone in this world.
Dalai Lama has advised that people practice warmheartedness. Can you relate to what you've learned from horses about this.
Talk about connection and power"
dependent co-arising--
Thich nat Han-- interbeing. interconnected
HOw do you enhance connection, optimize connection?
get rid of your own deception?
The power behind non-violence
You said that horses have consciousness of collective power of the herd-- as member of a larger collective mind.
how do horse anatomical functions affect their mentality?
340 degree panoramic view.
because they have hooves on the ground".
better hearing, better sense of smell".
different spectrum of color
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